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[David McKinney]

So it is quite possible that, like me, Archibald G F Nash was known by his third name, Fraser. However, he didn't actually change his name - as Wikipedia claims - from "Fraser Nash" to "Fraser-Nash" as he is clearly shown in the England & Wales Register of Deaths under 'N', not under 'F'.

This gent was known as Archie Frazer Nash, and whilst the cars remained Frazer Nash, with no hiphen, he changed his own surname to Frazer-Nash. This is recorded in many books, from which Wikipedia no doubt got their information - From Chain-Drive to Supercharger by Denis Jenkinson, for example, says he changed his name by deed poll in 1938. Perhaps the clerk registering his death made a mistake...

[Allen Brown]

Perhaps the clerk registering his death made a mistake...

Seriously?

[Tim Murray]

David Thirlby in The Chain-drive Frazer Nash quotes from a letter written by Frazer-Nash in 1955:

The family name of Frazer Nash was unhyphenated, but to avoid confusion my mother adopted it as a hyphenated name somewhere about 1905, which I did also, but used the name Nash alone with cars and commerce. For example, the original G.N. of course stood for Godfrey and Nash. After the 1914-18 war, I re-adopted the hyphen for myself but did not use it on the car. Some confusion arose over this in connection with foreign patents, and I finally legalised it by deed poll sometime before the 1939 war – I am not sure of the exact date, but it will be at Somerset House.

[Allen Brown]

Aha! Armed with that clue I found this in the London Gazette:

NOTICE is hereby given that by a deed poll dated the twenty-eighth day of January 1938 and duly enrolled in the Supreme Court of Judicature on the eleventh day of February 1938 I, ARCHIBALD GOODMAN FRAZER-NASH of "Ardua" 84, Kingston Hill in the county of Surrey Engineer a natural-born British subject renounced and abandoned the first name of Frazer and assumed the surname of Frazer in addition to the surname of Nash as from the 15th day of January, 1937.—Dated the 11th day of February 1938.
A. G. FRAZER-NASH, formerly known as A. G. Frazer Nash.

Source: THE LONDON GAZETTE, 22 FEBRUARY, 1938 page 1211

All changes of name by deed poll had to be listed in the London Gazette.

[Geoff E]

... he is clearly shown in the England & Wales Register of Deaths under 'N', not under 'F'.

I'm afraid you are mistaken - he appears under both NASH and FRAZER-NASH, this being the normal procedure for double-barrelled names.

Similarly, the birth registration in 1930 for a famous steerer of boats appears as both JONES and ARMSTRONG-JONES.

[David McKinney]

Interesting, Geoff

A trap for young players...

[Allen Brown]

You are quite right Geoff, so he is.

How about Murray Jamieson, Parry Thomas and Gordon England?

[Boniver]

L.G. Hornsted

or L.G. "Cupid" Hornsted

or Lydston Grandville Hornsted
he was Benz agent for Britian

born 1984 in russia +1939

Mercedes-Benz Archief Stuttgart

[arttidesco]

L.G. Hornsted

or L.G. "Cupid" Hornsted

or Lydston Grandville Hornsted
he was Benz agent for Britian

born 1984 in russia +1939

Mercedes-Benz Archief Stuttgart

Are you sure you do not mean 1884 ?

Appears to have been born in Moscow where his father was British Consul

[Geoff E]

Lydston Grandville Hornsted

He has signed the 1911 census form using the surname Hornstedt. His occupation given as "Motor driver mechanic & Tester" , Brompton Motor Co Ltd.

He married in 1907 as Hornstedt too.

His death in 1957 was registered as Hornsted.

His father was Russian by birth, naturalised British.

[Richard Jenkins]

Thanks, Jim!

First part of those whose birthdays I'm still looking for (with the info I have so far in brackets):
Hannelore Werner (1941?42?)

 

 

According to her Facebook page, Hannelore Werner Hennerici was born on the 17th January 1942.

 

Reinhard, maybe it's time for a new looking for birthdates thread and see if there's anything we can do.

Edited by Richard Jenkins, 10 November 2013 - 20:39.

[ReWind]

Bill Urquhart-Dykes died before April 9th 1981. That is the death date of his widow, whose home was in Cobham, Surrey.

