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[FirstnameLastname]

Noticed the 24 edition didn’t even warrant a thread last year…

How’s the 25 game looking? Have they moved on much in the last 5 years? 2018 is probably the last one I played…

[messy]

Like another roster update dressed up as a new £60+ game.

[PayasYouRace]

I dipped into F1 2024 when it became available on Game Pass. It was just the same game again. 2021 was the last one I played properly. Did about four 10 race seasons before the novelty ran out. 2022 was virtually unplayable on controller. 2023 I bought but by then I was bored.

 

I think the time for an exclusive licence has passed. Let’s see what other developers can do.

[messy]

I just wish they’d do what they do with EA WRC - base game is the same for years, every season roster update as DLC. I think they do this with stuff like PGA too? I’m sure the licence ensures they can’t with this, though.

I don’t actually think the games are bad at all, they’re just samey.

[FirstnameLastname]

So had much changed since around 2018?

They kept evolving the handling… but it just meant some years it felt shite and then other years it felt better.

Is the damage model any better? Or still the restrictions on how damaged the cars can be?

Recently it looks like they have focused more on story modes and stuff. Wouldn’t be a selling point for me. My gaming days are over for now… but never say never. My dad in his 60s has gotten back into gaming big time and now has a full sim rig in his spare room! Quite the setup. He plays in a sim racing league for older gentlemen racers. They take it very seriously too

[PayasYouRace]

I wouldn't say the games are bad at all. They're good games. But it's basically the same every year. The on track experience is slightly improved, year on year. The front end gets a bit more influencer/lifestyle focussed every year, but that can mostly be ignored if all you're interested in is racing. It's just a lot to ask for an annual update.

One thing that would really improve the experience for me would be the ability to import a career mode save from a previous game and begin where you left off but in the new season. That way, rather than having a whole career in consisting of the same season over and over again, each time (with maybe some random driver swaps), you'd be able to play through a career from season to season.

 

I think it's a shame that the historical content peaked in 2013. That game had not only a healthy selection of classic cars from two decades, but each was driven by a historical driver, and you had a handful of historical circuits to race them on (and the ability to mix and match with the current day content). Since then, they briefly brought back some classic cars, but in odd gimmick game modes, and always with the same fictitious drivers year on year. Now that's all gone. But I probably got more out of the 2013 classic mode than the main game. What I really want to see is a ten year career mode that actually takes in 10 seasons (not the same season repeated 10 times as with the current games). If that was, say, 2016-2025 inclusive for this year's game, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. If it was something like 1984-1993, I'd pre-order.

 

I wonder if we're in a minority wanting this stuff, and actually people do want to play through F2 seasons instead.

[messy]

So had much changed since around 2018?
They kept evolving the handling… but it just meant some years it felt shite and then other years it felt better.
Is the damage model any better? Or still the restrictions on how damaged the cars can be?
Recently it looks like they have focused more on story modes and stuff. Wouldn’t be a selling point for me. My gaming days are over for now… but never say never. My dad in his 60s has gotten back into gaming big time and now has a full sim rig in his spare room! Quite the setup. He plays in a sim racing league for older gentlemen racers. They take it very seriously too

For me they improved quite a bit after F1 2018 - my favourite in the series is F1 2020, which plays beautifully, has F2 (2019 and 2020 seasons) and loads of historical content. I honestly think F1 2020 is an excellent game, problem is that if you play the most recent one straight after it, you’re hard pressed to find where it’s better. I think the real stagnation came after 2020, if you’re coming in from 2018 you’d probably be quite impresed with the more recent ones.

Edited by messy, 30 March 2025 - 09:12.

[MikeTekRacing]

F12022 was really bad in terms of handling model, the rest are good. 24 was a bit weird with the amount of steering lock you can get away with at corner entry - but overall it's a good simcade.

Annoyed by the lack of historic content and there needs to be some focus on bugs. Stuff like car differences on "equal cars", SC deployment bugs ... keep being a plague and are hard to accept. Other than good, good game

[MikeTekRacing]

Has anyone played recently and tried the unrealistic but widely used technique seen in F1 Esports?

They crank the wheel suddenly before the apex to slow down the car. It is VERY unrealistic and it does not resemble what would happen with such an extreme angle.

I have tried it and only managed to get it working very few times, but when it works the effect is huge

[messy]

F12022 was really bad in terms of handling model, the rest are good. 24 was a bit weird with the amount of steering lock you can get away with at corner entry - but overall it's a good simcade.
Annoyed by the lack of historic content and there needs to be some focus on bugs. Stuff like car differences on "equal cars", SC deployment bugs ... keep being a plague and are hard to accept. Other than good, good game

I don't think F1'22 was the best feeling F1 game ever, but as a controller player I thought it was fine and still had plenty of enjoyment from it. I actually found the lack of traction out of corners in F1'21 a bit more annoying.

