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#1 Makarias

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 18:53

New entries are always welcome!
Do note the difference between entering the game for the first time and making changes to your existing entry:
If you don't want to make any changes, you don't need to make any post here!
* New entries submit an entry with 100 shares as described below
* Existing players may only shift position for at most 20 of their shares each round, as described below.

Deadline for both edits and new entries is the start of first free practice.

Initial thread (including scoring rules)
China changes

Submitting an initial entry

The first time you play this game, you shall submit an entry where you place 100 shares among the drivers, fulfilling these conditions:
 
 * You may only hold 100 shares (or less, which doesn't help you) in total at a time.
 * You can not own fractions of a share, just integer shares.
 * You can place no more than 40 shares on any one driver.
 * You must own shares in at least three drivers.
 * You may not own shares in more than ten drivers.
 * You may edit your first entry as much as you like until the edit deadline (first free practice) for the coming race.

Note that there is no limit to the number of shares available for each driver.
Also note that your initial entry is the basis for the following rounds too! You'll be allowed to change no more than 20 shares before each race, so make sure your initial entry looks at least 80% respectable...

Entry Example A from 1975:
E Fittipaldi 37
Reutemann 22
Depailler 16
Peterson 12
Ickx 10
Donohue 3

Editing your entry after the first round it takes part in
 * After the first race your entry took part in, you may only change 20 of your shares at a time (for the next race).
 * You do not have to edit your entry at all! If you so wish, you can leave your entry as it is from race one and not make a single change throughout the season.  
 * If a driver is replaced -temporarily or permanently- during the season, the shares placed on him will automatically be transferred to the replacing driver. So you could say that the shares actually are attached to the car number.
 * You may edit your changes as much as you like until the edit deadline for the coming race.
 * Edit deadline for changes is the beginning of first free practice for each race.

Example B:
After the first race, the shareholder who submitted the entry in Example A from 1975 realizes that the Lotus is a dud, and submits an edit to her entry as follows:

Sell:
Peterson -10
Ickx -10

Buy:
Pace +10
Reutemann +5
Depailler +5

Her new "portfolio" will after the entry look like this:
E Fittipaldi 37
Reutemann 27
Depailler 21
Pace 10
Donohue 3
Peterson 2

The above change of shares can perhaps best be written like this:
E Fittipaldi 37
Reutemann 27 (+5)
Depailler 21 (+5)
Pace 10 (+10)
Donohue 3
Peterson 2 (-10)
Ickx 0 (-10)

Posting changes in this way may make it easier for you to keep track of what your portfolio looks like, if you look back into these change threads.
Just look at the initial thread, and it's a bit of a drag to backtrack some players' changes!

An edit doesn't have to look just like above, any way is fine as long as it's easy to understand which driver shares are to be sold and which to be bought.

NOTE: I won't automatically be posting updates on what each player's portfolio looks like, so remember to keep track of what you own!

*** Share distribution and value ***
DRIVER      DShares   Race Season    VPP Owners
Norris          336  17.86 428.67     56     16
Piastri         291  15.47 371.25     64     16
Verstappen      208  11.06 265.36     90     13
Russell         186   9.89 237.30    101     12
Leclerc         178   9.46 227.09    105     13
Hamilton        146   7.76 186.27    129     12
Antonelli       133   7.07 169.68    141     11
Tsunoda          78   4.15  99.51    241     11
Sainz            70   3.72  89.31    269      9
Albon            65   3.46  82.93    289      7
Lawson           56   2.98  71.44    336      7
Alonso           36   1.91  45.93    523      4
Gasly            35   1.86  44.65    538      5
Hadjar           24   1.28  30.62    785      5
Hülkenberg       21   1.12  26.79    897      3
Bearman          10   0.53  12.76   1884      2
Doohan           10   0.53  12.76   1884      2
Stroll           10   0.53  12.76   1884      2
Bortoleto         5   0.27   6.38   3769      4
Ocon              2   0.11   2.55   9424      1

The table above shows how the shares are distributed and the race points scores corresponding to these share distributions.
A driver's share provides above average return when the driver scores more points than the value listed for him in the "Race" column.

