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#1 Enkei

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Posted 13 December 2001 - 22:04

Hi, I don't exactly know of this is the right place to post this but I'll hear it soon enough if it stands wrong here...

I'm interested in your collection of Formula One (or other raceseries) modelcars. I really don't have that much F1 models, to be honest with you I only have two Mclarens, one with West Livery :up: :up:

I would also like to know if there are people who know how to make dioramas (don't know if that word exists in English : ) For example dioramas like these two

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They're both Minichamps 1:43 scale, it's really hard to get a good result. Everything else is made by hand, the tyrewall is cut from a gardenhose, the tarmac is made from rough black paper.

My (modest) collection
-Minichamps mp4-16 West Mclaren Mercedes Mika Hakkinen 1:18 West Livery
-Hotwheels :| mp4-15 Team Mclaren Mercedes Mika Hakkinen 1:18 Mika Livery

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#2 MONTOYASPEED

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 00:37

My "collection":

1:18 Juan Pablo Montoya Reynard-Honda 1999 Signed (Road Course version)
1:18 Juan Pablo Montoya Reynard-Honda 1999 (Oval version)
1:18 Juan Pablo Montoya GForce-Oldsmobile 2000 (Indy 500 winner)
1:18 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW FW23 Race Version
1:43 Juan Pablo Montoya Reynard-Honda 1999 (Road Course version)
1:64 Juan Pablo Montoya Lola-Toyota 2000 (Road Course version)
1:18 Michael Schumacher Ferrari F1 2000 with #1
1:18 Heinz-Harald Frentzen Williams-Renault FW19
1:18 Gil de Ferran Reynard-Honda 1998 Signed (Oval version)
1:18 Adrian Fernandez Reynard-Honda 1999 Signed (Road Course version)

#3 Zeus

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 02:12

I used to assemble Tamyia 1/20th static kits. I have a '86 Williams (Mansell), '88 McLaren (Prost), '91 Tyrrell (Modena), '93 Benneton (Schumacher), '97 Ferrari (Schumacher) actually I never got around to finishing that one. I guess being grown up and all, I don't really have time to go all out with the detail like I want.

#4 doohanOK

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 02:17

1:18 Minichamps 1996 Jacques Villeneuve Williams-Renault
1:18 Minichamps 1990 Ayrton Senna McLaren-Honda

I'd certainly purchase more, but they aren't cheap!

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#5 swing

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 03:12

I have models and diecasts from quite a wide range of brands:

Minichamps (mostly 1:43)
A little note: they seems to be improving on different details in the past 2-3 seasons such as the drivers' decals and the rear view mirror since I guess Hotwheel now becomes kind of their competitor (Recently I purchased some Tobacco decals on the net for my Hotwheel F2000 and F2001, and they turn out much nicer :love: :up: )

Exoto (only in 1:18): the Lotus 72, Ferrari 312T4, Tyrell P34... which I think is the best model/diecast manufacture around... featuring photo-etched pieces and cloth material (seat belt) and I always love their ways of sculpting the driver (with see through/ working visor)...

Some other makers in the past also were very good: the Eidai Grip Technica from the 70s which features metallic wheel hubs, they have almost all the grid of F1 cars from the '77 season: I have 7 of them but still not able to find the 312T2...

The other labels I can only consider average: Quartzo (their details are good, however somhow affected by the poor QC and material in the production), Polistil, Bburago, Yaxon, Corgi...etc but some of these are more like Toy company so you can't compain too much, I suppose :cat: :)

#6 MN

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 04:01

Only 5 F1 medels I assembled so far.

Lotus 25 Coventry Climax (1:20 Tamiya)
Honda RA272 (1:24 Hasegawa)
Williams - Honda FW11 (1:20 Tamiya)
Lotus - Honda (1:20 Tamiya)
McLaren - Honda MP 4/4 (1:20 Tamiya)

#7 The Tiger

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 04:34

I collect all sorts of F1 stuff.
In my collection:

BBR Serie Oro Williams FW16 Renault, GP Brasile 1994, A. Senna - D. Hill No. 2. 1/43
Very nice with tobbaco decals.

BBR Serie Oro Ferrari 412 T1, GP Brasile 1994, J. Alesi 1/43
Very nice model with the airplane kind air intakes. The most beautiful F1 model Ferrari has ever built. Not that good on the track either.

