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#301 fines

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 11:39

Dennis, would you mind telling us why you chose that username? I don't think I picked it up on the H.A.M.B. thread, as I haven't read all of its more than 5,000 posts :eek: For those of us interested, it can be found here: http://www.jalopyjou...ad.php?t=236178, and has had about half a million views already! :up:

Are you a Mark Light fan, Dennis? He used #9 quite frequently, must've been his favourite number. I don't suppose you own the #9 Dreyer Special that's in your H.A.M.B. avatar, do you? If so, I believe I know quite a bit about that particular car, but I am sure you could easily expand on that... :smoking:

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 11:57

Originally posted by fines
Something I managed to miss:


This is a red herring: up to and including the State Fair Milwaukee was still an IMCA track, which is probably also the reason for the high sanction number of the Champ Car event (Sep 22) - it was a late addition, after the track changed over to AAA.

I have nothing for August 6, but the following IMCA events at West Allis in 1946:
June 9: 1. Ben Musick (1937 Schrader/Offenhauser?), 2. Chick Smith, 3. Fritz Tegtmeier, etc. (this is the event where Eddie Nicholson was fatally injured - he died about two weeks later, does anyone have an exact date? He was driving the third Schrader Offy, built in 1939 or 1940 - does anyone know for sure?)
Aug 22? (State Fair Opener) 1. Emory Collins (1938? Collins/Offenhauser?), 2.? Ben Musick (1937 Schrader/Offenhauser?), etc.
Aug 24? (State Fair) etc.
Aug 26? (State Fair Closer) 1. Deb Snyder (1939? Schrader/Offenhauser???), etc.

Before I go on with the other two Horn cars, just a short note to correct an earlier post: Apparently, Gus Schrader ran only one car 1937 through 1941, not two, and the one I had identified as his "third Offy" was actually the 1937 car, heavily modified! Accordingly, the "1939? Schrader/Offenhauser" in the above post should read "1937 Schrader/Offenhauser", while the "1937 Schrader/Offenhauser?" driven by Ben Musick was actually the 1938 O'Day/Offenhauser!!! With me? :D

Also, meanwhile I have the date of June 22 for Eddie Nicholson's death.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 12:42

not used in 1946 (1)

This car was apparently built by...

Read on at http://www.oldracing...terprises-cars/

Edited by fines, 01 September 2009 - 15:04.


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Posted 21 April 2009 - 18:40

not used in 1946 (2)

Sadly, the history of this car is far from clear...

Read on at http://www.oldracing...terprises-cars/

Edited by fines, 01 September 2009 - 15:04.


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Posted 22 April 2009 - 00:40

Originally posted by fines
Dennis, would you mind telling us why you chose that username? I don't think I picked it up on the H.A.M.B. thread, as I haven't read all of its more than 5,000 posts :eek: For those of us interested, it can be found here: http://www.jalopyjou...ad.php?t=236178, and has had about half a million views already! :up:

Are you a Mark Light fan, Dennis? He used #9 quite frequently, must've been his favourite number. I don't suppose you own the #9 Dreyer Special that's in your H.A.M.B. avatar, do you? If so, I believe I know quite a
bit about that particular car, but I am sure you could easily expand on that... :smoking:

Fines, yes I was a big Lightie fan back in the 30's, 40's & 50's. I too wish I owned that Dreyer # 9 & if you have info on that car, please pass it along. I not quite sure why or how I liked him, my father liked him, I would see his car either on the road or @ certain service stations. I knew where he kept his cars in Lebanon & along with that, we would also pass the service station of Austin Shay, flagger for races in this area. So, a race car, drivers & related items from @ least 5 or 6 years old was my drug for the time. Oh, with my parents, I was @ the 1st race @ Wms. Grove in 1939. I have a pic of aerial view of W.G. that day which my dad cut from the paper & has our car marked in the parking lot. Thanks for asking, mlight9.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 09:05

Wow, a LONG-time follower of the sport! :up:

As for the #9 Dreyer, here's what (I think) I know about it: the car was apparently built by Floyd Dreyer in late 1946, although it may actually have been older than that, as Mark was said to drive an ex-Willman Dreyer (built ca. 1938) for Bud Sherk in 1945, and possibly early '46. Lightie apparently purchased that car, and I don't have any further info for it, so it is possible he rebuilt that one, though it doesn't look much like the car in question. Anyway, Mark ran the new (?) car for much of the 1947 season as the blue #9 "Dreyer", sometimes for other drivers when he himself got to drive better cars, like the original Leech Cracraft/Offenhauser, with which he won four races that year.

