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#51 RedFever

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Posted 04 January 2000 - 06:56

Piquet used to make comments on every other driver, just to raise hell and for fun. He even circulated a strong rumor that Ayrton was gay, forcing Senna to always show up with his model girlfriend from there on. I like Eddie rising hell with his comments and demented jokes, Hakkinen and Schumacher are boring enough!!! For the same reason I loved Jaxs bleached hair in a world of DCs who never really say what they think.

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#52 Nasty McBastard

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Posted 04 January 2000 - 09:08

The funniest thing about this thread is the amount of people who think herbert will kick eddies arse next year.

all i have to say to that is

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha
*deep breath*
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
*gasp*

when was the last time herbert beat ANYONE with anything that even resembles consistancy?

dont get me wrong. i actually like the bloke, but id be surprised if hes still around F1 in 2001, or at atleast hasnt been given the arse from stewart-cum-jag.
Sure, he got their first win, and a very lucky one at that. Atleast rubens actually looked like having a chance of winning a race for stewart outright, when there was actually some opposition around, unlike john.
not to mention his win is about the only thing johnnys done in years.

people talk about eddies mental state etc etc and how hes gonna grack etc etc.
first. since when is johnny the psycological warfare expert?
second. everything else aside, like it or not, eddie is comming off a decent season, he fought it out for the championship, got his first wins, and unlike johnny, he actually "earned" one of them, and surely that has to have him in a better mental state than johnny who did...well.. bugger all last year. or the year before, or the year before that.....or...well... he hasnt really done much at all.

before herbert fans go getting their knickers in a knot, im fully aware hed kick my arse and that he obviously has lots of talent compared to 99.99 % of the population or he wouldnt be where he is....its just against the other 0.01% im talking about.

#53 Linus27

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Posted 04 January 2000 - 12:16

614David

I do not know of any comments where Irvine has publically been nice to a driver and then the next day in the press slated that driver. I have never got the impression from Eddie that he goes around making out he is rich and has the right to say what he likes. What experience have you had that has given you that impression as I have never seen or heard on the TV or in the press Eddie saying he is really rich and can say and do what he likes. You sound like you are in envy of him.
I am not a massive Eddie fan and he does not make me laugh but I like how he is not boring and stiff like MS/MH/DC although MH does make me laugh in his interviews. What I also like about Eddie is he is a racer, he fight for places and finishes races. Ok he is not fast but he is a colourful and entertaining driver and a talented driver. At least he can finish races.

For those who doubt him. Go watch Monaco 99. He made a great start, pushing past Coulthard. Good aggressive racing, one reason why I rate him. Schumacher pulled away from everyone and Eddie then steadily caught up with Mika until he was right up with him and all over his arse. Once ahead of Mika after the pitstops, he again started to pull away from Mika to keep second. Watch it, that report was a little simple but you will see Eddie drive a fast, consistant race. I cant see anyone think different. It was a great drive by him, by a driver who was at that time meant to finish 2nd to Schumacher and he did the job perfectly.

#54 Linus27

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Posted 05 January 2000 - 00:28

614David

???????????? Don't understand that type of reply.

#55 wheelsonfire

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Posted 05 January 2000 - 03:03

There are a set of articles written by Irvine after every race of 1999 at www.sportlive.net

Give them a read if you haven't... I think you will find Irvine's public comments quite modest in most instances, and usually funny.

He also gets praise by everyone for his sportsmanship in defeat at Suzuka, and the photo of he and Mika embracing on the podium was shown in newspapers the world over.

The quote that I like the best is his post-Suzuka article opening line: "Pass the aspirin... the more I think about losing the world title, the more it will hurt, so I am going to make sure my brain is in no condition to have thoughts."

