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[Falcadore]

In todays issue of..... well it wa an Australian mag I'm not terribly fond of, but I have heard the rumour somewhere else as well, the mysterious enduro date on PROCAR's 2002 calendar has become a Bathurst 24 Hour.

BATHURST 24 HOUR!!!!

Omigodomigodomigodomigod....

The rumoured proposal put forward by PROCAR is for an international class 24 hour event to be held at the fabled Mount Panorama event.

PROCAR presently manages seven classes of racing car with an interest in an eighth, being Nations Cup, GT-Performance, GT-Production Class B, C, D & E, V8Brute Utes with an interest in Formula 3.

The eight classes for the 24 Hour would be the six of PROCARs classes with two international classes.

The lead class would be Nations Cup, although an alterred Nations Cup to allow cars to arrive internationally from GT and/or GTS class international sports cars, with the Japanese GT class also targetted.
This class could feature, Dodge Viper ALMS GTS spec, Ferrari 360 Michelotto, Ford Mustang, Holden Monaro, Honda NSX, Lamborghini Diablo GTR, Nissan Skyline GTR, Porsche 996 Supercup & Toyota Supra. Possibly even cars as extreme as Saleen S7R.

Global Touring Cars, formerly GT-Performance Class A, features production spec cars like HSV Clubsport R8, Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI, Nissan 200SX Spec-R & Subaru Impreza WRX STi.

GT-Performance Class B, also prodction based, baed on cars like, BMW 323i, Honda Integra Type-R, Mazda MX5, Toyota Celica VVTL & Toyota MR2 Bathurst.

GT-Production Class C, 8 cylinder production cars, Ford Falcon XR8, Holden Commodore SS.

GT-Production Class D, 6 cylinder production cars, Ford Falcon XR6, Holden Commodore S, Mazda 626, Mitsubishi Magna Sports & Toyota Camry CSi

GT-Production Class E, 4 cylinder production cars, Holden Astra, Holden Vectra, Hyundai Excel, Proton M21, Proton Satria GTi, Suzuki Swift GTi

International Group N and Schedule S, the New Zealand Touring Car class are speculated as the two international classes.

Don't it just make your mouth water......

[Alfisti]

OOOhhhh baby .... will MS news be running a story???? If so when?? I will be out of the country ont he 10th .... I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT HTIS. PM me with any details please.

Those Jap cars .... they're like 650HP monsters aren't they???? Or the lower tuned 450HP jobbies??

[iconic]

i think the class gt i think of the japanese touring series is the detuned, and the premier one is the 650.. that right?

sounds friggen awesome. back to the good old days of james hardie 12 hour. was that held at batharst? i was only like 12 or so when they ran.. the mazda's always won right?

[Melbourne Park]

Originally posted by iconic
i think the class gt i think of the japanese touring series is the detuned, and the premier one is the 650.. that right?

sounds friggen awesome. back to the good old days of james hardie 12 hour. was that held at batharst? i was only like 12 or so when they ran.. the mazda's always won right?

Yes the Mazdas won.

24 hours would be unbelievable.

I wonder, would they be allowed to fit Roo bars at dusk and dawn?

There's a big difference in reliability between 24 hours and 12. Also brakes and fuel consumption become more significant issues.

It would be the greatest.

[Darren]

Skyline at night... McPhillamy during a dewy dawn... The Cutting at twilight with a bunch of Swifts about to pounded by a Viper...

Book me a ticket.

[Jhope]

Well now that Australia has gotten drunk and has ended up right smack next to Canada, I'll drive down to see this race.

[AdrianM]

[Alfisti]

Originally posted by Jhope
Well now that Australia has gotten drunk and has ended up right smack next to Canada, I'll drive down to see this race.

Do you know the track??

[markzed]

Race cars + wildlife don't mix, so it would be an exciting event to watch.

Shame the goverment doesn't get off it's arse and help put some money into the facilities there.

How about the 2008 Australian GP at Mt Panorama? Would it work?

[iconic]

i dont think it would, i guess the faciliaties of mt paraonma arent very good, also the yobbo crowd will be pissed off

[AdrianM]

also the yobbo crowd will be pissed off

Wheres Lowndsie in the ****in' Ford? - fat yobbo in singlet and thongs clutching his VB

[Jhope]

Originally posted by Alfisti


Do you know the track??

Yes. I rocking it hard on GPL and dominated it on GP2. It's the best track in the world.

