A friend says he remembers a Test of a Williams Honda V-6 in the mid 1980`s in which it went from 0 to 62.5 mph in less than 2 seconds, does anyone else remember such a test ? And just how quick were the Turbo F1 cars ?
How quick were the Turbo F1 Cars ?
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slipstream
, Oct 24 2001 04:09
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Zawed
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Posted 24 October 2001 - 07:38
Well Rosberg holds the record for fastest average speed over a lap at Silverstone, just over 160kmh I think, set in 1985 with a Williams Honda Turbo.
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Darren Galpin
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Posted 24 October 2001 - 07:53
Make that mph......
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Darren Galpin
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Posted 24 October 2001 - 07:56
1985 British GP Qualifying:
Keke Rosberg (Williams-Honda FW10), 1:05.591 (258.983 km/h)
Keke Rosberg (Williams-Honda FW10), 1:05.591 (258.983 km/h)
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Posted 24 October 2001 - 17:43
O-100 kph in less than two seconds? No way...
That would require an average acceleration of almost 14 m/s², whereas the real average acceleration of an F1 car in the late eighties (turbocharged or not) was around 7 to 8 m/s².
That would require an average acceleration of almost 14 m/s², whereas the real average acceleration of an F1 car in the late eighties (turbocharged or not) was around 7 to 8 m/s².
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Posted 24 October 2001 - 19:37
If you'd like some measured acceleration figures, look at this:
1984 Arrows A7-BMW, Sport Auto: 0-100: 3,1 -140: 4,7, -200: 6,4
1984 RAM-Hart, 1.8 boost, wet track, Sport Auto:
0-100: 4,1, -140: 6,3, -200: 10,1
1986 Zakspeed, sport auto: 3,8/5,3/6,9
1987 Williams Honda FW11B, probably williams figures: 0-100 2,0, 0-200 6,0
1988 McLaren 4/4, Sport Auto?, 2,8/3,9/5,6
Beware, figures are dependent on boost pressure, track condition and gear ratio. But at least it gives an impression.
1984 Arrows A7-BMW, Sport Auto: 0-100: 3,1 -140: 4,7, -200: 6,4
1984 RAM-Hart, 1.8 boost, wet track, Sport Auto:
0-100: 4,1, -140: 6,3, -200: 10,1
1986 Zakspeed, sport auto: 3,8/5,3/6,9
1987 Williams Honda FW11B, probably williams figures: 0-100 2,0, 0-200 6,0
1988 McLaren 4/4, Sport Auto?, 2,8/3,9/5,6
Beware, figures are dependent on boost pressure, track condition and gear ratio. But at least it gives an impression.
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Posted 26 October 2001 - 03:41
Frank, Thanks for those Acceleration numbers it is interesting. I have one question, The numbers for the Zakspeed and and the 87 Williams- Honda are they in mph or kph ? I know that the American Magazine Road & Track tested the 1986 Benetton BMW but it was not full boost,it went from 0 to 60 mph in 2.8 seconds 0 to 100 in 4.8 and 0 to 160 mph in 6.0 seconds.
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Frank de Jong
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Posted 26 October 2001 - 06:54
It's all kmh (I'm from the continent...). If you compare the 0-60 mph of the Benetton to the 0-100 kph of my data, it sort of makes sense. 2,8 seconds seem an average time, a car on high boost could probably get under 2,5 seconds, although I doubt the Williams figure of 2,0 seconds.
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David M. Kane
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Posted 26 October 2001 - 12:07
There was description of a qualifying run that Rene Arnoux did
in a previous topic awhile back. It was pretty eye opening to say the least. It is hard for a lot of us to visualize just how fast
turbo cars can be. As Jody S. said of the turbo Can-Am Porsche,
"it is like putting on a pair of rollerskates and then strapping
a rocket pack on your back!"
When they got to 1400bhp in qualifying trim and the guys sitting
in the cars behind you were getting high from the exhaust fumes,
Bernie and Max said, "You know this is getting a little out of
hand"...
in a previous topic awhile back. It was pretty eye opening to say the least. It is hard for a lot of us to visualize just how fast
turbo cars can be. As Jody S. said of the turbo Can-Am Porsche,
"it is like putting on a pair of rollerskates and then strapping
a rocket pack on your back!"
When they got to 1400bhp in qualifying trim and the guys sitting
in the cars behind you were getting high from the exhaust fumes,
Bernie and Max said, "You know this is getting a little out of
hand"...