*** WDC points value for one share as a function of number of players ***
#   points/share
19  0.053158
20  0.050500
21  0 048095
With 19 players, if ten shares are moved to/from a driver his rating will rise/fall by about 0.53 points/race.

*** Return per share as a function of finishing position ***
DRIVER           Win      P2      P3      P4      P5      P6      P7      P8      P9     P10
Norris          1400    1008     840     672     560     448     336     224     112      56
Piastri         1600    1152     960     768     640     512     384     256     128      64
Verstappen      2250    1620    1350    1080     900     720     540     360     180      90
Russell         2525    1818    1515    1212    1010     808     606     404     202     101
Leclerc         2625    1890    1575    1260    1050     840     630     420     210     105
Hamilton        3225    2322    1935    1548    1290    1032     774     516     258     129
Antonelli       3525    2538    2115    1692    1410    1128     846     564     282     141
Tsunoda         6025    4338    3615    2892    2410    1928    1446     964     482     241
Sainz           6725    4842    4035    3228    2690    2152    1614    1076     538     269
Albon           7225    5202    4335    3468    2890    2312    1734    1156     578     289
Lawson          8400    6048    5040    4032    3360    2688    2016    1344     672     336
Alonso         13075    9414    7845    6276    5230    4184    3138    2092    1046     523
Gasly          13450    9684    8070    6456    5380    4304    3228    2152    1076     538
Hadjar         19625   14130   11775    9420    7850    6280    4710    3140    1570     785
Hülkenberg     22425   16146   13455   10764    8970    7176    5382    3588    1794     897
Bearman        47100   33912   28260   22608   18840   15072   11304    7536    3768    1884
Doohan         47100   33912   28260   22608   18840   15072   11304    7536    3768    1884
Stroll         47100   33912   28260   22608   18840   15072   11304    7536    3768    1884
Bortoleto      94225   67842   56535   45228   37690   30152   22614   15076    7538    3769
Ocon          235600  169632  141360  113088   94240   75392   56544   37696   18848    9424

The above table illustrates the return each share gives for each finishing position given the current share distribution.

*** VPP samples ***
Players                             Shares/driver
        5     10    20    30    40    50    60    70    80    90    100   200   300   400
19      3769  1884  942   628   471   376   314   269   235   209   188   94    62    47
20      3968  1984  992   661   496   396   330   283   248   220   198   99    66    49         
21      4166  2083  1041  694   520   416   347   297   260   231   208   104   69    52         
VPP as a function of number of players and number of shares placed on a driver.

*** Return per share season history ***
DRIVER          TOT    OZ   CHN   JPN   BAH   SAU   MIA   EMI   MON   ESP   CAN   AUT    GB   BEL   HUN   NED   ITA   AZE   SIN   USA   MEX   BRA    LV   QAT   ABU
Stroll        12984 12984                                                                                                                                          
Ocon          94240     0 94240                                                                                                                                    
Stroll        16752 12984  3768                                                                                                                                    
Hülkenberg    10710 10710     0                                                                                                                                    
Bearman        7536     0  7536                                                                                                                                    
Albon          5304  3570  1734                                                                                                                                    
Russell        3165  1650  1515                                                                                                                                    
Verstappen     2970  1890  1080                                                                                                                                    
Antonelli      2964  1836  1128                                                                                                                                    
Norris         2508  1500  1008                                                                                                                                    
Piastri        1740   140  1600                                                                                                                                    
Leclerc         348   348     0                                                                                                                                    
Sainz           269     0   269                                                                                                                                    
Hamilton         97    97     0                                                                                                                                    
Alonso            0     0     0                                                                                                                                    
Bortoleto         0     0     0                                                                                                                                    
Doohan            0     0     0                                                                                                                                    
Gasly             0     0     0                                                                                                                                    
Hadjar            0     0     0                                                                                                                                    
Lawson            0     0     0                                                                                                                                    
Tsunoda           0     0     0                                                                                                                                    

Scoring over 1000 points per share in a round means that the share did above average.


