
Who is the greatest Benetton driver ever?
#1
Posted 25 October 2001 - 13:49
#3
Posted 25 October 2001 - 13:59

#4
Posted 25 October 2001 - 14:00
#5
Posted 25 October 2001 - 14:03

#6
Posted 25 October 2001 - 14:17

My vote is Schumacher.
#7
Posted 25 October 2001 - 14:18

#8
Posted 25 October 2001 - 14:19
Either way i gather in both cases we'll get the same answer
#9
Posted 25 October 2001 - 14:26
#10
Posted 25 October 2001 - 14:28
The question should be who is the wurz Benetton driver ever??;)
#11
Posted 25 October 2001 - 14:37

#12
Posted 25 October 2001 - 14:46
Piquet
Nannini
Fisico
#13
Posted 25 October 2001 - 15:00
#14
Posted 25 October 2001 - 15:22
#15
Posted 25 October 2001 - 15:31
#16
Posted 25 October 2001 - 15:33
#17
Posted 25 October 2001 - 15:33
Poles 10/15 = 66.7%
Fastest Laps 23/36 = 63.9%
Benetton WDCs 2/2 = 100%
Benetton WCCs 1/1 = 100%
Career WDCs:
Piquet 3 w/ Brabham(2) and Williams
Schumacher 4 w/ Benetton(2) and Ferrari (2)
Schumacher is also #1 in career wins for a GP driver, #2 for pole positions, #1 for fastest laps, and equal #2 for career WDCs. Hmm. I wonder who the best of the 17 Benetton drivers could have been?

#18
Posted 25 October 2001 - 15:44
end of discussion
#19
Posted 25 October 2001 - 15:56
I'm amazed that you're perceptive enough to do that.
#21
Posted 25 October 2001 - 16:07

#22
Posted 25 October 2001 - 16:08
2. Alesi
3. Berger
4. Piquet
5. Nannini & Fisico
#23
Posted 25 October 2001 - 17:10
Maybe so, but he has the 2nd most wins after Schumacher for Benetton (3), and had given them in 1990 their highest placing in the driver's table (3rd) that was equaled and surpassed by only Schumacher. Paired with Nannini they also combined to amass Benetton's best points total ever (with 71), that has only been eclipsed again by Schumacher's period with the team. This still stands.Originally posted by Ricardo F1
Piquet was a great Brabham driver and then Williams driver, he was not a great Benetton driver.
#24
Posted 25 October 2001 - 17:29
2. NP
3. GB
4. JA
#25
Posted 25 October 2001 - 17:41
Emanuele Pirro
Nobody else could compare.
Spirit
#26
Posted 25 October 2001 - 17:51

Next poll, who's the greatest German driver ever

Options:
Michael Schumacher
Boris Becker
Karsten Jancker
Baron von Zeppelin
that bloke from Kraftwerk
probable outcome:
Boris Becker 34 votes
Baron von Zeppelin 30 votes
Michael Schumacher 10 votes
that bloke from Kraftwerk 9 votes
Karsten Jancker 9 votes
#27
Posted 25 October 2001 - 17:55
Originally posted by Todd
Why doesn't someone just start a "who is the best driver with the initials MS?" thread? There would be the same number of people with so little respect for logic that they would give any other answer.![]()
Here's my entry ;)
1 Mimmo Schiattarella
2 Mike Spence
3 Mike Sparken
4 Moises Solana
5 Marc Surer
6 Mika Salo
7 Michael Schumacher
Best benetton driver... Roberto Moreno!

