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[Zoony]

https://www.bbc.co.u...nd-getty-images

[Charlieman]

Warning: Contains annoying CSS/HTML scrolling gimmicks which distract from viewing pleasure and reduce accessibility.

[Myhinpaa]

Luckily it's possible to use "open image in new tab" to get away from the annoying layout, in most of the cases.

 

The photo of Jim Clark on the Triang toy tractor with Graham and Damon Hill is one of many classics there.

[SophieB]

I’m also a sucker for the well known one of Stirling Moss sitting in his car and drinking a cup of tea out of what looks like a china cup, complete with saucer. Standards!

[GTMRacer]

Some nice photos...

One thing, not a single mention of Cooper? A glaring error...

[Vitesse2]

Some nice photos...

One thing, not a single mention of Cooper? A glaring error...

A bit odd, admittedly, although there's a picture of Bruce McLaren in one ...

[kayemod]

They've clearly made an effort, but should have taken more care with the captions. I've only had time for a quick look at some of the older stuff, but one caption shows JYS at the 68 German GP in his winning Matra, but a photo alongside allegedly shows him during the same race, but this time he's driving a Lotus, I wonder if ACBC had reported the car stolen. There are several other errors elsewhere, Mario Andretti captioned as Emerson etc, and this should prove a fruitful thread for us TNF nitpickers.

 

One photo that caught my attention was this one, Jackie Stewart driving with a Nikon F fixed to his helmet. I've never seen this one before, nor have I seen any evidence of any photos taken, anyone here know more?

 

[Vitesse2]

Yes the alleged Stewart photo is actually Clark at Aintree in 1961.

 

https://www.f1-photo...ear:1961/p16x20

[kayemod]

Yes the alleged Stewart photo is actually Clark at Aintree in 1961.

 

https://www.f1-photo...ear:1961/p16x20

 

I remember it well, I watched most of that race sitting under a waterproof poncho halfway up the high bank that ran along the Railway Straight.

[Vitesse2]

Getty also has this one of JYS - like all their photos of Monaco 1966 it's dated May 22nd, but my guess would be during Thursday practice.

 

[Vitesse2]

Kudos to the caption writer for getting this right though:

 

 

Graham Hill remains the only driver to have won the 'triple crown' of F1 World Championship, Le Mans 24 Hour and Indy 500.

 

NOT the erroneous 'Monaco GP, Le Mans 24 Hour and Indy 500.'

 

Although the pedant in me wants to correct the bit about the Lotus 49 being the first F1 car to race in its sponsor's colours. Especially since this article, on the BBC website, actually gets it right!

 

https://www.bbc.co.u...africa/64684013

 

The GLTL colours had of course first appeared in the Tasman series ... but still after Team Gunston.

[chr1s]

 this should prove a fruitful thread for us TNF nitpickers.

 

 

 

Got one! The reflection of Laudas' helmet in the mirror is from the cockpit of a March, not a BRM as stated in the caption. 

[opplock]

Especially since this article, on the BBC website, actually gets it right!

 

 

 

Apart from these horrors.

 

"Three weeks later, Clark was racing in a Lotus again in the Tasman Series, the Australian version of the SAF1 championship.

But his car was no longer green and yellow. It was in the red and gold of Gold Leaf Tobacco."

 

The SAF1 championship was a local championship contested by South Africans and Rhodesians. The Tasman Cup was an international series and every round I attended was held in a place very pleased NOT to be Australia. 

 

6 days later Clark was racing again in a Lotus, NZGP at Pukekohe. A green and yellow one. He raced it again a week later at Levin. Still green and yellow as I saw with my own eyes. It was converted into a fag packet in time for the Lady Wigram Trophy held on 20th January. The new paint job worked wonders as he won the race following DNFs in both previous rounds.

 

The attempt to prevent Clark and teammate Graham Hill racing was I believe at Warwick Farm. The jobsworths responsible also refused entry to the BRMs due to having black lettering on a white background or vice versa whereas the regulations required the reverse. Someone presumably realised the financial implications of banning half of the internationals and overruled the decision..     

Edited by opplock, Today, 13:21.

[Vitesse2]

The camera helmet was apparently a product of a firm called 'Gordon Enterprises', which I assume is the company now trading as Alan Gordon Enterprises. There's a slightly less cropped version of the Schlegelmilch photo in this Instagram post which claims it was 'supposedly used here to make a map of the track at Monaco'.

 

https://www.instagra.../p/B_74m9kjznR/

 

No mention of Stewart using it in DSJ's race report, nor in his 'Letter from Europe'.

[Vitesse2]

Apart from these horrors.

 

"Three weeks later, Clark was racing in a Lotus again in the Tasman Series, the Australian version of the SAF1 championship.

But his car was no longer green and yellow. It was in the red and gold of Gold Leaf Tobacco."

 

The SAF1 championship was a local championship contested by South Africans and Rhodesians. The Tasman Cup was an international series and every round I attended was held in a place very pleased NOT to be Australia.     

Well, 'Australasian' would perhaps have been a more accurate description. But point taken, even if you declined to travel to the West Island.

 

And I might be wrong, but I think SAF1 races were full Internationals on the FIA calendar. I could point you to several (for example) Brooklands and Crystal Palace meetings which were full Internationals on the AIACR calendar but where the nearest things to foreign entries were 'B Bira' (while he was still racing on a British licence) or Kay Petre ...
 

[Tim Murray]

My understanding is that Jackie and Graham wore the helmet cameras during filming of Grand Prix.



I believe that it’s John Frankenheimer on the left of the photo in the cap.

I’m surprised no-one here has yet questioned the ‘F1 at 75’ nonsense.

[kayemod]

My understanding is that Jackie and Graham wore the helmet cameras during filming of Grand Prix.

I believe that it’s John Frankenheimer on the left of the photo in the cap.
 

 

 

What use would 35mm still negatives be to a film maker like John Frankenheimer, that's all that camera is capable of producing. Rainer Schlegelmilch using it I could understand though.

[2F-001]

I’m surprised no-one here has yet questioned the ‘F1 at 75’ nonsense.

I'm sure we are all thinking it, but that baseline error is so expected that we can't be bothered to comment!

 

In the event of an accident, the extra weight of that camera strapped to the top of the driver's head could be really nasty.

 

The body appears to be attached to a motordrive base, so could take a sequence of frames, but there is no bulk film holder so the sequence would be very short.

Edited by 2F-001, Today, 17:43.

[matra120]

Rather sadly there are very few pictures and even less mention of Britain’s first and finest - the B.R.M.  It should appear in the ‘50’s, ‘60’s and ‘70’s.

[kayemod]

I'm sure we are all thinking it, but that baseline error is so expected that we can't be bothered to comment!

 

In the event of an accident, the extra weight of that camera strapped to the top of the driver's head could be really nasty.

 

The body appears to be attached to a motordrive base, so could take a sequence of frames, but there is no bulk film holder so the sequence would be very short.

 

True, and that camera body does appear to be attached to a motordrive. The one made by Nikon at the time was often referred to by users as "the birdscarer". It was so noisy it would almost have drowned out the noise of the engine.

 

2F-001 is quite right about the weight, Nikons were made for professionals, they were considered almost bomb proof, but they tended to be very much on the heavy side. On top of cornering forces etc, the weight would have made the pictured arrangement very uncomfortable indeed, not to say dangerous, I'm surprised at Jackie Stewart of all people going along with the idea.