His father, William Alston Dykes, an officer in the Cameronians, seems to have hailed originally from Hamilton in Scotland, but there also seems to be an Irish connection, as both Bill's mother and wife were from Dundalk. Assuming Bill was born the right side of the blanket, then his dob is after December 3rd 1896, which is when his parents married in Dundalk.

Edit: I think I've found him! But apparently on the wrong side of the blanket - August 13th 1896 in Hamilton.

The caveat is of course that this could be a younger brother of Bill's father - the Times birth announcement (17/8/1896) is unclear and says that the father of the infant was William Dykes of London. OTOH, the father of the December groom is described as William Alston Dykes of Hamilton.

William Urquhart Dykes was born on 04 September 1897 (source) in Ranikhet, Uttaranchal, India (source).

 

His obituary appeared in the April 1979 issue of "MotorSport". (Link)

 

It seems Urquhart was not part of his surname but his middle name. So it should be spelled Bill Urquhart Dykes instead of Urquhart-Dykes, shouldn't it?

Edited by ReWind, 01 June 2014 - 15:12.

[ReWind]

Reinhard, maybe it's time for a new looking for birthdates thread and see if there's anything we can do.

 

I shall try it in this thread.

The following ones passed away in the years since 2004. I would like to know their birth dates.

 

Antigua: Mike Tyrrell

Argentina: Osvaldo Ameal, Roberto Lamela Díaz, Oscar Marcolongo, Domingo Ochoteco, Gustavo Ramonda, Aurelio Santoro, Víctor Zucchini

Australia: Bob Annear, Lyn Archer, Eric Barnes, Alan Barrow, Jim Bayliss, Richard Bennett, Norm Bice, Helene Bittner, John Blanden, Warren Blomfield, Jack Bono, John Brooks, John Budgen, Doug Chivas, Kerry Cox, John Cummins, Bob Curran, John Davies, Brian Dunstan, Jon Evans, Ian Fergusson, Bert Flood, Bill Ford, Tom Galbraith, Tim Garratt, John Goasdoue, Noel Hall, Matt Harrison, Ron Haylen, Lloyd Hirst, Vic Hodson, Graham Howard, Ted Jordan, Bob Kennedy, Frank Kilfoyle, Dud Lambert, Terry Little, Neil Marsden, James McIntosh, Mike McIvor, Ken Mitchell, Butch Morley, Alan Munday, Lou Orton, Ray Price, George Reed, Bruce Rickard, Llynden Riethmuller, Barry Sharp, Mal Simpson, Graham Slater, John Stranger, Austin Tauranac, Anthony Trevean, Ron Uffindell, Ken Ward, Don Wright, John Youl

Austria: Hermann Bennier, Gunther Böhs, Josef Borka, Otto Burghart, Erich Degen, Herbert Nosek, Hans Siebert, Walter Totschnig

Belgium: Luc Bruneel, Pierre Ugeux

Brazil: Aryon Cornelsen, Fernando Croce, Robson Kölling, Carlos Proença, Robson Walther

Bulgaria: Georgi Karamatov, Jordan Milarov

Canada: Martin Chenhall, Ron Curties, Rudy Held, Tom Hnatiw, Fritz Hochreuter, Gary Hough, Leighton Irwin, Graham Jones, Doug Larson, Dave Lawrence, Phil LePan, Frank Levesque, Dan May, Monique Proulx, Corey Rudl, Nate Salter, Jack Sharpe, Bill Snowdon, Mike Stone, Tim Timms

Czech Republic: Stanislav Hajdušek, Dalibor Janek, Miroslav Kmeť, Zdenĕk Nĕmec, Karel Šimek, Vladimír Šnajdr

