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[JayWay]

The first round of the Karting championships was run today in Montreal. Here are the results of the top 10.

1- Van der Garde, Giedo (PB), CRG Holland
2- Liuzzi, Vitantonio (ITA), CRG
3- Vilander, Tony (FIN), CRG
4- Cesetti, Sauro (ITA), Kosmic Racing
5- Perera, Frank (Fr) , Tony Kart Racing Team
6- Fore, Davide (ITAL), Tony Kart Racing Team
7- Manetti, Alessandro (ITAL), Swiss Hutless International
8- Bakker, Randy (PB) , Team Koene
9- Picchianti, Yuri (ITAL), Italcorse
10-Beggio, Gianluca (ITAL), Birel Motorsport

[birdie]

That was only the first race (for those that don't know, it's a double header)

Can't remember top ten for race 2 but it's all on http://www.lewishamilton.com

To make this a bit F1 related ;), it's been proposed that the World Kart Championship be run alongside F1 at the tracks with infield kart circuits, perhaps on the Thursday. Dunno if it's a good idea or not, because I don't know if the circuits will be as good as the ones used now. Means we'll probably get one in the UK though which is great.

I bet I'll end up going to GPs and going home on Friday! (Love F1, not prepared to pay ticket prices!)

[100cc]

I'm pretty sure "tony" is spelled toni, not "tony".

Having races alongside f1 events would be awesome. Sepang has the best kart track I've ever been on, that would be something to watch.

Didn't CART have a few kart races during a race weekend, as a support event??

[100cc]

CRG is looking pretty strong this year.

BTW, I thought vilander got a seat in the german f3 this year???

[birdie]

It's definitely Toni, dunno about the German F3

[birdie]

Just did a search at Motorsport.com and read the announcement earlier in the year about Vilander. My guess is that he couldn't find anywhere because there's lots of ex-FA and FSA drivers about due to the championship format change. He got the CRG drive because Liuzzi was injured, turns out he's now OK and CRG are most probably paying two no. 1 driver salaries!

[911]

Karting question here:

How do they determine where to hold the World Karting Championships?

I would love to watch it some time.

911

[JayWay]

It is 5 (I think) rounds. And I assume they just hold the rounds in what they deem the best suited tracks. They will probably rotate next year and change some locations.

[birdie]

Where do you live 911?

Next year I imagine it will be one in Brazil and Australia and several in Europe again.

[pa]

Originally posted by birdie
It's definitely Toni, dunno about the German F3

Definitely? Not.

http://www.tonykarton.com/history.htm

[Bex37]

Heres a link to the official site:

http://www.worldcupk....com/index.html

[scokim]

yes, it's a Tony.

it's cool to see CRG is back. mine is also a CRG though nearly 8 years old now

100cc, what are you running up in KL ?

[birdie]

Definitely? Not.

http://www.tonykarton.com/history.htm

Sorry, not sure what you mean by that, Vilander isn't mentioned anywhere on that page. I will go by what he calls himself on his CV, ie. Toni.

http://www.motorspor...le.asp?ID=56750

And ya'll can guess which kart we race, lol

[Bogman]

Has anybody been to that track?? I see from the website they run a driving school too.

[100cc]

Originally posted by scokim
yes, it's a Tony.

it's cool to see CRG is back. mine is also a CRG though nearly 8 years old now

100cc, what are you running up in KL ?

Tony as in Tonykart??? We were talking about Toni is as in Toni Vilander, the person, not the kart, I have a tonykart now though, with a comer engine.

I had a crg as my first kart, its gone now though.

I run in a piston-port class. Thinking about trying the rotax max soon. There's a few good tracks, especially the sepang track, not so much the layout, but the asphalt!!! Its the same stuff they used on the f1 track, its a dream, not a single bump anywhere on the track=).

[100cc]

Hey scokim, you in australia??

There were a few people that went to the oceania championships from here(aaron lim, ng wai leong) a year or so ago.

And a few people from australia came here just a month or so ago(Carl Corkery, and Ian Silvestrsomething). Ian actually finished pretty high up(second or third), I swear I could hear him shout after he finished, and I wasn't exactly right beside the track either=). After Aaron broke down from 2nd and then this other guy(james), who had come up from twenty-something on the grid to second, had his radiator hose cut open. There were a LOT of retirements. This was at sepang, seems to atract a lot of people from macau, thailand, and other nearby countries.

[100cc]

Looks like toni is running the new maxter engine.

