I wonder if anyone knows about that novel or short story, whatever it is - I'm wishing to read it for many years! But I will just in case check if there is any truth in story... and start to dig around my house if it is!




Posted 26 October 2001 - 16:20
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Posted 29 October 2001 - 06:37
Originally posted by Hans Etzrodt
Bugatti has built six Type 41 La Royales; Chassis Numbers 41100, 41111, 41121, 41131, 41141 and 41150. They were the most grandiose, impressive, majestetic automobiles ever manufactured. These fabulous cars were introduced in 1929 and came with a 12.7-liter straight-8 power plant. The 2¾ ton monsters were 6.3 meters long or 20 ft 6 in for non-metric folks. Even the future Maybach -should it ever be produced- has to struggle to come close.
Posted 29 October 2001 - 10:03
Originally posted by Roger Clark
Le camion le plus vite du monde.
Posted 29 October 2001 - 10:51
Le camion le plus vite du monde.
Posted 29 October 2001 - 12:10
Originally posted by Patrick Italiano
"Les camions les plus rapides du monde" is a quote from Bugatti referred to the Le Mans winning Bentleys. I don't think a Royale to be any match for a racing Bentley![]()
Posted 29 October 2001 - 14:43
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Posted 23 October 2004 - 20:07
Originally posted by Lutz
Originally six Bugatti T41 "Royale" were build.
In some older books you can actually find stories about the "seventh" Royale. If you look at the history of one special T41, i.e. chassis no. 41100, it is easy to tell how these rumors developed.
The 41100 was the prototype T41, build in 1927. It had a slightly longer chassis than the other T41. This car has a somewhat confusing history of different bodys, today it is on display in Mulhouse and known as the "Coupe Napoleon", and it now has the short chassis, like the rest of them! It was one of the cars that Ettore Bugatti used himself until his death in 1947.
Here is in brief what chassis 41100 went through in its history:
At first the prototype had an open tourer body that was taken from a 1926 Packard, this version was called "Phaeton".
In 1928 this body was replaced by a two door, three seat, coupé, a horse-carriage inspired design, like many body designs by Ettore Bugatti at that time. This version was called the "Fiacre Coupe".
A third body replaced the previous one in just a few months time. It was a four door sedan, better proportioned to the long chassis, but still in the same style as the previous. It was very much a limousine version of the second body. It was called "4-door Berline".
In 1929 a new four window coupe body was fitted by Weymann of Paris, therefore known as the "Weymann coupe".
In 1931 41100 was badly damaged in a road accident (Supposedly Ettore Bugatti fell asleep at the wheel traveling from Paris to Mulhouse).
After the accident 41100 was rebuild by Ettores son Jean, then 21 or 22 years old. It is the one you can admire today in the Mulhouse museum. For some reason the car was called " Coupe Napoleon".
It is not sure whether a new chassis and engine were used for the "new" Royale, but it kept the same chassis number, 41100. This time the chassis is the "short" production version. This new 41100 might already have been under construction at the time of the accident, and merely been given the same chassis number as the damaged car.
About the Esders Royale, there was an original Royale fitted with that spectacular Jean Bugatti designed body. It was chassis no. 41111 and it was the first Royale to be sold, ordered by clothing manufacturer Armand Esders. The car was rebodied by Henri Binder of Paris, so it is known today as the "Coupe de Ville Binder". During WWII this car was lowered into the Paris Sewers and jacked up to avoid capture by the Germans. In 1999 Bugatti owner Volkswagen bought this car for about $4million.
The "Esders Royale" on display in the Mulhouse museum is, as Pascal alread wrote, was assembled mostly from original parts some years ago. This car would in fact be a "seventh" Royale, but since it was not build by Bugatti that one does not qualify.
Posted 23 October 2004 - 21:35
theshiftkeyisattheextremeleftorextremerightoftyhekeyboardintherowabovethespacebar!Originally posted by ray b
my best ever car spot a real royal
in the super subs parking lot
in miami on 8st [cali ocho] about 46 ave sw
back in 73 at first i thought no way itis a fake
but no it had 36 inch alloy wheels and the look only a bug has
and the real sounds of a big strait 8 DOHC monster
owned by Hennery N of miami springs a major collector/trader
wierd two tone paint black and yellow
wife bitched but i waited intill they came out
just hear it run and ask is it what i think it is
i guess thats the last time one will be seen as a daily driver.![]()
Posted 23 October 2004 - 21:42
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Posted 23 October 2004 - 23:20
Originally posted by Lutz
Originally six Bugatti T41 "Royale" were build.
In some older books you can actually find stories about the "seventh" Royale. If you look at the history of one special T41, i.e. chassis no. 41100, it is easy to tell how these rumors developed.
