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[aportinga]

We have seen many many horrifying accidents I'm sure. Ayrton Senna's probably goes down as the worst for many of us because of the end result alone. That said however, it was certainly not the worst accident that I've seen by no means. That vote goes to...


1. Gerhard Berger (1989 - Imola). Straight off at Tamborelo - same accident as Senna's but Gerhard's Ferrari went straight in and caught on fire. Never before nor after had I been so concerned after an accident (remember Senna moved his head in 1994 after his car had already been motionless - thus giving the perception that he was still alive).

2. Rubens Barichello - Jordan 1994 at Imola on Saturday morning. I was amayzed at the accident - especially the way the car flew - level, through the air and nailed the retaining fence/tire wall with such an enormous impact.

Other mentions....

Michael Andretti (Brazil 1993).
Michael Schumacher (Imola 1995)


How bout you?

[BARnone]

Saw Villeneuve t-bone Ralfie at Montreal in 2000. Saw Villeneuve smack the tire barriers during practice at Montreal in 2001 - right in front of us. Verstappen crashed there during the race as well.

BARnone.

[Bjorn]

Monza, 10th of September 2000. The crash itself was horrible enough.. just when you thought it had all stopped, an Arrows came flying through the cloud of dust and slammed into Barrichello. Then watching the medics trying to revive poor Paolo Gislimberti.

Same in Australia this year. I seriously feared for Villeneuve's life as all we were shown on the telly was lots of dust and then Ralf running somewhere off, and the camera followed him for a while and then stopped before he arrived at the BAR. I imagined the worst of course, and seeing the actual crash in slow motion didn't actually help. The total incompetence of the commentators didn't help either, thankfully I had the AtlasF1 live commentary on so I got to know that both drivers were OK more than 20 minutes before the commentators on the telly mentioned it. And then when you thought everything was safe, the ambulance arrived, and drove around the track ever so slowly with Graham Beveridge on board...

Burti's accidents this year were also terrifying, especially the last one.

Others that come to mind right now would be the BARs at the top of Eau Rouge the other year, funny looking back, but at the time it was bloody scary...

There are probably many more...

[aportinga]

The track Marshals death should go without saying. However I forgot about the actual accident itself...perhaps because both JV & RS escaped shortly after their cars came to a halt. However the sound of JV's car hitting the retaining wall...hearing the actual engine rev so violently has to force one to take note. This was perhaps the most horrid and violent sounding accident I've ever heard for certain!

It's amayzing that I can remember 1989 but forget an accident that happened this season...WTF aportinga????;)

[wingsbgone]

Martin Brundle, Australia, 1995 (?). That looked VERY messy as his Jordan came completely apart at what looked like the cockpit (but turned out to be the bulkhead behind).

Martin Brundle, Monza, 1989 (?). Went a bit too wide at Paraboloica, into the outside barriers, and slide down the front straight on his lid.

de la Rosa, Monza, 2000. The dust made it look even worse, but seeing his Arrows cartwheeling through the secene, several seconds after the accident seemed to end did not look like it would turn out well.

Diniz, Brazil, 1998 (?). Simple incident, but tragic-looking consequences when his roll-hoop broke away.

You name the driver and year, Eau Rouge. Jacque has a few that were spectacular. And Zanardi had a bad one several years ago (Lotus) before the run-off area was improved. (actually, those were during practice, not seen live, so they really shouldn't count here, but...)

That's all that pop into the brain right now. The really sad thing is that these don't even come close the useless carnage seen in CART recently (Zanardi, Krosnoff, and Moore especially).

[StickShift]

F1 wise, the 2 most horrific looking were the 2 above. Melbourne '01 and Monza '00. As well, the potentially dangerous '98 crash at Nurburgring when Pedro Diniz's roll bar was ripped off when he flipped the Sauber at the start of the race. I'm still amzed at how he survived that crash.

As for all of motorsport. The Greg Moore crash at Fontana still takes the bottom of the valley.

[ninrodf]

I'm following F1 since last year, because i'm JPM fan, so I saw this year accidents (at least in live coverage) of course. But the worst accident I saw in live broadcasting was Gregg Moore's crash in Fontana, was so terrible, that people were watching that race with me feared the worst, one coul see his body being shaked like a puppet while the cockpit was flying away. It was imposible to survive in this crash. In same year Gonzalo Rodriguez died in Laguna Seca in an stupid but fatal accident.