Paul's Model Art, Michael Schumacher Collection, 1/12 Ferrari F310 1996

In my opinion BBR Models are uniquely the best 1/43 brand out there. Their precision and attention to detail are amazing. The paint work on the models is in my opinion better than my Porsche's job.

#8 Hunt the Shunt Fan

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 05:02

Tamiya is AWSOME!!! I have about all of their WW2 models. As for racing:

Tamiya 1960's Lotus
Tamiya 1960's Honda
Tamiya 1986 Williams
Tamiya 1987 Lotus
Tamiya 1988 McLaren
Tamiay 1989 Williams
Tamiya 1992 McLaren
Tamiya 1992 Benneton
Tamiya 1997 Ferrari
Tamiya 1998 McLaren
Tamiya 2000 Ferrari clear view

I recently ordered a Tamiya Renault 1/20 scale. I'm still waiting on it. I just finished a Tamiya Toyota World Rally Car. I have also done the Tamiya Toyota 24 Hours of Le Mans car. After the New Year comes I'm going to try and get the big Tamiya 1991 McLaren F1 car. I read that at one time it was going for up to $500.00 in Japan. I would love to see them do James Hunt Mclaren from 1976. As for dicast, I have a 2001 1/18 Jaguar and 1/18 Montoya Williams.

#9 Zawed

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 07:55

Diecasts
Benetton B196 Berger
Ligier JS 43 Panis
Jordan 197 Fisi
Ferrai 310B Irvine
Sauber C?? Frentzen
Sauber C?? De Cesaris
McLaren MP4/6 Berger

Kits
Leyton House Tamiya
Brabham BT52 Tamiya
McLaren MP5B Tamiya
Ferrari 89 Tamiya
Honda Ra163 Unassembled Tamiya
Lotus 77 Unassembled Tamiya

#10 Zeus

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 13:27

This place is a dream come true for anyone who likes Tamiya's F1 models:

http://www.f1specialties.com/

You many all thank me now. :D

#11 FW11B

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 13:34

I think I must have most of the Tamiya F1 models, some of the 1:12 ones are really great.

Recently I have discovered the delights of Tameo 1:43, the variety of kits produced in this scale are incredible, and the detail is quite breathtaking on such small cars.

#12 A3

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 13:39

FW11B, do you have the McLaren MP 4/6 1:12 too? God it's expensive, but beautiful.

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 13:51

Originally posted by A3
FW11B, do you have the McLaren MP 4/6 1:12 too? God it's expensive, but beautiful.


Yes, but the FW14B was more expensive :eek:
Just visited the above site - seems like I have missed out on quite a few ):

#14 tedmna

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 13:53

I model mostly aircraft and some armor, but have a large die-cast collection, mostly F1 but some sportscars.

Anyway, dioramas are fun and relatively easy to build. The structures--buildings, fences, etc.--are usually scratch-built (homemade) from stryrene sheet and tube. The ground features--tarmac, grass--are usually made using railroad modeling materials, such as RR ballast for tarmac and grass for grass! The hardest part are the figures, which require careful use of color and good dry-brushing technique.

There are a lot of good books on diorama building and figure painting available. Check your local modeling shop.

#15 tedmna

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 13:59

Enkei, I noticed you're from NL. You should check into books published by Verlinden, which is a Belgian company. They also make premade diorama and detailing components. Most are for armor and aircraft, but they may offer components for racing dioramas.

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 14:19

Originally posted by FW11B


Yes, but the FW14B was more expensive :eek:
Just visited the above site - seems like I have missed out on quite a few ):


Which one is more detailed? 'Cause the McLaren sell for $169 and the Williams for "only" $130.

#17 Enkei

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 14:21

Originally posted by tedmna
Enkei, I noticed you're from NL. You should check into books published by Verlinden, which is a Belgian company. They also make premade diorama and detailing components. Most are for armor and aircraft, but they may offer components for racing dioramas.


Thanx for the tip, it will be good use :up: :up:

#18 AgRacer

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 14:46

I have the MP4/6, FW14, and Ferrari 641 in 1/12th scale. I also have those perfect parts for the Ferrari from http://www.f1specialties.com.