#28
Posted 25 October 2001 - 18:02
#29
Posted 25 October 2001 - 18:05
Originally posted by Todd
Wins 19/27 = 70%
Poles 10/15 = 66.7%
Fastest Laps 23/36 = 63.9%
Benetton WDCs 2/2 = 100%
Benetton WCCs 1/1 = 100%
Career WDCs:
Piquet 3 w/ Brabham(2) and Williams
Schumacher 4 w/ Benetton(2) and Ferrari (2)
Schumacher is also #1 in career wins for a GP driver, #2 for pole positions, #1 for fastest laps, and equal #2 for career WDCs. Hmm. I wonder who the best of the 17 Benetton drivers could have been?![]()
While I don't disagree with the conclusion that MS was the best driver Benetton had, I don't agree with your percentages. He started in 1991 after one race with Jordan, and did 68 races in total. In His first complete season he had a poke and a win. Was impressive.
#30
Posted 25 October 2001 - 18:06
Originally posted by Todd
"I see fat people"
I'm amazed that you're perceptive enough to do that.
I'm amazed you noticed.
#31
Posted 25 October 2001 - 18:15
oops he wasn't technically driving for Benetton was he?;)
#32
Posted 25 October 2001 - 18:16
Originally posted by ehagar
While I don't disagree with the conclusion that MS was the best driver Benetton had, I don't agree with your percentages. He started in 1991 after one race with Jordan, and did 68 races in total. In His first complete season he had a poke and a win. Was impressive.
He didn't get a poke until 1992? He would have been 23 that season. That is a long time to wait. The chin must really have been a handicap.
If you meant a pole position, I disagree. The active suspension equipped Williams-Renaults racked up the pole positions in '92 and '93. Schumacher didn't record any until 1994.
The numbers given are Schumacher's percentages of the team's totals. For example, Michael recorded 19 of Benetton's 27 wins. The others were won by Piquet(3), Berger(2 - Benetton's first and last), Herbert(2), and Nannini(1).
#33
Posted 25 October 2001 - 18:31
Originally posted by Todd
The numbers given are Schumacher's percentages of the team's totals. For example, Michael recorded 19 of Benetton's 27 wins. The others were won by Piquet(3), Berger(2 - Benetton's first and last), Herbert(2), and Nannini(1).
DOH!

#34
Posted 25 October 2001 - 18:37
#35
Posted 25 October 2001 - 18:46
Polar
#36
Posted 25 October 2001 - 20:15
Originally posted by Ricardo F1
Piquet was a great Brabham driver and then Williams driver, he was not a great Benetton driver.
I think that explains it perfectly.
Only one driver could possibly be the greatest benetton driver. The one who brought them ALL of their success. It isnt about whether schumacher is better than piquet, it is about who was the great benetton driver. And THAT children is not even in doubt.
Shaun
#37
Posted 25 October 2001 - 20:19
#38
Posted 25 October 2001 - 20:21
Shaun
#39
Posted 25 October 2001 - 20:45

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#40
Posted 25 October 2001 - 20:46
Originally posted by Ghostrider
Fisi!!! But I am biased!!![]()
Ditto that!!!
Wow 6 of us agree!!!

Yes i know MS has been the most sucessful but Fisi had to have my vote cos i still believe he has sooo much potential, without having the team moulded around him or one of the better cars in the feild!
#41
Posted 25 October 2001 - 21:53
Originally posted by Todd
Why doesn't someone just start a "who is the best driver with the initials MS?" thread? There would be the same number of people with so little respect for logic that they would give any other answer.![]()
1) Marc Surer
2) Mika Salo
3) Mike Spence
4) Moises Solana
5) Mike Sparken
did I leave out anyone?;)
#42
Posted 25 October 2001 - 23:16

"He was 40 seconds behind Alesi and no-one thought that a top driver could catch another top driver with that sort of lead. No-one else would have tried. Now I will. I'll go for it every time."
Dave Coulthard
At Nurburgring 1995, Michael Schumacher ruthlessly carves past the leaders for the win.
#43
Posted 26 October 2001 - 00:03
Next up Berger, Piquet, Alesi, Fisichella and Fabi.
#44
Posted 26 October 2001 - 00:47
#45
Posted 26 October 2001 - 00:52

So far the poll shows us more 'bout the people voting than those who are voted for....or against


#46
Posted 26 October 2001 - 06:28
#47
Posted 26 October 2001 - 06:46
#48
Posted 26 October 2001 - 13:35
Originally posted by Richie Jenkins
Here's my entry ;)
1 Mimmo Schiattarella
2 Mike Spence
3 Mike Sparken
4 Moises Solana
5 Marc Surer
6 Mika Salo
7 Michael Schumacher
but Mimmo´s first name is Domenico...
#49
Posted 26 October 2001 - 14:46
#50
Posted 26 October 2001 - 19:14
Originally posted by dutra
but Mimmo´s first name is Domenico...
Yep - I know but Mike Sparken's real name is Michael Poberejsky! I just thought it would be nice for Mimmo to top a list for once in his life!