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[pdac]

Well you’ve just suggested a point system that, more than the current one, will reward hanging back and not driving like hell.

And still, changing the point system has little to do with the success or failure of the current regulations. In fact the current points system has been in place for three technical regulation sets.

 

No I have not. If you think that, then you clearly don't understand what the motivations of teams and drivers are.

[PayasYouRace]

No I have not. If you think that, then you clearly don't understand what the motivations of teams and drivers are.

No, I think I’ve not understood your reasoning behind the suggestion.

[7MGTEsup]

2003 is an example of what happens when the rewards for position are linear a driver with 6 wins only just beat a driver with 1 win. The win should be prized above all else so it's worth taking a risk rather than sit back and collect.

[krea]

2003 is an example of what happens when the rewards for position are linear a driver with 6 wins only just beat a driver with 1 win. The win should be prized above all else so it's worth taking a risk rather than sit back and collect.

It was a strange year, when Schumacher didn’t win he was more often than not ‘nowhere’

[AlexPrime]

I consider them a success. Last year was super close from Miami onwards. This year we had three races and a spint and four different winners. So far, so good.

[vlado]

There was hope in the first few races in 2022

https://x.com/meghee...zg-bv2n8am2mMAg

[Boing Ball]

I consider them a success. Last year was super close from Miami onwards. This year we had three races and a spint and four different winners. So far, so good.

 

The regulations did not promise better competition - nor even more overtakes. The promise was "closer" racing. This could be measured: compare the average time between the winner and the last finisher for all races between 2017 to 2021 and then between 2022 to 2024.    

[Anderis]

There was hope in the first few races in 2022

https://x.com/meghee...zg-bv2n8am2mMAg

I still remember how well those cars could race for those few races. It was amazing.

 

I don't understand why F1 doesn't do everything in their power to polish that rule set and try to get us back to that point.

[Gravelngrass]

I think F1 stakeholders, including fans, must come to terms with the fact that nowadays F1 will become more boring the more technologically advanced it gets. As many have already said in this thread, technology optimizes everything, it’s basically one of its aims. And if most still want technology to be one of the fundamental pillars of F1, it will inevitably lead to machines driving the cars at some point. Even today, the role and difference a driver makes is diminishing every year. And if drivers still seem to play a somewhat important role today, as we have seen, the races are getting more boring anyway due to all the race planning and optimization computers are doing. So, not only because of a misplaced focus on technology, but also because the category insists on keeping an anachronistic road relevance, it’s doomed to become increasingly boring. The time has long been ripe to reformulate the series into something that exists for racing first and foremost, and the signs are everywhere. It’s just that the stakeholders either don’t see it, or refuse to start changing.

[Bleu]

It was a strange year, when Schumacher didn’t win he was more often than not ‘nowhere’

 

Kimi won Schumacher 10-8 in podiums.

[Sterzo]

The time has long been ripe to reformulate the series into something that exists for racing first and foremost, and the signs are everywhere. It’s just that the stakeholders either don’t see it, or refuse to start changing.

I would just add, to reinforce the point, that the quality of the circuits matters to most of us (as evidenced in this forum's comments). Technology increases cornering speeds, which results in circuits being modified, nearly always for the worse.

[Gravelngrass]

I would just add, to reinforce the point, that the quality of the circuits matters to most of us (as evidenced in this forum's comments). Technology increases cornering speeds, which results in circuits being modified, nearly always for the worse.

Absolutely, Suzuka, Spa, et. al. are more important to motorsport than this or that failed category rule…