I just finished a 1/20th MP4/7

http://ipmsgreatplai...Sean/Sean-1.JPG

http://ipmsgreatplai...od.com/id61.htm

and I'm working on a 1/20th F1-2000 and a Tameo 1/43 F1-2000

Check out Tameo's web site. They have some great stuff

http://www.tameokits.com

oops, that's it... :clap:

#19 Enkei

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 14:51

Originally posted by AgRacer
I have the MP4/6, FW14, and Ferrari 641 in 1/12th scale. I also have those perfect parts for the Ferrari from http://www.f1specialties.com.

I just finished a 1/20th MP4/7

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http://ipmsgreatplai...od.com/id61.htm

and I'm working on a 1/20th F1-2000 and a Tameo 1/43 F1-2000

Check out Tameo's web site. They have some great stuff

http://www.tameo.com


The first link is great, it's realy difficult to have each detail there.
The second link doesnt exist or it's just a wrong link :)

But thanx anyway

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#20 dutra

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 16:17

Well, I have a small collection:

1:43 Jean Paul Belmondo Pacific-Ilmor PR-01 of 1994. ONIX
1:43 Michael Schumacher Benetton- Ford B194 of 1994. ONIX
1:43 Tarso Marques Minardi-European PS-01 of 2001. MiniChamps
1:18 Heinz Harald Frentzen Sauber-Ford C-15 of 1996. MiniChamps
1:18 Damon Hill Williams-Renault FW-18 of 1996. MiniChamps
1:24 Michael Schumacher Ferrari F310 of 1996. Burago

A great place to buy these cars here in Brazil is Point Miniaturas.
http://www.pointminiaturas.com.br

#21 Vrba

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 18:01

Part of my 1/43 kit collection can be seen at http://www.farzadsf1...TML/000347.html

Hrvoje

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Posted 14 December 2001 - 19:32

Originally posted by Vrba
Part of my 1/43 kit collection can be seen at http://www.farzadsf1...TML/000347.html

Hrvoje


It' amaizing, just amaizing...CONGRATULATIONS!!! Vrba :up:

#23 Witt

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Posted 15 December 2001 - 00:02

Has anyone here got any Exoto die casts? My local hobby shop has just brought in almost one of each of the classic models, and i'm thinking of buying a 312T4 (number 12 of course!). However, it doesn't have the driver in it. I just checked out the website, and it appears as though the models without the driver are more expensive. Can anyone tell me why? I thought a model with the driver in it would be worth alot more. Anyway, my local hobby shop is selling it for $300 AUD (about $150 US), and from looking at the website, it seems a pretty good deal.

Comments anyone?

#24 webstop

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Posted 15 December 2001 - 00:58

Enthusiasts should check out this site: http://www.ne.jp/asa...art_w/e_top.htm
It is simply amazing.
Maybe I would built one of those.

#25 Enkei

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Posted 15 December 2001 - 09:48

:clap: Tahnx for the link :clap:

I think I'm gonna try it but I will probably not succeed :

#26 No27

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Posted 15 December 2001 - 18:20

1:18 Mario Andretti Lotus 79 by Polistill

#27 texfan

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Posted 15 December 2001 - 18:41

Enkei,it seems like we have the Hotwheels McClaren Diecast. I also have the Ferrari 2001 car. I just wish Hotwheels stop being so political correct and apply the tobacco sponsors. Which brings up the question,we know Ferrari masked out the Malboro sign in certain countries with the tobacco ban,what did McClaren do with West? They didn't put the driver's name on the cars did they?

I went to Speedgear to get my models,anyone know of a better diecast maker or company that sells them in the states?

#28 umma gumma

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Posted 15 December 2001 - 19:29

hey, you guys need to check out some slotcars....you can actually RACE them. way more fun :)


http://www.carrera-toys.de/index2.htm

http://www.scalextri...BrowseType=HTML

http://www.ninco.com/

there is another company called "fly" that make awesome cars, but damned if I can find their homepage :(

#29 Vrba

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Posted 15 December 2001 - 19:37

Originally posted by hook


It' amaizing, just amaizing...CONGRATULATIONS!!! Vrba :up:


Thank you, you're too generous with compliments.