[SeanValen]

There are many , but never gotten over Imola 94, the whole weekend, like one big dark invisable cloud on a fine looking weekend.
Rubens accident, shocking, but was ok
Roland on qualifying day (GP should never have went ahead)
then
Ayrton Senna

[ForzaF1]

There have been too many nasty ones to remember. The Berger one at Imola was awful with the fire, watching that I thought he was a gonner. The Brundle one at Monza was pretty horrible, but he got out quickly so that wasn't too bad. Burti at Spa this year was another when I thought the guy must be dead when I saw it. It was a very long 10-15 minutes before the first word that he was OK came through.

Its moments like that that make me question my enjoyment of motor racing. In 95 and even 96 I was not nearly as much of a fan of F1 as I was before (or am now).

[Toyoter]

I can't think of one F1 crash that I have seen personally that comes close to some of the carnage I've seen at the Indy 500. Gordon Smiley drilling the wall and getting decapitated was tough. IIRC, you could actually see his helmet rolling down the track into the infield with his head still in it.

[MONTOYASPEED]

With the biggest impact on my life:

Ayrton Senna - May 1st, 1994. Autodromo Enzo y Dino Ferrari, San Marino.

The most horrible:

Greg Moore - California Speedway, Fontana, California.

Originally posted by aportinga
2. Rubens Barichello - Jordan 1994 at Imola on Saturday morning. I was amayzed at the accident - especially the way the car flew - level, through the air and nailed the retaining fence/tire wall with such an enormous impact.

It was on Friday.

[Slyder]

May 1994

The most horrifying weekend I've ever witnessed, took the life of Roland Ratzenberger, and my hero Ayrton Senna

Jeff Krosnoff - 1996

Greg Moore - 1999

Gonzalo Rodriguez - 1999

[911]

Defintely, Imola '94 was a terrible, terrible weekend. My favorite driver was killed that weekend.

Gerhard's Imola accident in '89 was horrifying, too. Watching him sit there for quite a few seconds in the fire was terrifying. That goodness he came out of that one.

Fyi....I think people are getting Brundle mixed up w/ Derrick Warwick in the accident at Monza, 1990.

[JForce]

Originally posted by aportinga
The track Marshals death should go without saying. However I forgot about the actual accident itself...perhaps because both JV & RS escaped shortly after their cars came to a halt. However the sound of JV's car hitting the retaining wall...hearing the actual engine rev so violently has to force one to take note. This was perhaps the most horrid and violent sounding accident I've ever heard for certain!

It's amayzing that I can remember 1989 but forget an accident that happened this season...WTF aportinga????;)

I agree. The sound as JV's car hit the wall was amazing...does anyone have that video link that was posted not long after, showed inside views and outside vievs....possibly Bernievision.....i lost it, but be keen to get it again...horrific...

[Rob G]

1. Greg Moore at Fontana
2. Jeff Krosnoff at Toronto
3. Danny Ongais at Indy, 1981. How he could have possibly survived that is beyond me.

[Indian Chief]

One of the worst is de la Rosa's crash at Monza 2000.

It wasn't captured by tv cameras well, but I read his comments in an interview later on.

He was right behind Zonta's BAR at the approach to the second corner. Zonta noticed the yellow flags and slowed down, but PDLR couldn't see them (since he was blinded by the BAR). So he smashed into the back of Zonta and was launched into the air at a very high speed.

He then landed on Herbert's Jaguar and destroyed the rear end of the Jag. He was then launched into a multiple barrel roll as he went straight on at the corner.

Then he hit DC's McLaren and his car rolled end over end, and ended up upside down on Barrichello's Ferrari.:eek: If RB had tried to get out of his car a few seconds earlier, he could have been cut in half!

[Slyder]

Speaking of Derek Warwick, he had three huge accidents,

Mexico 1989
Monza 1990
Germany 1993

Which one was scarier?

I Think Germany 1993 was scarier since he dug it in the gravel, pretty deep

[Bruce]

The two worst accidents in terms of impact that I have seen were both in Indycar... In 1994 Jacques Villeneuve apparently ignored or missed a yellow flag situation and literally T-boned Hiro Matsushita's car at almost full speed at the Phoenix oval - Matsushita's car was broken in two and the engine was thrown about 7 metres in the air.... amazingly, no one was seriously injured...