In early 1948, Lightie still ran the Dreyer, now a maroon and tan #5, until Jack McGrath crashed the Cracraft at Williams Grove in May, and the owner from West Virginia purchased the Dreyer chassis from Mark, mating it to his Offenhauser engine. After that, the car ran as the maroon and tan #5 "Cracraft Offy", with Light and Rex Mays each winning two races that year. Walt Brown drove it also, and perhaps other drivers as well. In the winter of 1948/49, it was rebuilt in California, and ran there for a time as an unpainted #1 with Mays driving again, and then as a blue #7 in the East, with Lee Wallard up. Mays drove it again at Williams Grove in June, where it threw a con-rod after winning the second heat, and that's the last info I have about the car.

This was a very nice and good looking car, well prepared and successful - I would be surprised if it hadn't any further history, but alas, so far I haven't found anything. :(

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 19:39

Addendum to the previous post: The Los Angeles Times reported on January 5 in 1936, in a preview for what would turn out to be the last ever Sprint Car race at the former Legion Ascot Speedway: "(Floyd) Roberts (...) will defy a jinx when he rides today in the cockpit of Russ Garnant's Glendale creation. The car is the one in which Harris Insinger met death at Oakland." So, apparently it wasn't scrapped after all, just like I was speculating! Roberts won that race, by the way, and so it's not entirely unimaginable that a photo record of that car exists, which would be the icing of the cake!
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More "news" about the "Garnant Miller"!

Russell Garnant apparently ran the car in ARA (American Racing Assoc.) events in California after Ascot closed in 1936, up until 1940 inclusive! The Oakland Tribune reported in August of that year that Russ entered driver "Rajo Jack" in his #5 "Garnant Miller Special" for the 500-mile race at Oakland, September 2 in 1940. That means, Horn can't have bought the car in '39 already (as per Fox), which explains why I couldn't find any trace of it in the Horn stable before '41 - and it also already had the #5 in 1940, which would tie in with Horn's apparent reluctance to invest in a new coat of paint for a newly purchased car (witness the Blauvelt/Haskell car in 1936)! :clap: :D

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Posted 15 September 2009 - 18:02

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This is taken from what Donald Davidson wrote about Bill Holland for the National Sprint Car Hall of Fame. It must be assumed that the 1946 title Davidson is referring to is the 1946 Eastern 'Big Car' Championship and not the 1946 National Championship.

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Posted 20 September 2009 - 03:27

Wow, a LONG-time follower of the sport! :up:

As for the #9 Dreyer, here's what (I think) I know about it: the car was apparently built by Floyd Dreyer in late 1946, although it may actually have been older than that, as Mark was said to drive an ex-Willman Dreyer (built ca. 1938) for Bud Sherk in 1945, and possibly early '46. Lightie apparently purchased that car, and I don't have any further info for it, so it is possible he rebuilt that one, though it doesn't look much like the car in question. Anyway, Mark ran the new (?) car for much of the 1947 season as the blue #9 "Dreyer", sometimes for other drivers when he himself got to drive better cars, like the original Leech Cracraft/Offenhauser, with which he won four races that year.

In early 1948, Lightie still ran the Dreyer, now a maroon and tan #5, until Jack McGrath crashed the Cracraft at Williams Grove in May, and the owner from West Virginia purchased the Dreyer chassis from Mark, mating it to his Offenhauser engine. After that, the car ran as the maroon and tan #5 "Cracraft Offy", with Light and Rex Mays each winning two races that year. Walt Brown drove it also, and perhaps other drivers as well. In the winter of 1948/49, it was rebuilt in California, and ran there for a time as an unpainted #1 with Mays driving again, and then as a blue #7 in the East, with Lee Wallard up. Mays drove it again at Williams Grove in June, where it threw a con-rod after winning the second heat, and that's the last info I have about the car.

This was a very nice and good looking car, well prepared and successful - I would be surprised if it hadn't any further history, but alas, so far I haven't found anything. :(


Michael, you're going to love this. Re the Leach Cracraft car, while @ Latimore (WGOT) in August, I happened to look thru the May 2008, Vol. 9 #15 issue of "Vintage Oval Racing". There was a pic of a car resembling the Cracraft car. As of that date, it said the car was owned by a Dave Martin in 1980. It stated he purchased a basket case of parts that was supposed to be the Cracraft car. He stated the car had been driven by M. Light & Rex Mays. So, I have no idea how much was left of the original but after 30 to 40 years, I can imagine not much. I think the pic was taken @ a vintage show out west, not sure. Possibly only way to contact him would be thru the magazine. I may tackle that possibility later in the year. It just goes to show you, you never know when you get a clue,
take care, mlight9.