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#2 maxie

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Posted 24 March 2025 - 02:09

Norris 18
Piastri 16
Leclerc 16
Hamilton 14
Tsunoda 8
Alonso 6
Gasly 6
Ocon 6 (+6)
Stroll 4 (+4)
Bearman 2 (+2)
Hadjer 2
Lawson 2 (-10)
Bortoleto 0 (-2)


#3 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 24 March 2025 - 07:51

Gasly       0 (-10)
Verstappen 15
Hamilton   10 (-5)
Leclerc    15
Norris     20 (+5)
Piastri    20 (+5)
Antonelli  10 (+10)
Sainz       0 (-5)
Russell     5 (+5)
Tsunoda     5 (+5)

Edited by KWSN - DSM, 27 March 2025 - 10:04.


#4 Benchulo

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Posted 24 March 2025 - 16:34

Norris 23 (-4)
Russell 16
Antonelli 10
Albon 10
Alonso 10
Doohan 2 (-5)
Piastri 10

Ocon 7 (+7)
Verstappen 7 (+7)
Stroll 5 (+5)

Tsunoda 0 (-10)

Edited by Benchulo, 29 March 2025 - 04:44.


#5 Makarias

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Posted 25 March 2025 - 09:21

Quick pre-emptive reminder that a driver that replaces another in a car, he takes over the shares previously assigned to that car in the name of the previous driver.

So if Lawson and Tsunoda swap cars, 

-the current Lawson shares will pay dividends from Tsunoda scoring points in the Red Bull, 

-and likewise the current Tsunoda shares will pay dividends from Lawson scoring points in the Racing Bulls.

And if the driver swap becomes permanent the shares will swap names with each other because confusion is a beautiful thing.



#6 Benchulo

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Posted 26 March 2025 - 02:43

Quick pre-emptive reminder that a driver that replaces another in a car, he takes over the shares previously assigned to that car in the name of the previous driver.
So if Lawson and Tsunoda swap cars,
-the current Lawson shares will pay dividends from Tsunoda scoring points in the Red Bull,
-and likewise the current Tsunoda shares will pay dividends from Lawson scoring points in the Racing Bulls.
And if the driver swap becomes permanent the shares will swap names with each other because confusion is a beautiful thing.


So if Yuki scores points in the Red Bull in Suzuka, I need to have Lawson shares to get those dividends?

#7 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 27 March 2025 - 10:06

I am in.



#8 Makarias

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Posted 27 March 2025 - 10:54

So if Yuki scores points in the Red Bull in Suzuka, I need to have Lawson shares to get those dividends?

 

Yeah, shares that you haven't got right now. And then the shares should swap names I guess, because this change seems permanent.

 

For now, you all can help avoid confusion for yourselves as well as for me by calling the respective shares "Red Bull 2" (= Tsunoda at Suzuka) and "Racing Bulls 1" (Lawson at Suzuka (apologies to Hadjar)) .



#9 Anderis

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Posted 27 March 2025 - 10:57

For now, you all can help avoid confusion for yourselves as well as for me by calling the respective shares "Red Bull 2" (= Tsunoda at Suzuka) and "Racing Bulls 1" (Lawson at Suzuka (apologies to Hadjar)) .

Like if "Red Bull" and "Racing Bulls" was not another point of potential confusion. :lol: 

 

Racing Bulls is the worst F1 team name ever, solely because of this. :p
 



#10 Makarias

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Posted 27 March 2025 - 10:59

I know! And I don't even like the beverage.