The other horrible impact I have seen was the awful Indy race in Geramny last year with Tagliani and Zanardi...

I saw Senna die, Krosnoff die, Moore die, Paletti die, Berger's accident at Imola, which were all terible, and of course, the first four with far more dire results, but none of those accidents looked as horrible as the two I mentioned above....

[AdrianM]

Ayrton Senna @ San Marino
JV @ Melbourne 2001
Monza carnage in 2000
and Greg Moore's accident at Fontona. I will never forget watching the sports report to find out if Montoya won the CART title (the races are not live in Oz) and hearing the reporter say "Now this is a tragic story, Canadian Greg Moore died.........." The accident made me sick to my stomach

[StickShift]

I completly forgot about the Zanardi crash. that was bloody awful as well. The worst part of that were the images posted on the net afterwards. I knew they had the graphic content in them, but it was the human curiosity of those pictures that got the best of me. Right now, I can say I can regret viewing them. They still give me chills down my spine.

[LB]

Tom Pryce. no other contenders in F1, Moores is close.

[AdrianM]

I agree StickShift. I forgot to mention the Zanardi incident. The verocity of the crash was chilling and so sad

Tom Pryce. no other contenders in F1

I am glad I have not seen that one. By all reports people who have seen it regret seeing it for the rest of their lives.

[LB]

I don't regret seeing it, however it is horrific. One of my workmates was in the stand at Kylami at the time (age 10) so I knew exactly what happened and I could see the effect it had on him. It is something you have to be prepared for if you are going to see it.

Never seen the Smiley crash mentioned before, if anyone knows of an URL - PM me.

I bet I look like a right ghoul now.

[Mrv]

Alex Zanardi's accident. That was vicious.

[Pikachu Racing]

Jeff Andretti at Indy 92 - I still get a sick feeling each time I watch this crash. The turn 2 camera made the crash feels like it comes right out of the TV screen. He lost the rear wheel and he spins 360 smacking the wall head on. Suffered extensive damage to both of his legs and a concussion.

Tom Pryce - nothing but silence by the time he hits the marshall. The crash was incredibly shocking to watch. I never watch the crash ever again.

Stan Fox at Indy 95 - crashed head on (taking a few others) and the car disentigrated. All it was left was the tub.

Alessandro Zampedri, Eliseo Salazar, Roberto Guerrero at Indy 96 - Guerrero loses at turn 4 on the last lap, Zampedri runs into Guerrero and gets catapulted in the air. Salazar gets collected and goes over Zampedri who was still in the air. Zampedri broke both of his legs in the crash.

Jeff Krosnoff at Toronto (RIP Jeff; God rest your soul)

11 car fiery crash at IRL Atlanta

Airton Dare at Nashville

Blaise Alexander and Kerry Earnhardt at Charlotte (RIP Blaise; God rest his soul)

1993 Talledega - the usual multicar crash in a restrictor plate race; Jimmy Horton flies out of the track. Surprised he survived with just scratches and returned three weeks later. It was the reason why there's a chainlink fence.
Another wreck on the same race was the late Neil Bonnett flipping consider he had serious head injuries in a crash years before.

1998 Spa - DC lose and hear comes a chain reaction. Rossett still on the gas plows through the crash.

Alex Zanardi at Germany

Mark Martin in 1994 or 1995, can't remember the track - got involved in a wreck and he goes grass riding into the inside track walls. The camera was onboard his car and the impact was unbelievable.

[Ghostrider]

Greg Moore's deadly crash. I watched it on TV and knew immediately that he would die. I was just devastated and feel really nauseas. That was an extremely violent impact.

[Zoe]

Too many accidents! Most of those I remember have already been mentioned.

One is missing, though: Martin Donnelly who crashed so heavy with his Lotus in Jerez (1990?) that the car got apart and he landed, still strapped into the seat in the middle of the track. The seat was about the only part left from the car, and he survived the horrific crash only by a miracle and very fast and efficient work by Prof. Watkins. It finally ended his career and resulted in a track modification of Jerez. That was a terrible crash as well!

Zoe

[HP]

Gilles Villeneuve's deadly accident.

[Zawed]

On a live broadcast, the worst I've seen has to the 2000 Monza GP, and Burti's crash at Spa last year. I was horrified at Burti's crash, thought he would be lucky to get away with broken bones.