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 14:23

Test, "black Book" style:

XII  READING INAUGURAL SWEEPSTAKES
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Reading Fairgrounds	   Several Heats, Final 25 laps	   Dirt Oval	   0.5 mile circuit	   26.05.1946


11 ¶  Joie Chitwood				   Fred A  Peters			  Cunningham 'SC-33'		   Offenhauser 207
12	Ted Horn					 Ted Horn Enterprises			  Horn 'SC-39'			  Offenhauser 207
13	Tommy Hinnershitz			Ted Horn Enterprises			Blauvelt 'SC-32'			Offenhauser 207
14	Walt Ader					Ted Horn Enterprises			 White  'SC-32'			 Offenhauser 207
15	Bill Holland					Ralph  Malamud			   Malamud  'SC-38'			Offenhauser 207
16	Lee Wallard					  Mark M Light				 Dreyer 'SC-39'					  Dreyer
17	Hank Rogers					   H Rakowski				  Light 'SC-38'.					  Dreyer
18	Danny Goss						  D Goss					Teter 'SC-40'.				  Miller 207
19	Charlie Breslin				   C Breslin.													  Cragar
20	George Rutty																					McDowell
21	Warren Bates																					  Cragar
22	Buster Warke																					McDowell
23	Dutch Culp						  G Culp														Cragar
24	Bob Cooney						W C Brown.													McDowell
25	Sam Greco						  S Greco.													   Cragar
26	Mike Bailey																					 McDowell
27	Ottis Stine																					 McDowell
28	Al Baker																							 Hal
29	Ducky Pehlman					 C  Pehlman														 Hal
30	Jim Boas						Russell Reeser													Cragar
31	Joe Verebly																					 McDowell
32	Bob Chronister				Clarence  Snavely.												  Cragar
33	Stan Jones																						Cragar
34	Shorty Dotter																					 Cragar
35	Tommy Mattson																					  Riley
36	Ed Zimmerman					 E Zimmerman.													  Riley
37	Ben Smorto					   Paul  Lyons.													  Riley
38	Al Fleming					   A I  Fleming														Hal
39	Bumpy Bumpus					   H Bumpus				   Bagley 'SC-36'					  Hal DO
40	Jimmy Fearick																						   
41	Jimmy Gibbons				  Frank  Donleavy.													 Hal.
42	Hank Gritzbach				   H  Gritzbach													 Hal DO
43	Cliff Helman																							
44	Bill Hoffman																							
45	Earl Johns					 Russell  Scheid.												   Riley.
46	Len Koenig																							  
47	Lucky Lux					 Dominick  Sarasta.													Hal.
48	Mike Magill					  C E  Magill.														   
49	Pete McKeone																							
50	Larry Smith																							 
51	Henry Steiger																						   
52	Ed Terry						 John Matera.				Ulesky  'SC-38'.					   Hal.
53	Lou Volk																								
54	Walt Walker																							 

¶  No Official Entry List or Starting Numbers available

Notes:				 16   dna, driver injured					   19   dnq
					   21   dns, too slow   [qt - 30.65"]			 22   dnq
					   25   dnq									   28   dnq
					   29   dnq									   30   dns, too slow   [qt - 32.10"]
					   32   dns, too slow   [qt - 31.40"]			 34   dnq
					   36   dns, too slow   [qt - 31.15"]			 37   dnq
					   40   dns, too slow   [qt - 30.67"]			 42   dns, too slow   [qt - 30.31"]
					   44   dns, too slow   [qt - 33.11"]			 47   dns, too slow   [qt - 31.32"]
					   48   dns, too slow   [qt - 33.19"]			 49   dns, too slow   [qt - 30.89"]

Reading continued its love affair with racing when a crowd of 25,000 welcomed the return of AAA competition to the "cradle" of the Eastern Circuit, and a matching entry was received. No less than 36 cars took a time trial, and it's interesting to note that the slowest of them all prompted the track announcer to talk of timing with a calendar, yet young Mike Magill would turn out to be one of the very few future Indianapolis 500 starters in the field. Those two who had already qualified for the Hoosier classic were, naturally, regarded as favourites for the event, along with the other three Offenhauser mounted drivers in the field, and Chitwood duly qualified fastest for the fourth time in a row, followed by Holland, Horn and Ader. Hinnershitz was a disappointing tenth for his hometown event, but made amends by finishing second in the first heat behind Chitwood, who had taken the lead as early as lap 3 to remain unbeaten so far in 1946 in heat races for the fastest qualifiers! Holland moved as quickly to the front in the next heat, which turned out to be very fortunate for him when the race was stopped due to rain. Race promoter Sam Nunis had to suffer for about an hour, then the sun returned and the programme continued with Horn taking the third heat, followed by a surprising Ed Terry holding off Hank Rogers for the final starting spot in the feature event.

For entertainment, Nunis had carded an "Australian Pursuit" race (won by Chitwood on the last lap) and a match race, in which Holland substituted for Chitwood, but lost out to Horn. True to form, Chitwood stormed away in the main event and led easily from Holland, Horn and Ader after the first lap, the latter two swopping places on the second. Chitwood continued to extend his lead until half distance, when his left rear tyre blew to spoil an otherwise perfect day, coinciding with his wedding anniversary incidentally. Holland inherited the lead, closely pursued by the two THE team mates (in the wrong order?!), but on lap 22 he fell foul of a slippery patch on the saturated track, and both Ader and Horn went by. Try as he might, the "boss" couldn't pass his employee during the remaining laps, and Ader won his second race for the year only six weeks after the first, and by about half a second. Holland finished a disappointed third, and Hinnershitz a distant fourth. Ader had also retaken the championship point lead, but with the upcoming 500 mile event this was hardly noteworthy!