Hrvoje

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Posted 15 December 2001 - 19:54

There is a guy in Japan that's doing a different kind of modeling. He's created them on sheets of paper that you print out and put together. Ne has several F1 models. They are a lot better than you might anticipate and they are free, fun, & easy. http://www.ne.jp/asa...dex/e_index.htm

#31 No27

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Posted 15 December 2001 - 20:36

Originally posted by tombr
There is a guy in Japan that's doing a different kind of modeling. He's created them on sheets of paper that you print out and put together. Ne has several F1 models. They are a lot better than you might anticipate and they are free, fun, & easy. http://www.ne.jp/asa...dex/e_index.htm


Really amazing origami! :up:

#32 Enkei

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Posted 15 December 2001 - 21:02

Originally posted by texfan
Enkei,it seems like we have the Hotwheels McClaren Diecast. I also have the Ferrari 2001 car. I just wish Hotwheels stop being so political correct and apply the tobacco sponsors. Which brings up the question,we know Ferrari masked out the Malboro sign in certain countries with the tobacco ban,what did McClaren do with West? They didn't put the driver's name on the cars did they?

I went to Speedgear to get my models,anyone know of a better diecast maker or company that sells them in the states?


Yes they did put the drivers names on the sidepods, rear and frontwing and on the helmets. It just says David on David's car and Mika on Mika's car (see photo's French GP) The reason why they do not apply tabacco and alcohol sponsor is because of the law. It's forbidden on one way or another. You can get tabacco sponsoring on your car by buying stickers or by buying a very expensive modelcar. So I got the West Mclaren Mercedes mp4/16 for 170 Dutch guilders while the non-tabacco version costs 130 Dutch guilders.

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Posted 12 November 2002 - 18:27

Part of my collection:

1:18 Senna's McLaren MP4/8:

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Jean Alesi getting a ride from Schumacher after jean won the 1995 Canadian GP, 1:18:

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Verstappen's A21, Canadian GP 2000 edition, 1:18:

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And just got this one, the Honda RA99 driven by Jos Verstappen, 1:43:

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Posted 12 November 2002 - 21:41

I have a tameo 1993 benetton.. however its never been built :( one day, i will get to it and do it justice, that is once :

I recently found a 1-18th scale renault re-20 heller plastic kit from the early 80s in a discount warehouse type shop on clearance for a LOT less than its worht. they dont actually sell models much, god knows how they came to have it. its now about 1% completed but its a long term project and I want to do a good job of it

is finished, then onto the tameo

Shaun

#35 JVRACER

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Posted 12 November 2002 - 21:48

Hey A3 , who is the manufacturer of those kits??? please respond . :confused: :confused:

#36 Zawed

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Posted 12 November 2002 - 21:55

Originally posted by JVRACER
Hey A3 , who is the manufacturer of those kits??? please respond . :confused: :confused:

They're Minichamp models. Great quality, probably the best you'll get in pre assembled F1 models for the money. Though they are getting more expensive these days.

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Posted 12 November 2002 - 22:01

'96 Williams - Villeneuve - 1:18 and 1:43
'97 Williams - Villeneuve - 1:18 on a presentation plaque (no 1:43 :mad: )
'98 Williams - Villeneuve - 1:18
'98 Ferrari - MS - no idea what size - 1:64??? I hide it at the back
'99 Williams - Ralf - 1:18, Alex Zanardi - 1:43
'00 Williams - Ralf - 1:43
'01 Williams - Ralf (show car) - 1:43, JPM (proper '01 car) - 1:43, another Ralf (very small, don't know the scale).

I got the '01 Ralf show car and the tiny '01 Ralf car free as a member of the Williams BMW supporters' club. :up:

Will be getting the '02 JPM in 1:43 for Xmas.

#38 Vrba

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Posted 12 November 2002 - 22:27

Gradually I expanded my collection so it now consists of following items (all in 1/43 unless otherwise noted) :

built:

Ferrari 246 1958 (SRC)
Ferrari 156 1961 (SRC)
Ferrari 312B3 Spazzaneve 1972 (Tron)
Ferrari 126C3 1983 (Tameo)
Ferrari 156-85 1985 (Tameo)
Ferrari F190 1990 (Tameo)
Ferrari F399 1999 (Tameo)
Ferrari F1-2000 (Tameo)
Ferrari F2001 (Tameo) - 1/24, incredible kit
Brabham BT52B 1983 (Tameo)
Mercedes W196 1955 (SRC)
Lotus 72C 1970 (SRC)
Lotus 79 1978 (Tameo)
Lotus 97T 1985 (Tameo)
Renault 8 Gordini 1964 (Provence Moulage)
Williams FW18 1996 (Tameo)

old kits (built 10 or so years ago) :