#11 LolaB0860

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Posted 27 March 2025 - 16:56

Norris 25
Piastri 23 (+10)
Russell 18 (+3)
Leclerc 11 (-9)
Hamilton 10
Antonelli 5 (+5)
Sainz 5
Bortoleto 3 (+2)
 
Red Bull #2 0 (-7)
Racing Bulls #1 0 (-3)
Hulkenberg 0 (-1)


#12 wheadon1985

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Posted 27 March 2025 - 20:08

Andrea Kimi Antonelli 10 (-5)
Liam Lawson 10
Lando Norris 15 (+5)
George Russell 15 (+5)
Oscar Piastri 10
Max Verstappen 10
Lewis Hamilton 10
Alexander Albon 5
Carlos Sainz Jr. 5
Oliver Bearman 10 (+10)

Nico Hülkenberg 0 (-15)

Edited by wheadon1985, 01 April 2025 - 21:25.


#13 BerniesDad

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Posted 01 April 2025 - 10:38

Verstappen 15

Piastri 15

Russell 15

Leclerc 15

Hamilton 10

Stroll 5

Hulk 5

Antonelli 0 (-10)

Lawson 0 (-5)

Bearman 0 (-5)

 

Sainz 10 (+10)

Albon 5 (+5)

Tsunoda 5 (+5)



#14 brunopascal

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Posted 01 April 2025 - 14:57

Norris 18 (-2)

Piastri 15

Verstappen 15 

Russell 15

Leclerc 10

Hamilton 10

Albon 10

Red Bull 2 (Tsunoda at Suzuka) 7 (+7)

 

Tsunoda (Racing Bulls 1 = Lawson at Suzuka) 0 (-5)



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Posted 01 April 2025 - 17:06

Verstappen 20  

Norris  20

Piastri 15

Leclerc 12 (-3)

Russell 10

Red Bull 02 Tsunoda 7 (+5)

Hamilton 6 (+6)

Gasly 5 (+1)

Hulkenberg 4 (+4)

Bortoleto 1

 

Racing Bull 01 Lawson 0 (- 8)

Sainz 0 (-5)


Edited by scheivlak, Yesterday, 17:57.


#16 Makarias

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Posted 01 April 2025 - 21:08

 

Norris 18
Piastri 16
Leclerc 16
Hamilton 14
Tsunoda 8
Alonso 6
Gasly 6
Ocon 6 (+6)
Stroll 4 (+4)
Bearman 2 (+2)
Hadjer 2
Lawson 2 (-10)
Bortoleto 0 (-2)

 

 

These changes are not accepted! You can't own shares in more than ten drivers!



#17 Makarias

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Posted 01 April 2025 - 21:09

Andrea Kimi Antonelli 10 (-5)
Liam Lawson 10
Lando Norris 10
George Russell 10
Oscar Piastri 10
Max Verstappen 10
Lewis Hamilton 10
Nico Hülkenberg 10 (-5)
Alexander Albon 5
Carlos Sainz Jr. 5

Oliver Bearman 10 (+10)

 

These changes are not accepted! You can't own shares in more than ten drivers!
 



#18 Makarias

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Posted 01 April 2025 - 21:11

Verstappen 15

Piastri 15

Russell 15

Leclerc 15

Hamilton 10

Stroll 5

Hulk 5

Antonelli 0 (-10)

Lawson 0 (-5)

Bearman 0 (-5)

 

Sainz 10 (+10)

Albon 5 (+5)

Tsunoda 5 (+5)

 

Please clarify the very last addition: is it Tsunoda driving the Red Bull or the Racing Bulls car formerly driven by Tsunoda, now Lawson?
 



#19 Makarias

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Posted 01 April 2025 - 21:38

Verstappen 21 (-7)

Piastri 19 (+4)

Leclerc 14 (-3)

Norris 12 (+4)

Russell 12 (+12)

Hamilton 11 (-3)

Antonelli 6 (-2)

Doohan 2 (-1)

Ocon 2

Hadjar 1

 

Racing Bulls 1 0 (-4)



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#20 Makarias

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Posted 01 April 2025 - 21:48

The numbers below are based on the assumption that BerniesDad added five shares to the Red Bull 2 car.

