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[dfernandd]

Suppose that Jordan and Honda get it right in 2002, (something like bmw williams this year). Do you think Jean Alsei is capable to win a race again with Jorda?

I´m personally think yes. It seems that he still has the desire to do well and to win races.

Any comments

[fifi]

it is possibly that they may win races next year, but im not so sure

[Nira]

Is Alesi driving for Jordan in 02? I was hoping for Sato / Fisichella my self.

I don't think Jordan will win this year, Alesi or no Alesi.

[No27]

If Jordan wins a GP in the near future, which I doubt, it will be with Jarno Trulli.

[SchuMic]

1999 is far away and after this year, I don't see Jordan to be again in a position to win race as they did that year. Except with luck (à la Stewart in Nurburgring 99).

So Jean Alesi or not...I doubt it.

And Sato? What's all the hype with this guy? There're many other current drivers in F1 that deserve the seat.

[arcwulf7]

Alesi got more from the Prost than anybody expected, but a win against the phalanx of Williams, McLarens, Ferraris that have virtually every conceivable track and driving condition covered is most unlikely. Podium? -- well if Alesi could get a 5th in a Prost, then a podium is not unrealistic, since the somewhat lesser BAR's have two of those.

[gerry nassar]

Maybe a podium this year but not a win. Im not sure if he is signed up for next year though.

[brett_sequeira]

IF he could take points in a prost well anything is possible. he may take a podium place when one of the big boys comes a cropper on the side of the track.

[molive]

no

[Breadmaster]

It could happen...Jordan always go well and Spa...if it rains.....please god let it rain!

Alesi wins in Belgium....It's worth a bet.

[Todd]

Originally posted by Breadmaster
It could happen...Jordan always go well and Spa...if it rains.....please god let it rain!

Alesi wins in Belgium....It's worth a bet.

I'll take your money, I mean your bet. What other things do you bet on? It is late in the season for mass-unreliabilty at any track other than Hockenheim, so I can't see Alesi beating 6 better driver who will still have better cars.

[ffiloseta]

Before Jarno does ? NO WAY !

[TheDestroyer]

NO.

Jordan doesn't have the car and they still don't have a driver.

[Breadmaster]

It's nice to dream though....

[TheDestroyer]

Bread,

I used to think so... However, after the HHF was fired I hope EJ never, ever wins another GP.

A pox upon his paddock.

[Breadmaster]

I was thinking more of Alesi than of Jordan to be honest...
Eddie has lost all the respect I had for him....which is a good thing for his sake, maybe now he's being a bastard in public his image of the happy-go-lucky leprechaun will be replaced?

If this shuffling means Jean has a crack at getting another win before the end of his career then i'm backing it all the way!

[TheDestroyer]

Well from Alesi's point of view, yeah.

It would be nice to see him win another. God watch out for the track if he does...

[KinetiK]

Originally posted by Nira
Is Alesi driving for Jordan in 02? I was hoping for Sato / Fisichella my self.

I don't think Jordan will win this year, Alesi or no Alesi.

Interestingly, if you substitute "Michael Schumacher" for "Jean Alesi" the above statement still rings true.;)

[GraDee]

IMO sadly, not even Jean could do that for the team... nor could Senna, Schumacher and Fangio combined.... the team is a mess and need to get back on track.

[jk]

Wrong Gradee.
Senna is maybe more than a second to the others in qual. Schumacher is maybe ½ a second a lap in the race, and Fangio would be able to hold the pace through the race. I think that might give them a lucky win, even in a Jordan

[KinetiK]

Originally posted by jk
Wrong Gradee.
Senna is maybe more than a second to the others in qual. Schumacher is maybe ½ a second a lap in the race, and Fangio would be able to hold the pace through the race. I think that might give them a lucky win, even in a Jordan

Senna worth a full second? Michael worth half a second? I think you're a bit out to lunch there jk.

[magic]

he'll win as many races as he did in '89, '90.'91'92'93'94'96'97'98'99'00'01...