HEAT 1

				  STARTING  GRID												  RESULTS

		  Culp					  Fleming				  1.  Chitwood		  10	 4'54.21"   61.18 mph
		 29.15"					  28.85"				  2.  Hinnershitz	   10
															 3.  Ader			  10
	   Hinnershitz					Goss				   4.  Fleming		   10
		 28.63"					  28.54"				  5.  Culp			  10

		  Ader					  Chitwood									RETIREMENTS
		 27.46"					  26.38"
																 Goss


													HEAT 2

				  STARTING  GRID												  RESULTS

		 Cooney					  Walker				  1.  Holland			5 ¶   2'55.11"   51.39 mph
		 29.16"					  28.85"				  2.  Walker			 5
															 3.  Johns			  5
		 Mattson					 Johns				   4.  Cooney			 5
		 28.68"					  28.54"				  5.  Mattson			5
															 6.  Rogers			 5
		 Rogers					  Holland
		 27.85"					  26.96"									 RETIREMENTS

																 none

¶  Race stopped after 5 of 10 laps due to rain


													HEAT 3
				  STARTING  GRID												  RESULTS

		 Steiger					 Smith				   1.  Horn			  10	 4'52.52"   61.53 mph
		 29.33"					  28.90"				  2.  Steiger		   10
															 3.  Smith			 10
		 Gibbons					 Bumpus				  4.  Volk			  10
		 28.78"					  28.56"
																				RETIREMENTS
		  Volk						Horn
		 28.52"					  27.05"					  Gibbons
																 Bumpus				 engine


											   CONSOLATION RACE

				  STARTING  GRID												  RESULTS

		 Terry					   Helman				  1.  Terry			 14	 6'56.61"   60.48 mph
		 29.43"					  29.39"				  2.  Rogers			14
															 3.  Cooney			14
		 Rutty					   Cooney				  4.  Gibbons		   14
		 29.35"					  29.16"				  5.  Volk			  14
															 6.  Rutty			 14
		  Culp					  Fleming				  7.  Fleming		   14
		 29.15"					  28.85"				  8.  Culp			  14

		 Gibbons					Mattson									 RETIREMENTS
		 28.78"					  28.68"
																 Helman
		  Volk					   Rogers					  Mattson
		 28.52"					  27.85"


											AUSTRALIAN PURSUIT RACE

				  STARTING  GRID												  RESULTS

		  Stine					  30.21"				  1.  Chitwood		  10	 4'51.34"   61.78 mph

		 Koenig					  30.04"									 WITHDRAWALS

		  Jones					  29.86"					  Stine			  9
																 Holland
		 Bailey					  29.77"					  Koenig
																 Jones
		 Verebly					 29.63"					  Bailey
																 Verebly
		 Cooney					  29.16"					  Cooney
																 Fleming
		 Fleming					 28.85"					  Gibbons
																 Volk
		 Gibbons					 28.78"					  Rogers

		  Volk					   28.52"

		 Rogers					  27.85"

		 Holland					 26.96"

		Chitwood					 26.38"


												  MATCH RACE

				  STARTING  GRID												  RESULTS

		 Holland					  Horn				   1.  Horn			   2	   55.02"   65.43 mph
		 26.96"					  27.05"				  2.  Holland			2

																				NON-STARTER

																 Chitwood


													FINAL

				  STARTING  GRID												  RESULTS

		Chitwood					 Holland				 1.  Ader			  25	12'00.83"   62.42 mph
		 26.38"					  26.96"				  2.  Horn			  25
															 3.  Holland		   25
		  Horn						Ader				   4.  Hinnershitz	   25
		 27.05"					  27.46"				  5.  Terry			 25
															 6.  Walker			25
		 Johns					 Hinnershitz
		 28.54"					  28.63"									 RETIREMENTS

		 Walker					  Smith					   Chitwood		  12   puncture
		 28.85"					  28.90"					  Johns
																 Smith
		 Steiger					 Terry					   Steiger
		 29.33"					  29.43"

Well, there is apparently no way to format this properly... :well:

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 18:58

Well, there is apparently no way to format this properly...

Yeah, that is one of the prices of the progress which is last year's new forum software. ):

May I suggest you print your carefully arranged tables, afterwards scan the printed sheets and show them here as images?
(Ausdrucken - ablichten - einstellen)

Edited by ReWind, 04 January 2010 - 18:59.


