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#1 GMiranda

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Posted Yesterday, 16:15

Hello

 

May I ask if somebody has a reasonably accurate timeline of ATS Team Managers, please?

I was looking at the team's troubles history, and, if it's reasonably easy to find the car designers and some lead engineers. However, finding the team managers for each of the (short) stints they spent with the team is more complex to determine without sources such as Autocourse.

Among the names I found are:

- Jo Ramirez

- Vic Elford

- Peter Collins

- Fred Opert

- Alistair Caldwell

- Roger Heavens



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#2 Rob Ryder

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Posted Yesterday, 17:05

This is what I have...  

 

Peter Reinhart 1978-1979
Fred Opert 1979-1979
Dieter Basche 1979-1979
Albert Strasser 1979-1979
Vic Elford 1979-1979
Jo Ramirez 1980-1981
Roger Heavens 1981-1981
Alistair Caldwell 1981-1982
Peter Collins (2) 1982-1982


#3 GMiranda

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Posted Yesterday, 17:11

 

This is what I have...  

 

Peter Reinhart 1978-1979
Fred Opert 1979-1979
Dieter Basche 1979-1979
Albert Strasser 1979-1979
Vic Elford 1979-1979
Jo Ramirez 1980-1981
Roger Heavens 1981-1981
Alistair Caldwell 1981-1982
Peter Collins (2) 1982-1982

 

Many Thanks!!!



#4 Nigel Beresford

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Posted Yesterday, 17:34

FWIW it’s Alastair Caldwell, not Alistair. Pedantic of me I suppose but now you know.

Thanks, Nigel

#5 ensign14

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Posted Yesterday, 18:14

Surprisingly high turnover of managers.  :smoking:



#6 opplock

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Posted Yesterday, 18:24

How on earth did some of those people get involved with Schmidt?

 

My brother and I travelled to 1982 Dutch GP on a Page & Moy coach trip. While waiting to reboard at Calais we got talking to two young girls travelling on the same coach one of whom was a fellow Kiwi. Her friend asked us what we thought of ATS. Our reply was very negative at which point she smirked and said "Her dad is the team manager". Rather embarrassing but we even then we wouldn't have imagined that a team manager's family would have to travel to a GP in such fashion. Someone collected them when we arrived in Amsterdam and we didn't see them again. 



#7 2F-001

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Posted Yesterday, 18:53

One might assume that Schmidt must have been capable of periodic bouts of convincingly smooth talking... but even so, five different team managers in one season ought to have raised some doubts in those who followed. I wonder how well he was paying...? 



#8 opplock

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Posted Yesterday, 22:44

 I wonder how well he was paying...? 

 

From memory we paid £80 each for the Page & Moy trip (excluding circuit admission). It included 3 nights at Grand Hotel Krasnapolsky on Dam Square in Amsterdam. To our surprise the official rate per night displayed in our room was more than that. Either Mr Caldwell had a very good relationship with P&M or Schmidt was paying 5/8 of Sweet FA.  



#9 Parkesi

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Posted Today, 10:37

As far as I remember ATS was not about money (or the lack of it) but the erratic owner Günter Schmid was hard to stomach - for professionals like Caldwell, Elford etc.

Alan Henry once described an episode (Zolder/19??) when Schmid personally destroyed a front wing which was already on the car because he didn`t agree with his technical experts.

Nuff said...