[Todd]

Originally posted by jk
Wrong Gradee.
Senna is maybe more than a second to the others in qual. Schumacher is maybe ½ a second a lap in the race, and Fangio would be able to hold the pace through the race. I think that might give them a lucky win, even in a Jordan

jk,

A second in qualifying in 1988 is not as significant as a second in qualifying today. Just look at the variance between 1st and 10th position then, and look at it today. Because of grooves, naturally aspirated engines, or other technological change, the difference between good and top drivers is smaller than ever in qualifying. It is in consistency that you can tell who is really special now. Look at how Senna compared with Hakkinen in 1993 and how Hakkinen compares with Coulthard. Is Coulthard as fast as Senna? Faster than Prost? I think that drivers are a smaller piece of the qualifying puzzle.

[Boston Killer]

I do not really think that driving genious alone can win a race nowadays
Jordan's car is better than Prost's, but honda is down on the horsepower compared to last year's Ferrari, so the package does not seem extremely competitive
I assume finishing as as third would be a GREAT result for Jean and Jordan.
Sadly, I do ot really think that next year's Jordan will be any better either.

[orange]

If jordan can take a podium or a win , then jean surely can be the driver to do it.

Is JT better than JA ? I am not sure , but even if JT is better then also JT car can fail and JA can win/take the podium.

I beleive it has to do with the car than driver ...

And as for JT , he has been moaning more than driving ..

[Nikolas Garth]

Hard to see any driver not in a Williams, McLaren or Ferrari winning, anytime soon.

[RJL]

Absolutely right on that point nik.

[ForzaF1]

I doubt he'll win, but would love to see it, if it rains then maybe there's an outside chance. I've always like Jean Alesi from his debutin F1, and of course as a tifosi I like any former Ferrari driver!.

I've also been a fan of Jordan from their start in F1, and I don't know what to think about the HHF situation. On the surface it seems a pretty shitty thing to do, OTOH I don't think all the detail of the situation are known to the public. It will be interesting to see what new information (if any) comes out down the road.

[magic]

"I was doing very well against Jean early on and then we had a little bit of an argument at Silverstone. I was being asked to let Jean past when I didn't think I should have been and we had a falling out over that. Then I said, right, OK, I don't agree with what you're asking me to do but, if you ask me again to do it, I will, even though I think it's wrong.

"So we got to the next race and, in qualifying, it was wet with a drying track. I went out with about 5 or 6 minutes to go and, just as I was going on to the track, Peter [Sauber] came on the radio and told me to let Jean past. I thought, OK, I shall do my job. Unfortunately, I had to wait for a lap and a half before he actually came past because he was nowhere near me. So, by the time I started, my tyres were cold and, of course, he ended up second and I ended up 18th.

"That really destroyed me a little bit - I just couldn't believe that, for two races on the trot, they asked me to do that. So I was really unhappy about that and it affected me for three or four races, but then I got myself back together by the end of the year. It made it less sweet than it should have been because, up until then, for the majority of the time I had been quicker than Jean. That upset me a lot."

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even johhny quicker than jean?

[Zawed]

Realistically no, but there is always hope!

[magic]

in nowayeverneverland he'll inheret a second win.
but hey, let him stay.

[leegle]

It will be hard to beat Williams and Schumacher but it might be possible if as Breadmaster says the Jordan regains it wet weather Spa form for him to place well.;) It would certainly be nice to see them break into the top rank and it would help them secure their Honda deal for the future.

[AlesiUK]

Honda will definately get it right next year,they always do when they come into f1.

And with the signing of Taylor from Sauber to design the car,this might well be a winning package next year.

Alesi is the final piece in the jigsaw.

[miniman]

Eddie Jordan had to pick the last F1 driver who refuses to use LC and TC for a car whose LC and TC doesn't work. Makes sense!

[Monza Bambino]

Originally posted by magic
he'll win as many races as he did in '89, '90.'91'92'93'94'96'97'98'99'00'01...