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Posted 04 January 2010 - 21:48

"Australian Pursuit Race"? :D

#313 Michael Ferner

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 22:10

Thanks for the suggestion, Reinhard, but I believe I will pass this one up. I dumped my printer several months ago, when it refused to print after not being used for two or three odd years! :lol: The Paperless Office, it came by default to me - how tf are you supposed to put new cartridges in your effing printer every time you use it!!!

Enny, an Australian Pursuit race is a fine USAmerican tradition in short track racing, originating around WW1: the cars are lined up in single file, with large gaps that often stretch the field out over a full lap. In "handicap order" (slowest car first), they are sent off, and every car that gets passed is out. The race ends after a predetermined number of laps, or if only one car is left running - whichever comes first, obviously!

I don't know where the name came from, but since it apparently started with the IMCA "showbiz" gang it was probably "imported by the Australian Champion Joe Bloggs", who really was from Hay Springs, Nebraska or Council Bluffs in Iowa! ;)

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 08:34

Enny, an Australian Pursuit race is a fine USAmerican tradition in short track racing, originating around WW1: the cars are lined up in single file, with large gaps that often stretch the field out over a full lap. In "handicap order" (slowest car first), they are sent off, and every car that gets passed is out. The race ends after a predetermined number of laps, or if only one car is left running - whichever comes first, obviously!

I don't know where the name came from, but since it apparently started with the IMCA "showbiz" gang it was probably "imported by the Australian Champion Joe Bloggs", who really was from Hay Springs, Nebraska or Council Bluffs in Iowa! ;)


The Australian Pursuit in US auto racing is older than that, as an event specifically named as an Australian Pursuit was held at Glenville, OH in 1902. The term comes from bicycle racing as far as I can work out, which was popular in the US at that time, and pursuit races are still done today in track cycling.

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 09:41

Thanks for that, Darren! :)

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 20:07

First, thanks Michael for your tables :up:

And thanks Darren for your reply. I figured it probably originated with cycling "pursuit" events.

In all my attending of short track races, I never once witnessed an "Australian Pursuit" race. Actually, when I was a kid, I still remember picking up a racing paper at the track (I believe National Speed Sport News) and seeing Australian Pursuit races listed in several results from the Midwest. I asked my dad what it was. He didn't know either. I do not recall any at southern California tracks in the 60's. I believe I've seen a few listed in northern California during the era, but the event was virtually unknown in the western U.S. by the 60's. There were occasional "novelty" races, usually in the jalopy or claimer classes, but even those weren't very common by the time I was going to races. The "Disc Jockey" race, an annual event featuring local radio personalities and "Powder Puff" races for women only, were about it, and those in stock cars.

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 20:22

Yes, Australian Pursuits were very rare in the East, too! It's mostly a Corn Belt thing, I believe. But, if I'm not very mistaken, they ran a few at Legion Ascot Speedway.

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 20:43

Are they genuinely "Australian", or was that tacked on to make them seem more exotic? I know that in 1920s and 1930s wrestling, tag team matches were called "Australian", even though there's nothing Aussie about them. After all, it was not likely someone from Australia would be around to gainsay the promoter...

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 17:22

It were not races in Pacific Coast?It was only CRA Championship this time there?

Possible not offtopic and possible contact to 1946:
I have a pussle to 1945 races-where and when were races this time?
I heard Williams Grove and some CSRA sanction races(e.g. where Harry Hutchinson died)


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#320 Michael Ferner

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 17:57

AAA did not sanction any Big Car races on the Pacific Coast until late 1948, and CRA only sanctioned Track Roadsters until the mid-fifties. Big Car races on the Pacific Coast were run in 1946 by the WRA (Southern California), ARA (Northern California) and possibly WARA or some other organisation in Oregon and Washington.

Also, AAA didn't sanction no races at all in 1945. Sam Nunis Speedways revived the old Hankinson Speedways circuit in late August, running under CSRA sanction since 1941. They ran about thirty races that year, from Vermont to the Carolinas. Frank Funk promoted a couple races each at Winchester and Jungle Park in Indiana, possibly unsanctioned. Currently, I don't know of any other Big Car races in 1945, but it's entirely possible that some small, local independent clubs ran races, too. Most bigger organisations, like IMCA, MDTRA, Penn-Jersey or Southern Tiers seem to have waited until 1946 to resume business.

EDIT: I just found in my records one IMCA meeting, at the Kansas State Fairgrounds in Hutchinson, so it's quite likely there were even more. A poor programme, even by IMCA standards, with two Midgets augmenting a field of five Big Cars. Emory Collins was the main event winner (Sep 17).

Edited by Michael Ferner, 17 September 2010 - 18:03.