For what it's worth... probably futile. :)

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#56 tom

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Posted 05 January 2000 - 03:18

linus ,
geez
you've gotta learn to reallise who's an arsehole , other wise your gonna wind up hanging around with some real deadbeat's..
now eddie , he's an arsehole.. simple fact, i know it and 614 know's it , you need a new favourite driver linus , a fast driver like hakkinen/villeneuve/frentzen/rubino/trulli/
cos then when someone say's hakkinen sux , you can say "go watch suzuka 99/98/97/96/95"
you'll have good fast races as example's..

what you said about eddie at monaco was a farse , he was getting yet another hiding by his teammate , and the only reason he got 2nd was cos mika spun on someone's oil......not because he was lapping 2 seconds a lap quicker than him, like mika was at suzuka99 ....

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#57 Linus27

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Posted 05 January 2000 - 03:49

Tom

You are really thick. I am sorry to say it but you are. I have said on many occations and in my last post, clear for all to see that Eddie is NOT my favourite driver. Do you not understand that. Jean Alesi is my favourite driver. He always has been and always will be. That is why I have 27 in my name. This is the number of the Ferrari he drove and the same number Gilles drove. Can you not understand that, I have said that many a time including in my last post. Jacques is my second favourite driver and thats it. Nobody else is top of my list after that. Have you got that yet.

As for monaco. First yes, Michael did give Eddie a hiding at Monaco, he always will but he also gave Mika a hiding who was very slow that day. Also. I gather you have not watched the race becaus if you do, you will see Eddie catches up you Mika and was all over his arse way before Mika spun on the Arrows engine oil. Then after the Pit stops. Eddie pulls away from Mika. Basically Mika could not keep up with Eddie. FACT. Watch the race and you will see this. If you can't see that, then you are simply lieing to me and youself. Maybe you would like to explain to me why Eddie caught up with Mika and was all over his arse and then after they both pit, Eddie pulls away from him. I would like to know what your thoughts are.


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Posted 05 January 2000 - 03:51

Until last year I only thought of EI as a driver who would sell his racing soul. I can't imagine reaching the pinnacle of motor racing only to sign a contract that sells you out to a prima donna? But perhaps he did such a thing to prove that he could compete against MS even in such a tilted environment, plus to learn from him his strengths and weaknesses, and to store up some sordid stories that I'm sure we'll hear lots of in the coming years...
EI has never shown me that he is able to driver above his peers. This may be a good thing though, as DC tried and failed in the rain last year at Nurburgring.
All the best EI in 2000, you would make a good media champion.

#59 tom

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Posted 05 January 2000 - 10:14

linus,

o.k i get it eddie is not your favourite driver..

but he must be one of your favourite's, going by the way your always defending him.

at monaco , i admit eddie was [in the later part of the race] on average faster than hakkinen, even though mika set the fastest lap near the end of the race, but that doesn't mean eddie was driving better than hakkinen that day , the ferrari was the best car at monaco 99..
hakkinen's car was very inconsistent , he got pole [just] but in the race he said it was very inconsistent ,

and eddie WASN'T going to beat hakkinen if hakkinen hadn't spun on that oil! .......o.k.......

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#60 614david

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Posted 05 January 2000 - 22:37

Linus27;
Okay, you are never going to understand why i hate Eddie Irvine, and I am, never going to understand why you defend him, so how about, on the subject of him, we simply agree to disagree?

tom;
Have you got this weeks edition of Autosport? If not i suggest you purchase a copy, as it has rather a nice little article in it which you might like to read- something about Eddie Irvine and Luck!!
I'll find my magazine and quote it for you- it might cheer you up a bit.

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Posted 05 January 2000 - 23:18

My impression is that EI really feeds on the controversy that surrounds him. That's part of the reason he makes so many outlandish statements. I'm not interested in all of the psychological implications of this behaviour, it's just a fact of life with him.

As far as Ferrari is concerned, the team appears to be too centered around MS. I believe that Luca M. has taken some steps to address this issue and it won't be as much of a barrier for RB to show what he can do, hopefully.