[100cc]

Another interesting finnish driver to watch is nico rosberg, the son of keke rosberg.

[JayWay]

Originally posted by Bogman
Has anybody been to that track?? I see from the website they run a driving school too.

The same school I'll be attending this August.

[scokim]

100cc,

i'm australian but living in s'pore. i used to race with the Kart Master team in s'pore, the same team that ran Denis Lian a few years back.

i'm now trying to find a budget to do a few rent-a-drive races in malaysia since there's hardly any action in spore.

[birdie]

Thinking about trying the rotax max soon.

Get one, they're wicked! My brother races a CRG/Junior Rotax Max and my dad races a Gold/Rotax Max, and I'll hopefully be racing the Gold as well.

[JayWay]

I hear Rotomax is much less expensive, then usual international competition.

[100cc]

Originally posted by scokim
100cc,

i'm australian but living in s'pore. i used to race with the Kart Master team in s'pore, the same team that ran Denis Lian a few years back.

I've seen that kartmaster car lying around at the tracks over here on a few occasions=). The rotax races should be good for a rent-a-drive don't you think??=).


Now it really does look like we'll be moving into the rotax class, mid-season:eek: , I think we'll still use our tony extreme 98 though, the old shah-alam track really gave it a tough time, since its been welded together in more than a few places=(. The piston port class is dying down, and I can race the rotax in more events than I can the pp, and with more people as well=).

Can't wait to get back to malaysia to try out the new subang track=). Some drivers didn't like it though, really long flat-out section and then a lot of twisty-turny parts with no overtaking places.

[birdie]

I hear Rotomax is much less expensive, then usual international competition.

Yeah, we're racing nationally (8 hour trip this weekend) on about £6000 for the year so it's not bad. If you compete in the national Rotax Max Challenges, the top finishers and the top over 35 y/o from each country get an all expenses paid trip to the Finals. Last year it was in Puerto Rico and the guys had a wicked time clubbing and sunbathing as well as the serious stuff! This year it's in Langkawi, Malaysia, which is apparently a resort on an island so that sounds good.

[birdie]

I guess piston port is a senior version of JICA?

[JayWay]

I know about the finals. I am thinking of entering. The only problem is the only Canadian races are mostly in Quebec. And I live in Ontario.

[birdie]

Yeah I guess it's a pity SRA aren't doing it more regionally like in the States. And I moan about sitting in a van for 8 hours ;)

[100cc]

Originally posted by birdie

This year it's in Langkawi, Malaysia, which is apparently a resort on an island so that sounds good.

Its actually beginning of 2002=), but from this year's championship.

Langkawi is a nice island, tax-free and everything. The track was o-k(drove the rental karts), nothing compared to the sepang track(IMO), and they certainly MUST re-surface before the world finals. The reason this event(among many other events) are held at langkawi is because to prime minister is really interested in promoting the island for some reason.

[Bex37]

Originally posted by birdie
I guess piston port is a senior version of JICA?

You guessed right. Although Piston Port does not use a clutch and, of course, the the minimum weight is higher.

[Bex37]

Originally posted by birdie
Yeah I guess it's a pity SRA aren't doing it more regionally like in the States. And I moan about sitting in a van for 8 hours ;)

An 8 hour trip is pretty typical if you want to go to state and national kart titles in Australia. I live one hour north of Sydney, which is pretty central. I've been to Adelaide (20 hours), Launceston (11 hours + overnight ferry crossing + 1 hour), Melbourne (10 hours) for national titles and Melbourne and Brisbane (10 hours) for state titles.

Of course there have been a number of them in Sydney as well.
They have also had national titles in Perth (48 hours) and I think they had them in the Northern Territory one year (??? hours - probably 40) but I did not go.

8 hours; thats just up the track a bit ;)

[birdie]

I might be having brainfade, but I think the RMC World Finals was gonna be at Sepang then they changed it.

I don't like England much, but the travelling is convenient I guess! We have two 8 hour drives and loads of 2-3 hour ones (I live nearish London)

[100cc]

Originally posted by birdie
I guess piston port is a senior version of JICA?

Sort of. It was introduced as a "cheap" class a few years ago.
We use EXTREMELY hard tyres(fronts last 600+ laps, rears I've never worn them out, but 1000laps+, on over 1km tracks).
They're a lot of fun to drive, but there just aren't enough people racing them anymore.

The engine has to be the comer pp50 and no modifying it at all, so its stock standard.