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 17:59

Results of major AAA Big Car races in 1946 (20 miles or longer):

March 31, Lakewood Speedway, Atlanta (GA), 20 miles
1 Jimmy Wilburn (CA), 4.8 Wilburn=Morgan/Offenhauser 4, 14'28.11"
2 Ted Horn (CA), 3.4 Horn/Offenhauser 4
3 Joie Chitwood (TX), 3.4 Peters=Cunningham/Offenhauser 4
4 Bill Holland (PA), 3.4 Malamud/Offenhauser 4
5 Johnny Shackleford (OH), 3.4 Christie/Miller 4
6 n/a
FT Wilburn, 38.29"

May 5, New Jersey State Fairgrounds, Trenton (NJ), 20 miles
1 Joie Chitwood (TX), 3.4 Peters=Cunningham/Offenhauser 4, 15'02.01"
2 Ted Horn (CA), 3.4 Horn/Offenhauser
3 Walt Ader (NJ), 3.4 Horn=Garnant/Offenhauser 4
4 Eddie Zalucki (MI), 3.3 Iddings/Hal 4
5 Hank Rogers (NJ), 3.3 Hoppe=Teter/Hal 4
6 Larry Smith (NJ), n/a
FT Chitwood, 42.73"

May 30, New Jersey State Fairgrounds, Trenton (NJ), 20 miles
1 Johnny Shackleford (OH), 3.4 Nyquist=Cunningham/Offenhauser 4, 15'42.05"
2 Bill Holland (PA), 3.4 Malamud/Offenhauser 4
3 Walt Ader (NJ), 3.4 Horn=Garnant/Offenhauser 4
4 Bus Wilbert (IN), 3.4 Engle/Offenhauser 4
5 Eddie Zalucki (MI), 3.3 Iddings/Hal 4
6 Mike Bailey (NJ), n/a
FT Bob Sall (NJ), 3.4 Nyquist=Cunningham/Offenhauser 4, 43.03"

May 30, Indianapolis Motor Speedway, Speedway (IN), 500 miles
1 George Robson (CA), 2.9s Sparks-Thorne 6, 4:21'26.70"
2 Jimmy Jackson (IN), 4.2 Henning=Boyle/Offenhauser 4
3 Ted Horn (CA), 3.0s Henning=Maserati 8
4 Emil Andres (IL), 3.0s Brisko=Maserati 8
5 Sam Hanks (CA) [Joie Chitwood (TX)], 4.4 Peters=Moore/Offenhauser 4
6 Louis Durant (KS), 3.0s Marion=Alfa Romeo 8
FT Ralph Hepburn (CA), 3.0s Novi V8, 4'28.77" (4 laps)

June 2, Lakewood Speedway, Atlanta (GA), 25 miles
1 Ted Horn (CA), 3.4 Horn/Offenhauser 4, 19'29.41"
2 Walt Ader (NJ), 3.4 Horn=Garnant/Offenhauser 4
3 Bill Holland (PA), 3.4 Malamud/Offenhauser
4 Red Byron (AL), 3.3 Dreyer 4
5 Tommy Hinnershitz (PA), 3.4 Horn=Blauvelt/Offenhauser 4
6 Eddie Zalucki (MI), 3.3 Iddings/Hal 4
FT Horn, n/a

June 30, Langhorne Speedway, Langhorne (PA), 100 miles
1 Rex Mays (CA), 2.9s Bowes 8, 1:10'28.14"
2 George Robson (CA), 4.4 Corley=Moore/Offenhauser 4
3 Ted Horn (CA), 4.4 Peters=Moore/Offenhauser 4
4 Emil Andres (IL), 4.4 Andres=Sparks-Weirick/Offenhauser 4
5 Billy Devore (CA), 4.4 Schoof/Offenhauser 4
6 Buddie Rusch (FL), 4.4 Bardowski=LMN/Studebaker 8
FT Mays, 35.47"

July 4, Lakewood Speedway, Atlanta (GA), 20 miles
1 Ted Horn (CA), 3.4 Horn/Offenhauser 4, 14'08.0"
2 George Robson (CA), 3.4 Christie/Miller 4
3 Bill Holland (PA), 3.4 Malamud/Offenhauser 4
4 Tommy Hinnershitz (PA), 3.4 Horn=Blauvelt/Offenhauser 4
5 n/a
6 n/a
FT Holland, 41.51"

July 7, Lakewood Speedway, Atlanta (GA), 50 miles
1 Ted Horn (CA), 3.4 Horn/Offenhauser 4, 36'22.0"
2 Tommy Hinnershitz (PA), 3.4 Horn=Blauvelt/Offenhauser 4
3 Bill Holland (PA), 3.4 Malamud/Offenhauser 4
4 Duke Dinsmore (CA), 3.4 Johnston/Miller 4
5 Buddy Shuman (NC), n/a
6 n/a
FT George Robson (CA), 3.4 Christie/Miller 4, 41.59"

