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Chinese GP 2025: Race Day!


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Poll: Chinese GP (71 member(s) have cast votes)

Who is going to win?

  1. Oscar (45 votes [63.38%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 63.38%

  2. Lando (8 votes [11.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.27%

  3. George (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Max (1 votes [1.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.41%

  5. Lewis (11 votes [15.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 15.49%

  6. Charles (3 votes [4.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.23%

  7. Yuki (2 votes [2.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.82%

  8. Isack (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. Kimi (1 votes [1.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.41%

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#751 RPM40

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:49

McLaren are dominant, Piastri had no incentive to push and despite that there was no one even remotely close.

 

They could have easily had back to back 1-2 results, but there is no one pushing them on pace.



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#752 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:49

Honestly a snooze fest near the end, fell asleep while watching. :p



#753 Clrnc

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:50

That's your assumption not a fact.

So why was Leclerc faster with a broken front wing?

#754 renzmann

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:50

The girlfriend, who doesn't care about sports and but is lovely: "In a way, isn't it great you know this early that Max won't win the WDC?"



#755 Heyli

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:50

A fan in the stands crying after that Piastri win. Maybe Marko wants to have a go at her?



#756 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:51

I totally expected Leclerc to give the position back to Hamilton

 

I expected the pit wall to instruct him to do that.



#757 Risil

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:51

Cool down room reaction videos!!

#758 f1kent83

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:51

Leclerc probably cooked his tyres more sitting in the dirty air of Hamilton and Russell more than anything. Out of the top placed drivers I'm sure he was in the dirty air more than anyone.

#759 Heyli

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:51

Perhaps Leclerc was just that much faster than Lewis today?

 

Or perhaps the damage wasn’t slowing the car by that much? How many newtons is a point of downforce to Ferrari today?

On ServusTV they were theorizing it actually maybe made the car faster. At the very least it didnt seem to harm him a lot.



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#760 SilverArrow31

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:51

The girlfriend, who doesn't care about sports and but is lovely: "In a way, isn't it great you know this early that Max won't win the WDC?"


Ohhh show her the first few races of 2010 and ask her about Vettel haha

#761 Risil

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:51

The girlfriend, who doesn't care about sports and but is lovely: "In a way, isn't it great you know this early that Max won't win the WDC?"


Now you can go out and enjoy each race. The pressure is all on McLaren (fans).

#762 OvDrone

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:52

Extremely happy for Piastri, love seeing it. Many more to come this year.

Sucks horribly for Hamilton though after yesterday's high. Such a bad feeling.

Average race for me, which is not bad at all. Nice to enjoy during a sleep Sunday. Ocon and Albon are great highlights today and Bearman as well with all the Ciao. Ciao y'all see you later for Homestead and Thermal  :wave:



#763 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:52

DOD Antonelli over Oscar??  :stoned:

 

Should have been Ocon.



#764 keeppari

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:52

Lando keeping up with Oscar on fading brakes makes me think that they should just back Lando in the WDC from early on.

#765 P123

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:52

Perhaps Leclerc was just that much faster than Lewis today?

 

Or perhaps the damage wasn’t slowing the car by that much? How many newtons is a point of downforce to Ferrari today?

 

Yeah, Lewis was struggling with tyres/ balance, which may have balanced out whatever deficit Leclerc was facing with that FW.  Not enough for Ferrari to want to change it anyway.  



#766 Spillage

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:53

Interesting weekend though. There are flashes of performance for Ferrari and Red Bull, but McLaren are quick in all conditions. That could be the story of the season.

#767 Button4life

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:53

Lando keeping up with Oscar on fading brakes makes me think that they should just back Lando in the WDC from early on.

This is a ridiculous opinion.

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:53

On ServusTV they were theorizing it actually maybe made the car faster. At the very least it didnt seem to harm him a lot.

That was my first thought. When you consider how the front wing regulations are written to limit performance to aid wake management and help cars follow in dirty air, there’s a very real possibility that it was faster with the damage.



#769 ANF

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:53

Oscar is thinking about the championship...

Even as a long-time Lando Norris fan I would love to see Piastri snatch the title this year.

Edited by ANF, 23 March 2025 - 08:57.


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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:53

Lando keeping up with Oscar on fading brakes makes me think that they should just back Lando in the WDC from early on.

 

I mean, Piastri wasn't pushing, he was clearly just driving to whatever required to win the race 



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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:54

I like the Australian anthem

#772 Clrnc

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:54

Thats if you look at the results only, he was 6 seconds behind before the first pitstops and he was 5 seconds behind before catching Leclerc (with a damaged Ferarri) in the last 15 laps. He was way off pace in the sprint race.

The race doesn't finish half distance. He was way faster on low fuel in the 2nd half of the race. Come on you surely knows this?

It's tiresome hearing the same few people constantly saying since last year that whenever Max wins, he wins in a slower car that is at best 4th or 5th fastest and he has no rights to win. It's all down to the driver.

Whenever he don't win, the car is even slower than VCARB and Haas and its all the car's fault. First half of the race we keep hearing that and how Max is such a poor thing driving a tractor. All of a sudden on low fuel he's the fastest man on track and the excuses become "oh Mclaren is managing, Russell is managing, Leclerc burned his tyres, Lewis is old and has no pace"

Get real. 99% of the people knows Max is a generational talent, he's the best out there. But the amount of byllshit from his fans is just ridiculous

Edited by Clrnc, 23 March 2025 - 08:55.


#773 Ruudbackus

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:54

I expected the pit wall to instruct him to do that.