Denmark: Carl Bjarne Pedersen

Ecuador: Fausto Merello, Guillermo Ortega

France: Jean-Pierre Allain, Paul Archambeaud, Claude Barbe, Jean Belin, René Bellu, Pierre Bennehard, Roland Biancone, Jacques Bonnecarrère, „Casal“ (= Georges-Edouard de Cazalet), Joël Champs, Albert Chappe, Jacques Coche, Philippe Colonna, Christian Craff, Jacky Deborde, Jacky Dechaumel, Michel Deleuze, Bernard Duisit, Michel Fabre, Alain Franceschi, André Francisci, Bertrand Frémaux, Alain Gawski, Maurice Gélin, Pierre-Yves Gérard, René Goesel, Georges Gonnard, Guy Goutard, Jean-Pierre Hoursourigaray, Roger Jonquet, Serge Laurent, Michel Z. Lecomte, Jean-Claude Macchetto, Jimmy Mannessier, André Marcadier, Steeve Marcel, Yves Marchais, Raymond Marescot, Michel Meunier, Marc Mignotet, Sébastien Milan, Pierre Noblet, Jean Ortelli, Frédéric Passetemps, André Roman, Bernard de Saint-Auban, Alain Sanson, Jean-Claude Savoye, Grégory Serre, Annie Soisbault, Madeleine Souilhol, Roland Théau, Jean-Pierre Thibault, Roger Usclard, Thierry Vincent

Georgia: Guram Dgebuadze, Vladimir Glurdzhidze

Germany: Willi Bidinger, Ferdi Bökmann, Klaus Buhlmann, Willi Frenz, Theo Frick, Klaus Hesse, Herbert Hofmann, Jürgen Hug, Heinrich Hülbüsch, Herbert Hürter, Willy Huth, Ralf Kleinhenz, Raimund Kosar, Michael Krankenberg, Franz Kummetat, Albrecht Kußmaul, Günter Lambert, Dieter Lingen, Peter Linzen, Andreas Mäder, Hans-Dieter Mans, Peter Röbke, Hans Schuller, Elmar Sperber, Karl-Ludwig Weiß, Wolfgang Wilcke

Great Britain & Northern Ireland: Dizzy Addicott, John Allan, David Baker, Allan Barker, Barry Barnes, Bernard Baxter, Chas Beattie, Rodney Bloor, Tony Bodley, Cedric Brierley, Ralph Broad, Peter Cooper, Jack Cordingley, Peter Croft, John Dabbs, Brian Davies, Tony Davies, Denys Dobbie, Ken Emmett, Jim Endruweit, Jim Esau, Don Evans, Steve Fleck, Dave Gilbert, Andrew Goodfellow, Norman Greenway, Jon Gross, Adrian Hall, Reg Hargrave, Paul Harmer, John Hopwood, Doug Jennings, Will Johnston Jr., Liz Jones, Gerry Kinnane, Henry Koring, Ryan Lawford, David Leslie Sr., Graham Lewis, Phil Lloyd, Ray Lloyd, Frank Lockhart, Joe Lowrey, Tim May, Roy Mayne, Alan McKechnie, Martin Morris, Ian Moss, Ian Muir, Alan Newton, Jack Newton, Mick Noden, Ian Norris, Mike Panes, Reg Phillips, Richard Redgrave, Robin Noel Richards, David Robertson, Perry Roe, William Samengo-Turner, David Scotney, John Shanks, Tony Shaw, Alan Smith (photographer, d. 2008), Alan Smith (engine builder, d. 2011), Stuart Smith, Nigel Snowdon, Richard Speakman, Patrick Stephens, Nikki Stevens, Herbert Stilborn, David Stone, Eric Tobitt, Peter Wardle, Bernard White, Garry Whyte, David Williamson, Spike Winter, Douglas Wood, Barry Woodall

Greece: Ioánnis Andrikopoulos, Christos Douros, Kosta Kotitsas, Sotiris Koukidis, Giorgos Makris, George Moschous, Andreas Papatriantafyllou, Athanassios Tsilis, Giorgos Velis

Hongkong: Phillip Yau

Hungary: Tamás Frank

Ireland: Tony Colley, Thomas Maguire

Italy: Paolo Alessandrini, Antonio Bellentani, Alceste Bodini, Angelo Caffi, Salvatore Calascibetta, Adalberto Carello, Mario Casciaro, Giovanni Centenari, Mario Colucci, Marco Crosara, Fabio Donini, Salvatore Genovese, Gennaro Laudato, Pietro Laureati, Livio Lorenzelli, Rodolfo Mailander, Mario Moscatelli, Roberto Nosetto, Tony Padrone, Cesare Passoli, Umberto Pavesi, Pietro lo Piccolo, Pino Repetto, Rovigno Rimondi, Salvatore Ronca, Sebastiano Scamporlino, Francesco Scaramozzino, Dario Strukelj, Luigi Tabaton, „Tambauto“ (= Giuseppe Tambone), Pino Trivellato, Sandro Uberti, Federico Valeriani, Vittorio Venturi, Luciano Viaro