Hmmm interesting way to look at it...if Alesi can work on his patience and overtaking skills,he may have a chance in a race of heavy attrition...on the assumptions the Honda has some grunt,EJ is organized,the team is motivated and Jean hasn`t put on weight.

You`d have to give him a slight chance.

[Hakk]

In my oppinion Jordan is not a race winning car this year. And Alesi hasn't been actually winnier type neither, so I think it's very unlikely that he'll win a GP.

[Jdcasas]

Eddie Jordan made a great mistake by firing Frentzen, who is definitely better than alesi, and definetely better than most drivers out there on the grid. You will see that Frentzen`s performance in Prost is much better than Alesi`s in prost. SO, if anyone wins in a Jordan, its going to be trulli, not alesi at all.

[Jdcasas]

Frentzen will prove just how fast he is... alesi will not get even close to trulli. EJ made a huge mistake.

[LuckyStrike1]

Originally posted by ffiloseta
Before Jarno does ? NO WAY !

Herbert happened to win in the Stewart when Barrichello was driving there so ...

[ffiloseta]

Originally posted by LuckyStrike1


Herbert happened to win in the Stewart when Barrichello was driving there so ...

Now what do you mean, that Herbert was a lesser pilot than Barrichello or that mere luck can make the difference ?

If you meant luck, I of course agree, otherwise, I have to say I don't see how Barrichello is a better pilot than Herbert. Herbert has even won more races (though I don't really consider that this alone makes the difference).

[mhferrari]

I don't think they will win, but a podium, yes.

[RaoulDuke]

He'll win the next three races. Can someone pass the J back around?

cts

[Bee]

Originally posted by miniman
Eddie Jordan had to pick the last F1 driver who refuses to use LC and TC for a car whose LC and TC doesn't work. Makes sense!

But hey! If MS and Hill could lose the lead in Canada '95, and Alesi could win in an underpar Ferrari, then I say - why not??
But not this year. I also find it hard to believe that EJ will keep him for next year.
Does anyone see this as an Alesi swan song? We're all so excited about the last few races this year - BUT- where's JA going in 2002? This has been worrying me for a while now.

[Math Soucy]

I agree with Destroyer. The Jordan is not going to reach the top step of the dais this season, and, following the HHF episode, hopefully never.

[ClashCityRocker]

Originally posted by ffiloseta
Before Jarno does ? NO WAY !

Jarno qualifies well but then stinks it up in the races.

Alesi will not get a win or anywhere near a win.

[RJL]

Originally posted by magic
[B
"That really destroyed me a little bit - I just couldn't believe that, for two races on the trot, they asked me to do that. So I was really unhappy about that and it affected me for three or four races, but then I got myself back together by the end of the year. It made it less sweet than it should have been because, up until then, for the majority of the time I had been quicker than Jean. That upset me a lot."

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even johhny quicker than jean? [/B]

Well, this just looks like a bit of sour grapes to me. Nice work typing all that into the computer, Magic, but I actually went back and looked at the facts. While it's true that Johnny
out-q'd Jean in five of the first six races, this is not totally unexpected as it was his team & Alesi was the newcomer. Once Alesi found his feet in the Sauber he out-q'd young Johny 10 to 6 overall, including NINE in a row (not three as Johnny says). Herbie finally got one back at the final round. Incidently no points are awarded for qualifying that I am aware of, and Jean outscored Johnny 9 points to 1 on the season. I'm not bashing Herbert, just setting the record straight.

[brett_sequeira]

im not sure of winning but he may make it to the podium. however that may seem a tough issue what with 3 front running goody good teams.

[Winegod]

Yeah, but some of the upcoming weekends and race tracks will be wet like a horny pornstar!

Advantage Alesi!

;)

[magic]

so johnny is a slowmo moaning not the truth?

go johny go:down:

[AlesiUK]

Anyone know what the odds on an Alei win at spa are??

Might be worth an ayrton senna or two......