I'm very interested to see how EI compares with JH as the season goes on. JH had so much promise in F3000 that his post-injury F1 experience has to be a disappointment. As noted elsewhere, he appears to be getting into a groove now and we will have a better basis for evaluating the two of them.

Thank you.

#62 Linus27

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Posted 06 January 2000 - 03:14

Tom

Well I am not sure about favourite drivers after Alesi and Villeneuve. I used to really like Fizzy but he has gone off the boil as of late. I like Ralf, I think he is really getting good and a totally different driver than Michael. I think Truli has promise and this year at Jordan will prove he has or hasn't and Wurz impressed me but has also gone off the boil. Interesting both drivers at Bennetton have lost it. Never really been a Hill or Johnny fan or even a Rubens fan although I like Rubens as a person. Michael is the best overall but Mika is the fastest. David is typical of the Scottish cliche. A wingeing Scott. As for Frentzen, although he drove great last year, I just can't get to like him as he used to be so useless as Sauber and Williams. Now Eddie. Well you might find this hard to believe but I used to hate Eddie as a driver. I used to think Eddie and Heinz were so useless. Could always rely on them to take other drivers out or crash out but since joining ferrari and especially as of last year I thought he has really developed into a race winning driver. Consistant and competitive. He will never be a world champion and is not in the same league as Michael or Mika but he can win races.

No No.27 is not me honest. I would be interested to find out what the 27 mean in that persons name. Hopefully another Alesi fan.

614David

Ok. fair enough. I only defend him as I think some of the comments are a little unfair. I think everyone would agree he is not as good as Michael or Mika and never will be.

#63 RedFever

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Posted 06 January 2000 - 03:22

well, 27 is for some probably their age, but 27 is also a magical number for some F1 fans. 27 was Gilles Villeneuve's number in 1981 and 1982 (he raced with number 12 in 78 & 79 and with number 2 in 1980). It was like the Pranching Horse in italy, people would even play 27 red at the roulette.....

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Posted 06 January 2000 - 03:25

well linus , you wouldn't believe it, i just did a good post , it had some good points about frentzen never being 'useless' ,
but apparently i entered the wrong password , so i can't be bothered writing it again..

614 , giving up already?

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#65 Linus27

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Posted 06 January 2000 - 04:56

Tom

Oh go on. please type it again. all we ever talk about us two is Eddie and Mika. Please

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The 27 in my name is for the No.27 Ferrari Alesi drove.

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Posted 06 January 2000 - 11:45

linus , sorry but there's no way i'm typing that whole lot again ,
but i'll say this ,
frentzen was never useless, if you say he was useless at sauber and williams your a fool..
he was never too far behind villeneuve, and villeneuve is a true champion.
and at sauber, what did you expect him to be winning races in that car or something?

he always out qualified his teammates at sauber.
i think back in 94 he overtook hakkinen on the track in the wet at suzuka , i dunno what was wrong with mika or his car but it sounds good anyway..
i know villeneuve thrashed frentzen at hockenhiem/monza/hungary in 98 but villeneuve's a legend so you've gotta expect that now and then..
frentzen even beat villeneuve fair and square a few times.
he was never useless, admit it...

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[This message has been edited by tom (edited 01-06-2000).]

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Posted 06 January 2000 - 21:10

For those of you in the UK there's a programme about Eddie on Channel 4 tonight. From the trailer it looks like he's in fine form.;)
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Posted 06 January 2000 - 23:29

Tom,

i know villeneuve thrashed villeneuve at hockenhiem/monza/hungary in 98 but villeneuve's a legend so you've gotta expect that now and then..


I never realised Villenueve was quite that special.


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Posted 06 January 2000 - 23:34

Johnny will beat Eddie next season.
Johnny has improved alot he has more experience.
Eddie is not abad driver and it could end up close but i think he will do it, too many people underestimate Johnny, I think the people who think Eddie will have an easy time of it are in for a shock.