Williams FW11 1987 (Tamiya) - 1/20
Ferrari F189 (Tamiya) - 1/20
Lotus 99T (Tamiya) - 1/20
McLaren MP4/4 (Tamiya) - 1/20
Lotus 72D (Tamiya) - 1/12
(There are 1/12 1970 Ferrari 312B and 1/20 1998 McLaren MP4-13 Japanese Grand Prix by Tamiya waiting in the box but it seems I abandoned plastic models because I cannot make myself build any for many years now so it's questionable whether I'd ever build them. I find work with metal much more pleasant.)

currently building:

Lancia-Ferrari D50A Reims streamliner 1956 (Provence Moulage)
Ferrari F310 1996 (BBR)
Ferrari F300 1998 (BBR) - slightly on hold
Ferrari 312T 1975 (Tenariv)
Lotus 72E 1974 (SRC) - slightly on hold

waiting their turn in the boxes:

Brabham BT55 1986 (Tameo)
Benetton B190 1990 (Tameo)
Lotus 72D 1972 (SRC)
Lotus 72C 1970 (AMD) - 1/20 kit, somewhat below expectations
Brabham BT52 1983 (Hi-Fi)

die-casts:

Renault GP 1907 (Brumm)
Ferrari 125S 1947 (Brumm)
Ferrari 126C2 1982 (Brumm)


Tenariv Ferrari 312T is going through particularly strong modifications currently :-)
It may be noted that I'm mostly inclined to building Ferraris and, to a lesser extent, Lotuses (particularly type 72), that I have little interest in McLarens (maybe I'll build a M23 or MP4/2 one day) and not much more in Williamses (although I plan some in the future) and no interest at all in midfield or backmarker teams.
My goal is to build all the Ferraris (everyone who has visited Galleria Ferrari in Maranello must have noted a table with all F1 Ferraris in 1/43 scale displayed), other kits are here just to break the monotony :-))

As I see that my post with pics on Farzad's F1 Gallery is not available any more, I'll set up a new page with many new pics.

Hrvoje

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Posted 12 November 2002 - 22:48

I have built Tamiya 1:43 McLaren MP4-13 and some RC ailplanes from soarers to Helis :wave:

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#40 BuonoBruttoCattivo

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Posted 12 November 2002 - 23:39

:smoking:
I have a good F1 1/18 scale collection:
Exoto Ferraris: 312B Ickx, 312T4 Villeneuve, 641/2 Mansell.
Mattel Schumachers (all w/ Marlboro) F399, F2000, F2000 Rain Tyres, F2001 'Belgium', F2002.
PMA/Minichamps: F300 irvine, Lotus T99 Senna, MP4-6 Senna, C20 Raikkonen, Wills FW24 JPM, Toyota TF102 McNish, and smaller 1/43s Schumi B195 and Prost MP4/2C 'British GP'. :smoking:

#41 A3

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Posted 13 November 2002 - 11:26

Originally posted by JVRACER
Hey A3 , who is the manufacturer of those kits??? please respond . :confused: :confused:


Like Zawed said, Minichamps. To my surprise I see on their site that they've made a couple of 1/8th scale models? :confused:

Edit: They're making a shitload of 1/8th scale F1 models ! :eek: 1446,45 EUR a piece ! : http://www.kleinseri...ch/_1_8/n28.htm

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Posted 14 November 2002 - 15:42

I have:

*Ayrton Senna`s Williams FW16 from the Ayrton Senna Collection 1:18
*Juan Pablo Montoya Williams 2001 one Hot Wheels
*Juan Pablo Montoya`s Target 1999 (Road Circuits) 1:18 (you can take the top off and see the engine and something else which I dont know what it is at the front (steering or something)
*Crappy 1:24 hot wheels of Jordan, Jaguar, McLaren, Williams 2000
*A tiny but very cool Michael Schumacher Benetton from `95

Will soon be getting:
Michael Schumacher f2002 1:18 hot wheels
Juan Montoya 2002 williams 1:18 hot wheels
For just 23 pounds each! :D

#43 Jdcasas

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Posted 14 November 2002 - 16:02

There is a guy in Japan that's doing a different kind of modeling. He's created them on sheets of paper that you print out and put together. Ne has several F1 models. They are a lot better than you might anticipate and they are free, fun, & easy. http://www.ne.jp/asa...dex/e_index.htm



EASY? Looks pretty hard to me.