BerniesDad now has a Hülkenberg monopoly:

DRIVER      DShares   Race Season    VPP Owners
Norris          344  18.29 438.87     54     16
Piastri         310  16.48 395.49     60     16
Russell         211  11.22 269.19     89     14
Verstappen      208  11.06 265.36     90     14
Leclerc         163   8.66 207.95    115     13
Hamilton        144   7.65 183.71    130     13
Antonelli       121   6.43 154.37    155     11
Sainz            74   3.93  94.41    254      9
Albon            70   3.72  89.31    269      8
Red Bull 2       61   3.24  77.82    308      7
Racing Bulls 1   53   2.82  67.62    355      7
Alonso           36   1.91  45.93    523      4
Gasly            26   1.38  33.17    724      4
Hadjar           24   1.28  30.62    785      5
Bearman          15   0.80  19.14   1256      2
Stroll           15   0.80  19.14   1256      3
Ocon              9   0.48  11.48   2094      2
Bortoleto         7   0.37   8.93   2692      4
Hülkenberg        5   0.27   6.38   3769      1
Doohan            4   0.21   5.10   4712      2

DRIVER           Win      P2      P3      P4      P5      P6      P7      P8      P9     P10
Norris          1350     972     810     648     540     432     324     216     108      54
Piastri         1500    1080     900     720     600     480     360     240     120      60
Russell         2225    1602    1335    1068     890     712     534     356     178      89
Verstappen      2250    1620    1350    1080     900     720     540     360     180      90
Leclerc         2875    2070    1725    1380    1150     920     690     460     230     115
Hamilton        3250    2340    1950    1560    1300    1040     780     520     260     130
Antonelli       3875    2790    2325    1860    1550    1240     930     620     310     155
Sainz           6350    4572    3810    3048    2540    2032    1524    1016     508     254
Albon           6725    4842    4035    3228    2690    2152    1614    1076     538     269
Red Bull 2      7700    5544    4620    3696    3080    2464    1848    1232     616     308
Racing Bulls 1  8875    6390    5325    4260    3550    2840    2130    1420     710     355
Alonso         13075    9414    7845    6276    5230    4184    3138    2092    1046     523
Gasly          18100   13032   10860    8688    7240    5792    4344    2896    1448     724
Hadjar         19625   14130   11775    9420    7850    6280    4710    3140    1570     785
Bearman        31400   22608   18840   15072   12560   10048    7536    5024    2512    1256
Stroll         31400   22608   18840   15072   12560   10048    7536    5024    2512    1256
Ocon           52350   37692   31410   25128   20940   16752   12564    8376    4188    2094
Bortoleto      67300   48456   40380   32304   26920   21536   16152   10768    5384    2692
Hülkenberg     94225   67842   56535   45228   37690   30152   22614   15076    7538    3769
Doohan        117800   84816   70680   56544   47120   37696   28272   18848    9424    4712

Players                             Shares/driver
        5     10    20    30    40    50    60    70    80    90    100   200   300   400   
19      3769  1884  942   628   471   376   314   269   235   209   188   94    62    47         
20      3968  1984  992   661   496   396   330   283   248   220   198   99    66    49         
21      4166  2083  1041  694   520   416   347   297   260   231   208   104   69    52         

Hopefully the driver situation is a bit clearer after this weekend. I'm expecting to have the shares swap names permanently if the drivers stay put so this stupid mess comes to an end.



#21 Makarias

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Posted 02 April 2025 - 20:52

BerniesDad has confirmed via PM that the five shares are at Red Bull, as assumed above.



#22 Nathan

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Posted 02 April 2025 - 21:51

Norris  - 20

Piastri - 20

Antonelli - 5

Russell - 10

LeClerc 10

Sainz - 5

Tsunoda - 5 

Albon - 5

Gasly - 5

Verstappen 20 +5

Ocon 5 +5

Alonso - 10 +10


Edited by Nathan, 02 April 2025 - 21:55.