GO JOHNNY GO

#70 614david

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Posted 06 January 2000 - 23:36

tom; I am not giving up, i just can't be bothered to keep repeating the same argument with linus27, i usually agree with many of his posts, and in this case i don't, there really isn't anything to argue about, if i'm going to argue with someone then i will wait for something that i can really have a good argument about- find me an Eddie Irvine fan, who is prepared to defend his favourite driver the way i do, and then you will see a good argument.

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Posted 06 January 2000 - 23:42

614David,

What the heck are you talking about? You've never made a single person understand why you like Cubehead. He drives like a substance abuser and interviews like a eunuch.

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Posted 06 January 2000 - 23:53

You don't have to understand, you just have to acknowledge, seeing as none of you have twigged this, i still have to have almighty arguments with some people(see 'worst driver ever' topic), i don't expect you to understand- thats not the point, if you understood there wouldn't be much point in me arguing my side at all. I also wouldn't understand this imaginary(so far) Irvine supporter, but it could make for some interesting arguments,
Understand? :D

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Posted 07 January 2000 - 03:16

nick garth , what are you talkin about?

"i know villeneuve thrashed villeneuve at hockenhiem/monza and hungary but vileneuve's a legend so you've gotta expect that now and then."

i never said that. --- i said --"i know villeneuve thrashed frentzen at hockenhiem/monza and hungary but vileneuve's a legend so you've gotta expect that now and then."

go back and read it again , i think your seeing things..

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Posted 07 January 2000 - 03:19

tom,

Gilles was the legend. Jacques is his son. Two very different Villeneuves.

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Posted 07 January 2000 - 03:52

yeah well jaques is a legend in the making then..
agree?

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#76 Todd

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Posted 07 January 2000 - 04:08

Well, he certainly made his mark from '94 to '97, but he should have left F1 in '98. If he could have dominated LeMans in '99 and been rookie of the year next year in Winston Cup, he'd have kept up his pace. Now it just looks like he was in the right place at the right time. He is probably good enough to compare favorably with Hakkinen. He'll almost certainly never be a legend internationally.

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Posted 07 January 2000 - 08:12

614David

I do not understand your post about arguing with me. I didn't think we were. What are we arguing about and maybe I will take notice and have a good go.

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Posted 07 January 2000 - 11:00

Tom,
The edit gives you away.

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Posted 07 January 2000 - 23:50

Oops, did i say arguing?
I meant vocalising different opinions- Brain fade on my behalf. apologies!!

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#80 Linus27

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Posted 08 January 2000 - 00:31

614David

Do not worry, Coulthard suffers from the same problem, Which team am I in, Is Mika my team mate or not, is this F1 or bumper cars, do I hit Mika or Michael, Do I crash on my own or take Mika out etc :) :) :)

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Posted 08 January 2000 - 03:02

Hehehehehehehehe!!!!!!
I wish it was Irvine he took out more regularly instead of mika, never mind, i'm sure they'll both get over it :);)

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#82 IRISH

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Posted 08 March 2000 - 07:36

He's just to cocky & is all hype,he has alot to prove this weekend.

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Posted 08 March 2000 - 10:21

Too bad I wasn't here at the time this thread first began..

Well I'm just gonna say one thing:

Linus, RedFever and Wheelsonfire,

I'm SO glad that you've noticed the same thing (about that Irish humour)!! :)

#84 IRISH

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Posted 08 March 2000 - 10:53

I know I have to work on my sense of humor,the Finish really have a handle on it.I would aspire to mabey be as funny as Hakkinen or mabey Tommi Makkinen.Yeh the Finish have a really good sense of humor........ :p

#85 Irvinegirl

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Posted 08 March 2000 - 21:40

Very well,
Maybe I should've said that Eddie-Irvine-humour... :)

Besides, not all the Finns understand Finnish humour either...Half of the population doesn't like Salo.
But he's just joking most of the time. Not everyone understands that...