The 41100 was the prototype T41, build in 1927. It had a slightly longer chassis than the other T41. This car has a somewhat confusing history of different bodys, today it is on display in Mulhouse and known as the "Coupe Napoleon", and it now has the short chassis, like the rest of them! It was one of the cars that Ettore Bugatti used himself until his death in 1947.
Here is in brief what chassis 41100 went through in its history:
At first the prototype had an open tourer body that was taken from a 1926 Packard, this version was called "Phaeton".
In 1928 this body was replaced by a two door, three seat, coupé, a horse-carriage inspired design, like many body designs by Ettore Bugatti at that time. This version was called the "Fiacre Coupe".
A third body replaced the previous one in just a few months time. It was a four door sedan, better proportioned to the long chassis, but still in the same style as the previous. It was very much a limousine version of the second body. It was called "4-door Berline".
In 1929 a new four window coupe body was fitted by Weymann of Paris, therefore known as the "Weymann coupe".
In 1931 41100 was badly damaged in a road accident (Supposedly Ettore Bugatti fell asleep at the wheel traveling from Paris to Mulhouse).
After the accident 41100 was rebuild by Ettores son Jean, then 21 or 22 years old. It is the one you can admire today in the Mulhouse museum. For some reason the car was called " Coupe Napoleon".
It is not sure whether a new chassis and engine were used for the "new" Royale, but it kept the same chassis number, 41100. This time the chassis is the "short" production version. This new 41100 might already have been under construction at the time of the accident, and merely been given the same chassis number as the damaged car.
About the Esders Royale, there was an original Royale fitted with that spectacular Jean Bugatti designed body. It was chassis no. 41111 and it was the first Royale to be sold, ordered by clothing manufacturer Armand Esders. The car was rebodied by Henri Binder of Paris, so it is known today as the "Coupe de Ville Binder". During WWII this car was lowered into the Paris Sewers and jacked up to avoid capture by the Germans. In 1999 Bugatti owner Volkswagen bought this car for about $4million.
The "Esders Royale" on display in the Mulhouse museum is, as Pascal alread wrote, was assembled mostly from original parts some years ago. This car would in fact be a "seventh" Royale, but since it was not build by Bugatti that one does not qualify.
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Posted 28 October 2004 - 17:18
Originally posted by Arthur Anderson
Lutz,
Great reading! However, your accounting of the various Type 41 Royale's is missing an important car, the one that has resided in the Henry Ford Museum since the late 1940's. This one was fitted with what we in the US call a "Convertible Victoria" body. By most accounts this car was originally painted in a very, very dark (almost black) green, with a fairly bright green beltline molding, but when restored, the bodywork was painted a creamy white color, with dark green trim, in which form it stands today in the Henry Ford Museum at Dearborn, Michigan.
I don't know all the details of this car, of course, but it was imported into the US sometime in the 1930's, and more or less disappeared from public view, until it was discovered in an automobile scrapyard in 1943, more or less complete, but its engine missing it's carburetor and intake manifold. The person who "rescued" this car from a certain fate of providing scrap metal for the war effort (something which claimed many a Classic Car during WW-II) had a custom intake manifold built, with 4 downdraft carburetors, which I understand the car still has. Which chassis was this body style built on, in your references?
Art Anderson
Posted 29 October 2004 - 11:46
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Posted 29 October 2004 - 13:30
Originally posted by Doug Nye
Written for the vendor, but I remember driving the bolide with considerable (somewhat surprised) affection...
DCN
Posted 29 October 2004 - 13:36
Posted 29 October 2004 - 14:02
Originally posted by Arthur Anderson
It wasn't Chayne who was responsible for the famed "trademark" Buick portholes (legend has it that around GM, those were called "Mouseholes", but rather stylist Ned Nickles, who had worked on the 1949 Buick styling.
It seems that Nickles had an earlier Buick convertible, on which hood sides he'd installed 4 portholes each. Nickles then added a small light bulb in each, connected them to the ignition, so they'd flash in time with the sparkplugs. Reportedly, Harlow Curtice, then General Manager of Buick Division, saw them, liked them, and they were included in not only the '49 Buicks, but were a trim feature, in many and varying shapes, for the next 25 years or so (sans the flashing lights!).
Art
Posted 29 October 2004 - 14:20
Originally posted by Doug Nye
No - but it would be interesting.
DCN
Posted 30 October 2004 - 09:27
Originally posted by D-Type
theshiftkeyisattheextremeleftorextremerightoftyhekeyboardintherowabovethespacebar!
Posted 31 October 2004 - 16:22
Posted 31 October 2004 - 19:34
Originally posted by jgm
There was a Royale parked in the paddock at the Goodwood revival meeting. Was this the genuine article or Tom Wheatcroft's replica?
Posted 06 November 2004 - 21:13