[Alfisti]

In F1 i think JV's this year at Melbourne wa sa huge one .... but Berger's was probably worse.

BY FAR THE WORST I have seen is Moore's though. I normally have total confidence in the car that the driver will walk away fine but with Moore I had that sick in the gut feeling he wasn't going to survive that. That was enormous.

[fifi]

Senna on TV
Australia 01 on TV
Monza 01

Spa 01 live with Burti and Irvine, although i never saw the accident, was at a different part of the track, was a scary moment trying to find out what was going on as the none of us could understand the commentary at the circuit and was calling home to find out info

[ebe]

Seen all races live on TV since Spa 87 with exception of Hungary 93. (and a lot of them since early 70s)

Worst accidents I remember:

- Kyalami 77, Tom Pryce

- Nürburgring 76, Lauda

- Zandvoort 73, Williamsson

others:
Imola 89, Berger
Spa 98 Start
Monza 00, Start
Melbourne 01, Villeneuve
Hockenheim 01 Start

[Beamer]

The most vivit memory is the first crash I consiously remember seeing: Donnely in his lotus at the friday session in Jerez 1990... It was actually the first time I tuned in to watch F1... From that day on I was deeply impressed with the sheer guts and craftmenship of a F1-driver, especially after seeing Senna's pool-position run a day later... HOOKED for life!

[The Kanisteri]

Worst: Tom Pryce (Kyalami)
2nd. Gilles Villeneuve (Spa)
3rd. Roland Ratzenberger (Imola)
4th. Ayrton Senna (Imola)
5th. Mika Häkkinen (Adelaide)

[smallgod]

It happened in 94
I'm not going to talk about it.

This thread gives me SUCH an uneasy feeling....
How many drivers have been sooo lucky. How many near misses. How many "just a bit earlier and..."s, how many wheels missing heads by inches, cars landing on other cars....

I can't help thinking that sooner or later...

And next time I won't start watching again after a few years off, next time is for keeps

[silver fan]

I'll disregard fatal accidents so as not to appear overly morbid......

- Andretti Brazil 93, if you see the film you'll wonder at the miracle that the car didn't end up in the grandstand at the end of the front straight.

- Zanardi Spa 93, there was bugger all run off at Eau Rouge in those days and he smacked the armco like a rocket, the fact that Senna came spinning in after arriving to quick and damn near cleaned up the marshels only made it worse.

- Hakkinen Adelaide 95, was there that year at the track we all feared he was dead.

- Hakkinen Spa 97, during practice he had a catastrophic rear suspension failure that sent him into the barriers. When the suspension failed at 300kph you would have sworn he had driven over a landmine the rear suspension appeared virtually to explode as it tore itself to pieces.

- Spa 98, the first corner multi car pile up, how nobody was killed in that owed as mutch to blind luck as it did to chassis integrity of the cars involved.

[Ravachol]

There are so many and I hate accidents so much. The ones I remember the most are :
[list=1]
[*]Ayrton Senna: I could not watch F1 untill the 96 season after that, I basically missed MS' first two championships. The only picture I remember of 94 after Imola was MS dedicating his WDC to Ayrton, saying that Ayrton was the one supposed to win it and he wished he had won it against Ayrton. F1 without him was not the same anymore. JV coming in 96 against now 2-times WDC MS motivated me again to watch F1 more regularly.
[*]Berger, when his car caught fire: the reaction at the time was incredible, my heart was pounding in my chest like crazy, and I was so relieved to see the marshalls act so swiftly. That was quite incredible and a very good work then.
[*]Niki Lauda at the Nurburgring, can't remember the year and did not see it live, but it was damn scary, with no marshalls to help immediatly.
[*]Monza pile up in 2000. I was at the track but at the entry of the parabolica (where Button went out at the restart) but did not see the first accident at Roggia, only on TV in the evening and that is when we learnt that someone died, not during the race itself. It was a sad end to a very exciting day.
[*]JV and Ralf in Oz last year. It was very impressive, cost the life of a marshal (even though the probability for such an accident is very low), but I was amazed that JV then jumped on a scooter and was driven away. He could have lost consciousness then and hurt himself even more. I once had a bike accident and fell unconscious for 24 hours 5 minutes after the fall. Had I been back on my bike at the time, it would have been much worse.
[*]Zanardi: what to say? The front end of the car was just gone. I wish the other car had hit the rear end instead. What a lesson of courage by Alex, unbelievable, great man.
[/list=1]
The list is very long as I said. I remember a few CART accidents that looked very very bad, but I don't know the details of the names of drivers and tracks. Does anyone remember the guy in a crazy race last year in CART and he went into a wall on his right-hand side, in a left fast corner under a bridge, and it was so long for the marshals to get him out. He came out safe, but I thought he was dead at the time or he would be paralysed forever.