Japan: Tamotsu Futamura, Hiro Kaneda, Tomoji Kawano

Kenya: Peter Hughes, John Ngunjiri, Harbhajan Saimbi, Farakh Yusuf

Malta: Louis Manduca

Mexico: Víctor Jiménez

Morocco: Jean Deschazeaux

Netherlands: Kees van Grieken, Jaap Luyendijk, Ad den Teuling, Henk van Zalinge

New Zealand: Kim Austin, Dave Brown, Ian Gamble, Noel Goodwin, Stace Hopper, Pete Kerr, Barry Lee, Phil Ornstien, Nigel Roskilly, Euan Sarginson, Bill Shiels, Dorothy Smith, Ernie Sprague, Brian Tracey

Poland: Wojciech Cołoszyński, Wiesław Cygan, Edward Kinderman, Marek Kozłowski, Bartek Lewandowski, Wojciech Pepłowski, Marek Skrobot, Mieczysław Sochacki, Stanisław Wierzba

Portugal: António Barros, Nuno Silva

Russia: Jurij Andrejev, Vladimir Chernych, Emmanuil Lifshits, Yuri Semenchev, Lev Shugurov

Serbia: Milutin Gavrilović, „Mikison“ (= Petar Stanišić)

Slovakia: Peter Spústa

South Africa: Owen Ashley, Bevan Bertholdt, Colin Burford, Alan Domingo, Mike Domingo, Solly Domingo, Trevor Hulks, Johan Jacobs, Bill Scheepers, Harry van der Spuij, Fanie Viljoen

Spain: Miguel Ángel Castro, Jesús Cebeiro, Carlos Couto, Nono Domínguez, Emilio Fernández, Alberto González, Raúl de Léon, Cristian López, Omar Martín, José Pose, Luis Ramos, Cándido Rovira, José Ramón Santos, Manuel Trujillo

Sweden: Alf Andersson, Vinco Bercic, Jon Fast, Bertil Lundberg, Rolf Mellde

Switzerland: Charles Defrancesco, Ami Guichard, Michel Linder, Raynald Strickler, Ernst Zahnd

Turkey: Banu Ergin, Gürol Menderes

Ukraine: Vadim Reutsky

USA: Yogi Behr, Billy Bignotti, Shorty Burdette, Louis D’Amore, Deane Fountain, Ed Hoffman, Ed Hyder, Mondo Iavelli, Ronnie Kaplan, Keith Ludwig, George Martin, Midge Miller, Tom Payne, Cap Pidgeon, Frank Townsend, Wayne Weaver, Bryan Webb

Edited by ReWind, 08 August 2015 - 20:54.

[Richard Jenkins]

I shall try it in this thread.

The following ones passed away in the years since 2004. I would like to know their birth dates.

 

USA: Billy Bignotti,

Billy Bignotti b. 27 Feb 1956

 

I am sure I will find more but unfortunately haven't got more time at the moment, will dip in and out when I can.

[raceannouncer2003]

Ron Curties - March, 1930 - don't have the day.

 

Vince H.

[Richard Jenkins]

I shall try it in this thread.

The following ones passed away in the years since 2004. I would like to know their birth dates.

 

USA: Yogi Behr, Billy Bignotti, Shorty Burdette, Louis D’Amore, Deane Fountain, Ed Hoffman, Ed Hyder, Mondo Iavelli, Ronnie Kaplan, Keith Ludwig, George Martin, Midge Miller, Tom Payne, Cap Pidgeon, Frank Townsend, Wayne Weaver, Bryan Webb

 

Ronnie Kaplan b. 15 Dec 1926 (Source: SSDI)

[nexfast]

Not sure it helps at all but according to my notes Antonio Barros was born in 1934 and Wojciech Pepłowski in 1946. Sorry neither day nor month, I just use year of birth.

 

Greetings

[Michael Ferner]

For a driver of George Heath's stature and importance, very little appears to be known about him. Usually described simply as "an American living in Paris", sometimes more specifically Neuilly, nobody seems to even know where he came from - Higham's Guide to Motor Racing suggests he was born on Long Island, without being more specific, and without even a year of birth or death. John Glenn Printz listed him as "George Heath (1862-1943)", while Reinhard Windeler in an earlier post in this thread had him as "George Heath (1876 – 1955)", none of which leads to a useful obituary or other insight. The SSDI lists a George Heath of California with "last known residence" in Europe, but born 1884-08-30 he seems a bit too young for our man. I dunno if this helps, but The Wilkes-Barre Times of October 8, 1904, has this to say about the Vanderbilt Cup:
 

George H. Heath, winner, is a Philadelphian.