July 21, Langhorne Speedway, Langhorne (PA), 20 miles
1 George Robson (CA), 3.4 Sparks-Weirick/Offenhauser 4, 12'40.99"
2 Johnny Shackleford (OH), 4.4 Peters=Moore/Offenhauser 4
3 Bill Holland (PA), 3.4 Malamud/Offenhauser 4
4 Hank Rogers (NJ), 3.3 Matera=Ulesky/Hal 4
5 Tommy Hinnershitz (PA), 3.4 Horn=Blauvelt/Offenhauser 4
6 Lucky Lux (PA), n/a
FT Rex Mays (CA), 2.9s Bowes 8, 34.66"

August 11, Langhorne Speedway, Langhorne (PA), 20 miles
1 George Robson (CA), 3.4 Sparks-Weirick/Offenhauser 4, 12'20.54"
2 Walt Ader (NJ), 4.4 Peters=Moore/Offenhauser 4
3 Walt Brown (NY), 4.4 Rassey=Miller/Offenhauser 4
4 n/a
5 n/a
6 n/a
FT Robson, 35.94"

September 2, Lakewood Speedway, Atlanta (GA), 96 miles*
* stopped short of 100 miles (accident)
1 George Connor (CA), 4.4 Walsh/Offenhauser 4, no time
2 Steve Truchan (IN), 4.4 Chai=Marks/Offenhauser 4
3 Emil Andres (IL), 4.4 Andres=Sparks-Weirick/Offenhauser 4
4 Bud Bardowski (IN), 4.4 Bardowski=LMN/Studebaker 8
5 Joe Langley (IN), 2.3s Dixon/Clemons 4
6 Ted Horn (CA), 4.4 Peters=Moore/Offenhauser 4
FT Rex Mays (CA), 4.2 Palmer=Hartz/Offenhauser 4, 42.55"

September 15, Indiana State Fairgrounds, Indianapolis (IN), 100 miles
1 Rex Mays (CA), 2.9s Bowes 8, 1:16'03.43"
2 Mauri Rose (OH), 4.4 Lencki/Offenhauser 4
3 Emil Andres (IL), 4.4 Andres=Sparks-Weirick/Offenhauser 4
4 Ted Horn (CA), 4.4 Peters=Moore/Offenhauser 4
5 Tony Bettenhausen (IL), 4.4 Corley=Petillo/Offenhauser 4
6 Floyd Davis (IL), 4.4 Schoof/Offenhauser 4
FT Mays, 41.34"

September 22, Wisconsin State Fair Park, West Allis (WI), 100 miles
1 Rex Mays (CA), 2.9s Bowes 8, 1:10'44.57"
2 Ted Horn (CA), 4.4 Peters=Moore/Offenhauser 4
3 Emil Andres (IL), 4.4 Andres=Sparks-Weirick/Offenhauser 4
4 Duke Dinsmore (CA), 4.4 Schoof/Offenhauser 4
5 Charlie Rogers (MI), 4.2 Jewell/Hal
6 Mauri Rose (OH), 4.4 Lencki/Offenhauser 4
FT Mays, 39.69"

September 28, Lakewood Speedway, Atlanta (GA), 20 miles
1 Ted Horn (CA), 3.4 Horn/Offenhauser 4, n/a
2 n/a
3 n/a
4 n/a
5 n/a
6 n/a
FT Horn, n/a

September 29, New Jersey State Fairgrounds, Trenton (NJ), 20 miles
1 Joie Chitwood (TX), 3.4 Nyquist=Cunningham/Offenhauser 4, 14'55.25"
2 Bill Holland (PA), 3.4 Malamud/Offenhauser 4
3 Walt Ader (NJ), 3.4 Horn=Garnant/Offenhauser 4
4 Tommy Hinnershitz (PA), 3.4 Horn=Blauvelt/Offenhauser 4
5 Ottis Stine (PA), 3.3 Shelley=Hopf/Hal 4
6 Hank ROgers (NJ), n/a
FT Holland, 43.00"

October 5, Lakewood Speedway, Atlanta (GA), 20 miles
1 Bill Holland (PA), 3.4 Malamud/Offenhauser 4, n/a
2 n/a
3 n/a
4 n/a
5 n/a
6 n/a
FT Holland, n/a

October 6, Good Time Speedway, Goshen (NY), 100 miles
1 Tony Bettenhausen (IL), 4.4 Corley=Petillo/Offenhauser 4, 1:17'16.52"
2 Ted Horn (CA), 4.4 Peters=Moore/Offenhauser 4
3 Duke Dinsmore (CA), 4.4 Schoof/Offenhauser 4
4 Emil Andres (IL), 4.4 Andres=Sparks-Weirick/Offenhauser 4
5 Charlie Rogers (MI), 4.2 Jewell/Hal 4
6 Eddie Casterline (MA), 4.5 Olson/Voelker 6
FT Bettenhausen, 42.76"

October 6, Dayton Speedway, Dayton (OH), 27 miles
1 Hal Robson (CA), 3.4 Sparks-Weirick/Offenhauser 4, 21'15.53"
2 n/a
3 n/a
4 n/a
5 n/a
6 n/a
FT Johnny Shackleford (OH), n/a, n/a