[stevew]

Worst F1: Gilles Villeneuve. (the way that car came apart)

Worst Ever: Gordon Smiley. (total destruction of the car, the actual track suface had to be repaired)

[tifosi]

Worse I've seen in Formual One was Gerhard Berger's crash at Imola, simply looked horrible, fortunately it didnt turn out as bad. Senna's on the other hand didn't initially seem that bad, I remember it clearly, and at first I thought "Oh well Senna's gone, good chance for Ferrari, it was only later that I realized how bad it was.

The worse accident I have ever seen by far in a racing car was Swede Savage at Indy, I think in the early 70's. If you want to really see something horrible have a look at that.

Of course going back before, Mercedes flying into the crowd at Lemans is probably Number One.

Worse crash from me in 2001, (remember Im talking about what LOOKED bad), was Burti and Irvine at Spa. I felt certain Burti was hurt critically if not killed in that. Of course it turned oout to be nothing.

Just to lighten the mood, since this one turned out OK, but the most hilarious crash, was whoever that was that ended up on top of Nigel Mansell at Indy UNDER A CAUTION FLAG!!!!!!!!!. Now that was strange.

[stevew]

Just to lighten the mood, since this one turned out OK, but the most hilarious crash, was whoever that was that ended up on top of Nigel Mansell at Indy UNDER A CAUTION FLAG!!!!!!!!!. Now that was strange.

This one turned out OK, too.

There was a similar accident at the CART race at Road America a few years ago when a driver (Herta?) spun off the track going into a tight left-hander and ended up facing the wrong way. Another driver lost it under braking, and the cars hit head-on, with the second car literally landing on top of the first. The driver underneath couldn't get out of his car until the other had been removed.

[biercemountain]

Originally posted by StickShift
As for all of motorsport. The Greg Moore crash at Fontana still takes the bottom of the valley.

I'll never forget watching Greg Moore crash (God rest his soul). It was by far the most brutal, savage, ferocious motorsport accident I have ever seen. I almost stopped watching auto racing because of it.

It's wierd, I still have the tape of that race but will never watch it again but I won't throw it away either. It's kind of like a memorial to Greg. I thought he had the makings of a Champion.


As for F1, the pile up at the start of Spa a few years ago was like watching a train wreck. It's amazing no one got seriously injured. I have only been following F1 since 97 so Burti's crash at Spa this year is the crash where I was most concerned about the safety of the driver.

I must also mention Alex Wurz flipping through the sand trap at Canada a few years back. To see him get out of the car and jog back to his backup ride made me understand the different attitudes towards safety in F1 vs. CART. I don't think a CART driver who suffered such a massive shunt would have been allowed to restart without visiting the medical station. I'm not saying either attitude is better I'm just pointing out the different priorities in the two series.

F1=The show must go on, drivers are paid to take risks
CART=Driver safety first, the show can wait

[carnika]

I got the Tom Pryce accident on mpeg. It's pretty graphic. You can hear the impact of the fire extinguisher against his helmet and see the the fire marshall's torn body summersault several times in the air in slow motion. Nothing beats that for sheer horror. I also got the mpeg of Gilles flying through air as his Ferrari disintigrated.

[Rediscoveryx]

I suppose you can divide these accidents into two groups: Those that you've seen live (on location or in front of the TV), and those that you've seen after the event.

Personally I'm lucky enough never to have witnessed a fatality of a driver in a live motor race, excluding a Roadracing 250cc race at Hockenheim at around 1989-1990. There was a crash in the stadium section and one of the pilots was tragically killed, does anyone know more about this incident?

I somehow managed to miss Senna/Ratzenberger as well as Greg Moore's and Jeff Krosnoff's crashes live.