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Posted Yesterday, 06:43

Norris 20
Antonelli 20
Verstappen 20
Hamilton 18
Albon 10
Tsunoda (ex-Lawson) 10
Bortoleto 1
Doohan 1 (+1)

Hadjar 0 (-1)

#24 mark f1

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Posted Yesterday, 06:46

Tsunoda -10

Albon +10



#25 GTA

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Posted Yesterday, 13:43

Russell 30

Sainz 20

Antonelli 10

Albon 15

 
Bearman 10(+5)
Gasly 5(-5)
Lawson 5(-5)
Ocon 5(+5)


#26 Makarias

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Posted Yesterday, 17:48

DRIVER      DShares   Race Season    VPP Owners
Norris          344  18.29 438.87     54     16
Piastri         310  16.48 395.49     60     16
Verstappen      213  11.32 271.74     88     14
Russell         201  10.68 256.43     93     13
Leclerc         163   8.66 207.95    115     13
Hamilton        144   7.65 183.71    130     13
Antonelli       116   6.17 147.99    162     10
Albon            80   4.25 102.06    235      9
Sainz            74   3.93  94.41    254      9
Lawson           61   3.24  77.82    308      7
Alonso           46   2.45  58.69    409      5
Tsunoda          33   1.75  42.10    571      5
Hadjar           23   1.22  29.34    819      4
Gasly            21   1.12  26.79    897      4
Bearman          20   1.06  25.52    942      2
Ocon             19   1.01  24.24    992      4
Stroll           15   0.80  19.14   1256      3
Bortoleto         7   0.37   8.93   2692      4
Doohan            5   0.27   6.38   3769      3
Hülkenberg        5   0.27   6.38   3769      1

DRIVER           Win      P2      P3      P4      P5      P6      P7      P8      P9     P10
Norris          1350     972     810     648     540     432     324     216     108      54
Piastri         1500    1080     900     720     600     480     360     240     120      60
Verstappen      2200    1584    1320    1056     880     704     528     352     176      88
Russell         2325    1674    1395    1116     930     744     558     372     186      93
Leclerc         2875    2070    1725    1380    1150     920     690     460     230     115
Hamilton        3250    2340    1950    1560    1300    1040     780     520     260     130
Antonelli       4050    2916    2430    1944    1620    1296     972     648     324     162
Albon           5875    4230    3525    2820    2350    1880    1410     940     470     235
Sainz           6350    4572    3810    3048    2540    2032    1524    1016     508     254
Lawson          7700    5544    4620    3696    3080    2464    1848    1232     616     308
Alonso         10225    7362    6135    4908    4090    3272    2454    1636     818     409
Tsunoda        14275   10278    8565    6852    5710    4568    3426    2284    1142     571
Hadjar         20475   14742   12285    9828    8190    6552    4914    3276    1638     819
Gasly          22425   16146   13455   10764    8970    7176    5382    3588    1794     897
Bearman        23550   16956   14130   11304    9420    7536    5652    3768    1884     942
Ocon           24800   17856   14880   11904    9920    7936    5952    3968    1984     992
Stroll         31400   22608   18840   15072   12560   10048    7536    5024    2512    1256
Bortoleto      67300   48456   40380   32304   26920   21536   16152   10768    5384    2692
Doohan         94225   67842   56535   45228   37690   30152   22614   15076    7538    3769
Hülkenberg     94225   67842   56535   45228   37690   30152   22614   15076    7538    3769

Players                             Shares/driver
        5     10    20    30    40    50    60    70    80    90    100   200   300   400   
19      3769  1884  942   628   471   376   314   269   235   209   188   94    62    47         
20      3968  1984  992   661   496   396   330   283   248   220   198   99    66    49         
21      4166  2083  1041  694   520   416   347   297   260   231   208   104   69    52         


#27 scheivlak

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Posted Yesterday, 17:57

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