Edited by Michael Ferner, 09 December 2016 - 20:36.

[robert dick]

According to Motor World/October 1904 and Motor Age/October 1904 - published after Heath's victory in the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup,
George Heath was born of English parents in Astoria, Long Island, in 1862:



 

[Geoff E]

William Urquhart Dykes was born on 04 September 1897 (source) in Ranikhet, Uttaranchal, India (source).
 
His obituary appeared in the April 1979 issue of "MotorSport". (Link)
 
It seems Urquhart was not part of his surname but his middle name. So it should be spelled Bill Urquhart Dykes instead of Urquhart-Dykes, shouldn't it?

The Probate Index gives his date of death as 17 Jan 1979 (filed as DYKES) See https://probatesearc...e.gov.uk/#wills

[nexfast]

Thank you, Narcís! (Do you know whether César Apezteguía is still alive?)

Adam, Ken & Richie – the three of you can be trusted!
Why don’t you just post everything you have and save myself the trouble of asking?

It’s a pity that Jimmy Piget obviously left us some time since last August.
He should have been able to help with the French ones.
Unfortunately in most other countries nobody seems to care.
But nevertheless I’m encouraged to put up the next bunch of names (letters C – F).



Yvette Fontaine

In case you're still looking 3rd June1946, according to her own auto-biography.
 

[Michael Ferner]

This is bugging me no end! I was trying to ascertain whether Fridolin Wettstein is older than Marcel, and if at all possible find a DoB - no such luck, though I did find out an awful lot about the man: he's apparently the fourth of five children, after Otto (b. 1943-08-04, d. 2018-04-01), Anton and Elsbeth, and before Marcel (b. 1950-10-07); was raised (and probably born, too) in Fislisbach near Zürich, from where he moved to Romanshorn at Lake Constance in 1983 - there's even a dossier in the Staatsarchiv des Kantons Thurgau (Aktennummer 4'602'1211 from 1983, August 19) about his "Beschwerde gegen Gemeinderat Romanshorn betr. Wochenaufenthalterstatus", but alas, I can't access it. He still lives in Romanshorn, with his wife, the former Heidi Forrer, and his children Marco and Céline, engaging in race officiating and politics (FDP).

Now, can someone of our genealogy experts make a run out of this - it seems a shame to have come so far for nothing!

[ReWind]

Why not try to phone him?

[Michael Ferner]

Can't say I like cold calling, neither actively nor passively. Besides, there's a whole lot more I should want to know than merely his DoB, and I simply don't have the time to do this properly. If nobody's able to pick up the ball and make a run for it, that's okay, I just thought perhaps some of you guys have access to some data that us mere mortals don't, and the info I found could be of use instead of going to waste.


Mental note: it's "this far", not "so far" - the trouble of thinking German while writing Inglisch!

[Richard Jenkins]

Thank you, Valvert! Obviously you know your rallycross stuff.

Letters G - K:

GERMANY
Günther Hennerici, Heinz Hennerici,
 

 

Still - frustratingly, cannot find what day in 1924 both were born, but when reading this website about Marc, I saw HH died in 1987 - https://www.blick-ak...hte-383160.html for some reason I had him down as still alive. 

You probably have all this anyway, but if not.

Edited by Richard Jenkins, 29 July 2019 - 21:12.

[ReWind]

No, Richard, I had not.

But I asked Marc Hennerici and within minutes I got an answer saying that the twin brothers were born on 10 September 1924. Heinz Hennerici died on 01 January 1988.

[Richard Jenkins]

Ah perfect, Reinhard. Top work

[ReWind]

Can someone who happens to possess Gordon Kirby's book "Jim McGee - Crew Chief of Champions" tell me whether or not it contains McGee's full name and birth date?

[Allen Brown]

Can someone who happens to possess Gordon Kirby's book "Jim McGee - Crew Chief of Champions" tell me whether or not it contains McGee's full name and birth date?

 

James Joseph McGee, born 28 December 1937

[ReWind]

Many thanks, Allen!