The worst crash I've seen live was Gerhard Berger's crash at Imola in 1989. Those 16 seconds he was engulfed in flames seemed like 16 years, and it took a long while before any news came around about his condition.

Another crash that looked really bad at the time was Ukyo Katayama's startline crash at Estoril in 1995 wher he flipped and barrell-rolled several times down the main straight before coming to a rest upside down.

Also, the Zanardi/Tagliani crash was horrifying. It really shocked me.

The startline crashes at Monza 2000 and Spa 1998 were chilling in the same way; just when you thought the crash was over, De La Rosa/Rosset came tearing down through the debris.


Other than those, I'd definately rate Tom Pryce hitting a fire marshall as the most gruesome piece of footage I have ever seen, not just limited to motor racing (though the 'sound' of the extinguisher hitting Pryce has been added to the clip that's available on-line).

David Purley trying in vain to rescue Roger Williamson at Zandvoort 1973 is heart-breaking...

Greg Moore at Fontana and Gilles Villeneuve at Zolder would be the most graphically violent crashes I've seen.


There are tons of other crashes that are just horrible to watch, Lorenzo Bandini receiving lethal burns at Monaco 1967, Siegfried Stohr hitting his teammates mechanic at Zolder in 1981...

Crashes that I have not seen, but seem to be extremely awful indeed are Gordon Smiley at Indy 1982 (?), Didier Pironi at Hockenheim 1982, Francois Cevert at Watkins Glen 1973 and Peter Revson at Kyalami 1974.

[MattPete]

I don't remember the year, but the crash in which Martin Donelly, driving the yellow Camel Lotus, was left in the middle of the track still strapped to his seat.

[Ali_G]

Without a doubt, Tom Pryces accident was the most horrific in motor racing history. I didn't see it live but I did see on the internet. Only look at if you have a strong stomach. Its really is that bad.

Greg Moore and Kroznoff's crashes also come to mind. Kroznoff's being absolutely horrific.

Niall

[RaoulDuke]

Most vicious accident on video would have to be Gilles Villeneuves.

The worst accident I witnessed live would have to be Stan Fox's on the first lap of the 95 Indy 500. I was at this race, in the first turn and saw the whole thing happen. You could literally hear his car crack. It's amazing he lived through this accident. He had a limp and he was, to put it delicately, touched. Story and picture in link below. FYI...This was the start of the Indy 500 that Jacques Villeneuve won.

I actually have a picture of this accident autographed by Stan with the salutation of "Chris, All I can say is oops". The picture was purchased and autographed in 2000 while attending the USGP.

I've been to Indy more times than can remember cause, yes...I'm from Indiana (I live in Chicago now, so give me some slack ). Anyway I was at the track either Friday or Saturday and the group I was with needed to find a restroom. We were near the Track Museum and decided to duck into there to find relief. To make a long story longer, after relief was found, we headed up to the Track Photo Archive/Store on the second floor to look around. There stood Stan selling autographs and posing for pictures. He was selling autographs to benefit research on head related injuries, and just having a good time joking around, playing grab-ass w/the women...lol.

IT was funny to watch GP visitors from other nations who didn't really follow USAC or CART in the Photo Gallery. They were examining the pictures of Stan's accident hanging on the wall only to learn that the person involved in this horrific accident was standing less than 10 feet away. When they discovered Stan standing there, jaws were dropping.

The sad end to this story is that Stan was killed in 2000 in a two car accident in either Australia or New Zealand in a MiniVan.

May Stan RIP.


CNNSI article on Stan Fox

cts

[Breadmaster]

I've not seen Smiley's crash so i'm voting for Tom Pryce - truly horrific.

[Kaiser]

Originally posted by Slyder


Jeff Krosnoff - 1996

Greg Moore - 1999

Both horrible crashes. I had a terrible feeling watching both crashes that both drivers were injured very badly.

Just thinking about the pictures of Moore's crash makes me shudder. No way should Champ cars be running on those superspeedways.

[Rediscoveryx]

I hope you'll forgive a "morbid" request, but does anyone have a link to an article or any information on what happened to Gordon Smiley?

[LB]

I can't find a link to the smiley crash anywhere - probably thankfully.

filling in a few gaps

Tifosi - Dennis Vitolo landed on Mansell

Ravachol - Lauda was 1976 Nurburgring

Rediscovery - The Mechanic Stohr hit actually survived albeit with broken legs