[PhilArny80]

I wouldn't say the games are bad at all. They're good games. But it's basically the same every year. The on track experience is slightly improved, year on year. The front end gets a bit more influencer/lifestyle focussed every year, but that can mostly be ignored if all you're interested in is racing. It's just a lot to ask for an annual update.

One thing that would really improve the experience for me would be the ability to import a career mode save from a previous game and begin where you left off but in the new season. That way, rather than having a whole career in consisting of the same season over and over again, each time (with maybe some random driver swaps), you'd be able to play through a career from season to season.

 

I think it's a shame that the historical content peaked in 2013. That game had not only a healthy selection of classic cars from two decades, but each was driven by a historical driver, and you had a handful of historical circuits to race them on (and the ability to mix and match with the current day content). Since then, they briefly brought back some classic cars, but in odd gimmick game modes, and always with the same fictitious drivers year on year. Now that's all gone. But I probably got more out of the 2013 classic mode than the main game. What I really want to see is a ten year career mode that actually takes in 10 seasons (not the same season repeated 10 times as with the current games). If that was, say, 2016-2025 inclusive for this year's game, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. If it was something like 1984-1993, I'd pre-order.

 

I wonder if we're in a minority wanting this stuff, and actually people do want to play through F2 seasons instead.

 

I would definitely want something like that. I got NBA2K a couple of years ago and they had something similar, you could start in the 1980's with a team/franchise and play all the way through to current day. The rules changed as per real life, teams moved cities, new teams were added, logos and uniforms changed, even the TV graphics changed every now and again to match the different eras. You also got the chance to see how the draft would change so Lebron wouldn't go to Cleveland, Shaq to Orlando etc. I would have played it all day if I was still a kid.

 

An F1 version would be amazing although I guess harder to do. The tracks would need to change (eg Barcelona/Melbourne/Abu Dhabi have had different layouts), car characteristics would be different, rules updated, halo added etc. Licensing may be an issue although I guess Codemasters/EA would have that for the last 10 years. Like you say though, it would be more fun to see real life changes introduced over a 10 year period than having the same 10 teams in the same livery at the same 24 circuits every year. When I did play the F1 game, I would tend to only do 1 season.

Edited by PhilArny80, 25 April 2025 - 09:05.

[PayasYouRace]

An F1 version would be amazing although I guess harder to do. The tracks would need to change (eg Barcelona/Melbourne/Abu Dhabi have had different layouts), car characteristics would be different, rules updated, halo added etc. Licensing may be an issue although I guess Codemasters/EA would have that for the last 10 years. Like you say though, it would be more fun to see real life changes introduced over a 10 year period than having the same 10 teams in the same livery at the same 24 circuits every year. When I did play the F1 game, I would tend to only do 1 season.

Licensing would obviously be an issue and I do wonder how long each individual licence lasts. Like, could Codies release another game with an older licence or what is exclusive to that particular game.

Having the tracks and cars change would be part of the fun, and if their simulation engine is solid enough it should handle it without too many problems. If they have work arounds then they’d need workarounds for every rule set.

Part of my suggestion of 1994-1993 is that it covers a fairly stable era in terms of rules, both sporting and technical. Apart from capturing a golden age of the sport with 10 champions required during those years.

[MikeTekRacing]

I don't think F1'22 was the best feeling F1 game ever, but as a controller player I thought it was fine and still had plenty of enjoyment from it. I actually found the lack of traction out of corners in F1'21 a bit more annoying.

the model for F1-22 was so bad drivers (Norris said I think) is a joke of how hard it is compared to the real thing.

you could exit a hairpin in 7th gear and SPIN THE WHEELS and lose it

[NCB619]

Licensing would obviously be an issue and I do wonder how long each individual licence lasts. Like, could Codies release another game with an older licence or what is exclusive to that particular game.

Having the tracks and cars change would be part of the fun, and if their simulation engine is solid enough it should handle it without too many problems. If they have work arounds then they’d need workarounds for every rule set.

Part of my suggestion of 1994-1993 is that it covers a fairly stable era in terms of rules, both sporting and technical. Apart from capturing a golden age of the sport with 10 champions required during those years.

That's why I always have a soft spot for F1 Career Challenge on the PS2 / XBOX

1999-2002 all in one game, career carries over across all the years. Track updates from year to year within the game too (from memory, but they obviously did Hockenheim and Monza)
 

[PayasYouRace]

That's why I always have a soft spot for F1 Career Challenge on the PS2 / XBOX
1999-2002 all in one game, career carries over across all the years. Track updates from year to year within the game too (from memory, but they obviously did Hockenheim and Monza)

I remember that. Shame it handled so badly.

[messy]

I still have that game somewhere. In every single way it was brilliant apart from the fact it was almost unplayable. I don't think the engine audio ever actually matched what you were doing, either. This is where I appreciate modern day quality control/bug fixing.

[Myrvold]

I just wish they’d do what they do with EA WRC

 

Well. Rumours are... they will.

 

As in: This is the last one.