October 27, Williams Grove Speedway, Mechanicsburg (PA), 25 miles
1 Bill Holland (PA), 3.4 Malamud/Offenhauser 4, 26'06.21"
2 Joie Chitwood (TX), 3.4 Nyquist=Cunningham/Offenhauser 4
3 Walt Ader (NJ), 3.4 Horn=Garnant/Offenhauser 4
4 Ted Horn (CA), 3.4 Horn/Offenhauser 4
5 Tommy Hinnershitz (PA), 3.4 Horn=Blauvelt/Offenhauser 4
6 n/a
FT Chitwood, 26.97"

#322 SprintCore

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 12:27

I have a list of AAA sanctioned numbers from 1946.I have a little mystery in this list:

 

6th August-Milwaukee Mile-Ted Horn won(it it true?)I didn't find any article about this event-and if I know in 1946 were IMCA sprint events at the Mile.

 

22nd Sept-Great Barrington-Joie Chitwood won,but no AAA number(Wasn't AAA event?)



#323 Michael Ferner

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 09:31

Great Barrington (Massachusetts) Sep 22 was a AAA event, promoted by Ted Nyquist, but I don't know the sanction number either. I'm pretty sure there was no racing at Milwaukee on Aug 6, a Tuesday. The State Fair (with IMCA races) started two weeks later. There were also IMCA meetings on Jun 9 and Jul 21, while the AAA returned to State Fair Park on Sep 22 (same date as Great Barrington).

#324 Vitesse2

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 09:53

Maybe the Milwaukee date should be Saturday June 8th? 6/8/46  ;)



#325 SprintCore

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 10:50

Great Barrington (Massachusetts) Sep 22 was a AAA event, promoted by Ted Nyquist, but I don't know the sanction number either. I'm pretty sure there was no racing at Milwaukee on Aug 6, a Tuesday. The State Fair (with IMCA races) started two weeks later. There were also IMCA meetings on Jun 9 and Jul 21, while the AAA returned to State Fair Park on Sep 22 (same date as Great Barrington).

 

This is my source-This document is AAA Sprint car Records 1946-1955-miss the Great Barrington event in this list

AAA_26.jpg



#326 Michael Ferner

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 19:04

Interesting list! My I enquire about its origins?

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 21:02

This is my source-This document is AAA Sprint car Records 1946-1955-miss the Great Barrington event in this list

AAA_26.jpg

 

 

Interesting list! My I enquire about its origins?

 

I have seen something similar to that in the Russ Catlin material in the Racemaker Archives of Joe Freeman in Boston. I probably have a similar copy buried somewhere in my files.

 

Update: Yes, I have something like it and other similar contemporary material from both the Catlin/Russo files and other research.


Edited by DCapps, 06 August 2016 - 01:52.


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Posted 17 August 2016 - 03:16

Seeking info for Mike Benton Sweepstakes results and entries.Can anybody help me? :wave:



#329 Michael Ferner

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Posted 17 August 2016 - 15:38

Results of major AAA Big Car races in 1946 (20 miles or longer):

March 31, Lakewood Speedway, Atlanta (GA), 20 miles
1 Jimmy Wilburn (CA), 4.8 Wilburn=Morgan/Offenhauser 4, 14'28.11"
2 Ted Horn (CA), 3.4 Horn/Offenhauser 4
3 Joie Chitwood (TX), 3.4 Peters=Cunningham/Offenhauser 4
4 Bill Holland (PA), 3.4 Malamud/Offenhauser 4
5 Johnny Shackleford (OH), 3.4 Christie/Miller 4
6 n/a
FT Wilburn, 38.29"


Do you mean this one? I don't have much more info than that: there was an 8-lap consy, won by Tommy Hinnershitz at the rather slow time of 8'54.21", probably due to an accident by Verden Morelock in his McDowell Special. Walt Ader finished second in that one, followed by George Yetter of Georgia and Joe Martin of Tennessee. Hinnershitz transfered to the main, and retired on lap 14 after losing a rear wheel, which flew into the crowd injuring a young spectator. No heat info, except for Chitwood possibly winning the fast heat. 34,362 spectators saw 14 cars start in the main. Wilburn, in his big Offy, established AAA track records over one and twenty laps, beating the marks of Duke Nalon (40.6" in a 3.5 Dreyer) and the late Billy Winn (14'44.3" in a 4.2 Miller), both set on July 3, 1938. Under unlimited CSRA rules, however, he had already established marks of 39.98" and 14'23.3" on October 29, 1939 in his then 5.2 Offenhauser. Both his AAA records were subsequently disallowed beacuse of the oversize engine, before the times were eventually beaten anyway by 3.6 Offies (37.80" by Hinnershitz on March 27, 1949, and 13'45.1" by Chitwood on November 9, 1947).