Thats what I meant, he got position  to attack Russell, failed and due to the fact Verstappen passed him he could and should have given it back if you ask me



#774 Cliff

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:54

Leclerc was quicker with a broken FW. When Max cooks his tyres, it’s because the Red Bull is a tractor. When Leclerc does its a driver issue…


Well, he does cook his tires most of the time. Just look at his pole to race win conversion rate, its abysmal.

#775 Muppetmad

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:54

This race was far from a classic. In any case, nicely done by Piastri. Another very, very solid race from Russell. Verstappen got the maximum result. Ferrari a bit at sea, although Leclerc's damage limitation was very solid. The sister Red Bulls will be kicking themselves.



#776 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:54

I did not find the race boring, over takes, mixed strategies, cars falling almost apart last couple of laps, minions bringing it and delivering.



#777 Darnswim

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:55

Interesting weekend though. There are flashes of performance for Ferrari and Red Bull, but McLaren are quick in all conditions. That could be the story of the season.

And yet, the only consistent one there on the podium apart from the Mclaren's drives neither a Ferrari nor a RedBull.


Edited by Darnswim, 23 March 2025 - 08:55.


#778 Garagista

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:55

Well, he does cook his tires most of the time. Just look at his pole to race win conversion rate, its abysmal.


Just like he did last year in Monza? Right?

#779 F1Lurker

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:55

DOD should probably be a vote of the F1 media. It has lacked credibility for a long time now, and results like today just show how ridiculous the current process is.



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#780 Archaean

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:55

Lando keeping up with Oscar on fading brakes makes me think that they should just back Lando in the WDC from early on.

That is obvious, but McLaren never do the obvious.

#781 PrinceBira

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:56

Did you watch the race? Leclerc was quicker than Hamilton all race.


But do you know if he could have been even quicker than Hamilton with 20-30points more df?

#782 Darnswim

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:56

That is obvious, but McLaren never do the obvious.

Then we'd havve the outrage of Lando getting preferential treatment. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.



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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:56

Sure, 20-30 points of downforce loss has little effect…

20-30 points are about half a second. he was easily quicker than lewis. I doubt he is 7-8 tenths quicker than Lewis, so while maybe that's what the computer says I reckon it had no impact with the flexing effect, as others said maybe it even benefitted him in a bizarre way. It's not the first time a driver is quick with that kind of damage

Edited by Marklar, 23 March 2025 - 08:58.


#784 PayasYouRace

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:56

But do you know if he could have been even quicker than Hamilton with 20-30points more df?

Where are you getting the 20-30 points of df from?



#785 Dalton007

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:56

Oscar is thinking about the championship...

 

It would be funny if he wins it.

 

It's going to get unpleasant in the team later in the season  :clap:  expecting fireworks.



#786 RPM40

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:57

That is obvious, but McLaren never do the obvious.

 

Yes, McLaren should give priority to the driver who has been out qualified and out raced all weekend.

 

Just because Norris was making noise it doesn't mean that Piastri was under any real pressure, he may have had plenty in reserve.



#787 PayasYouRace

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:57

Oscar is thinking about the championship...

I’d imagine anyone in his position would be.



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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:58

Where are you getting the 20-30 points of df from?

I don't see where he lost much downforce either. He lost the endplate, which as far as I know doesn't provide downforce. 



#789 zeph

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:58

IDK, I stayed up to watch this race, and it was a little uneventful. I don’t want to say boring, but it wasn’t very interesting.

 

Commanding race from Piastri though. Norris did well to salvage second.

 

So odd how Hamilton had it dialed in just yesterday, only to do a step backwards when it really matters. At least now we know that the Ferrari is faster without the front wing end plate.  :confused:

 

Russell is a quiet killer. And that Mercedes looks better than I thought.



#790 Button4life

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:59

Where are you getting the 20-30 points of df from?

His engineer said that at the start of the race. If it indeed slowed Leclerc down, then that means Leclerc was 5-7 tenths faster than Hamilton. Which obviously isn’t the case.

#791 STRFerrari4Ever

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:59

Well, he does cook his tires most of the time. Just look at his pole to race win conversion rate, its abysmal.


You clearly don’t watch F1 properly, Charles has been one of the best at tyre management since 2022 consistently, how else did he manage to pull off a one stop win at Monza last year. Ferrari only became good consistently with tyre wear last season, today’s race he was in dirty air more than any of the front runners, Ferrari should’ve ushered him past Lewis earlier or just listened to his one stop suggestion and settled into that tyre saving mode earlier but these things happen.

#792 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:59

A week off now and then a triple header!

#793 zeph

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 08:59

Where are you getting the 20-30 points of df from?

 

That is what Leclerc’s race engineer told him over the radio.



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Posted 23 March 2025 - 09:00

Bernie Collins bringing Wacky Racers vibes with that suit

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 09:00

His engineer said that at the start of the race. If it indeed slowed Leclerc down, then that means Leclerc was 5-7 tenths faster than Hamilton. Which obviously isn’t the case.

Obviously Ferrari, isn't going to say, "the missing endplate is making the car faster".



#796 ANF

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 09:00

I’d imagine anyone in his position would be.

Yes, but not necessarily while the national anthem is playing!

#797 lewislorenzo

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 09:00

Yeah I've just been reminded that its Hamilton's first ever dry race distance. He may have just been slow...


He would have learned a lot for sure.

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 09:00

Where are you getting the 20-30 points of df from?


His engineer came on the radio to tell him when it happened and Lecler said he’ll manage when they suggested pitting to change the wing at the first stop.

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 09:01

Antonelli, a very promising young driver, was quite a bit slower than Russell. This must mean he’s dragging the car to podiums and Mercedes is slower than Ferrari and Red Bull.

Am I doing it right?

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#800 PrinceBira

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 09:01

Where are you getting the 20-30 points of df from?


Just basing it on what his engineer said to him during the race.