[Melbourne Park]

Originally posted by markzed
Race cars + wildlife don't mix, so it would be an exciting event to watch.

Shame the goverment doesn't get off it's arse and help put some money into the facilities there.

How about the 2008 Australian GP at Mt Panorama? Would it work?

• In recent races there wallabies have crossed the track in front of cars; no accidents though. But at dusk the roos come out, and heaps of insects as well I'd bet; they'd have to put insect screens on the cars. After a while the roos dissappear, and the insects quieten down.

Would a GP work? It would have back when the 'Ring was legal. It resembles a mini 'Ring. There are some curvy bits, some tight, and for F1, I think they would say its somewhat unsafe. There's also a very very long straight. It 6.2km long I think. Aussies reckon its the best track in the world. Where Philip Island outside of Melbourne is a good bike track, Bathurst in New South Wales a few hours from Sydney is the best car track in the world, as long as one doesn't get caught up in details, like safety and such.

Sometimes things get a bit hecktick.


The start

[Alfisti]

Originally posted by Jhope


Yes. I rocking it hard on GPL and dominated it on GP2. It's the best track in the world.

Huh??/ i never klnew it was available on those games. Damit i wish i'd learned GPL.

[Falcadore]

Some more pics of Bathurst can be found at the virtual tour of Bathurst in the Nostalgia Forum, at this thread here!

http://www.atlasf1.c...y=&pagenumber=2

The Bathurst 12 hour was held four times before moving to Eastern Creek and dying.

1991 Bathurst 12 Hour
1st Allan Grice / Peter Fitzgerald / Nigel Arkell Toyota Supra Turbo
2nd Kent Youlden / Ken Douglas / Brett Youlden Ford Laser TX3 Turbo
3rd Warren Cullen / Gary Cooke / Glenn Cullen Holden Commodore VN SS V8

1992 Bathurst 12 Hour
1st Garry Waldon / Charlie O'Brien / Mark Gibbs Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo
2nd Tony Longhurst / Alan Jones / Neville Crichton BMW M5
3rd Colin Bond / Glenn Seton SAAB 9000 CS Turbo

1993 Bathurst 12 Hour
1st Garry Waldon / Alan Jones Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo
2nd Gregg Hansford / Charlie O'Brien Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo
3rd Wayne Gardner / Ian Palmer / Ross Palmer Honda NSX

1994 Bathurst 12 Hour
1st Gregg Hansford / Neil Crompton Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo
2nd Jim Richards / Peter Fitgerald / Nicholas Leutweiler Porsche 968 CS
3rd Brad Jones / Brett Peters / Geoff Morgan Porsche 968 CS

1995 Eastern Creek 12 Hour
1st John Bowe / Dick Johnson Mazda RX7 SP2
2nd Peter Fitgerald / Jim Richards Porsche 993 RSCS
3rd Andrew Miedecke / Mark Noske Porsche 993 RSCS

1997 Bathurst 3 Hour
1st John Bowe / Garry Waldon Ferrari F355 Challenge
2nd Peter Fitgerald / Jim Richards Porsche 993 RSCS
3rd Ed Aitken / Kevin Weeks Porsche 993 RSCS

1998 Bathurst 3 Hour
1st Peter Fitgerald / Jim Richards Porsche 993 RSCS
2nd Neil Crompton / Darren Palmer Ferrari F355 Challenge
3rd Ed Aitken / Kevin Weeks Porsche 993 RSCS

1999 Bathurst 3 Hour
1st Terry Bosnjak / Mark Williamson Mazda RX7 SP2
2nd Ed Aitken / John Faulkner Porsche 993 RSCS
3rd Jamie Cartwright / Aaron McGill Toyota Supra RZ Turbo

2000 Bathurst 3 Hour
1st Ed Aitken / John Faulkner HSV Commodore VT GTS
2nd Scott Anderson / Ross Almond Mitsubishi Lancer RS-E Evo V
3rd Phil Kirkham / Ric Shaw Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo

2001 Bathurst 2 Hour
1st Graham Alexander / John Woodberry Mitsubishi Lancer RS-E Evo V
2nd John Bowe / Chris Dunn Ford Mustang Cobra RA
3rd Cameron McConville / Peter Floyd HSV Commodore VX GTS 300kW

[iconic]

thanks for the pics and info Falcadore. i guess i will appreciate bathurst more when races are been held there. the track really looks very challenging. looks quite basic on tv but with all those angles of your shots it looks awesome. i really hope a 24 hour race will be held at bathurst.

[Alfisti]

Will MS news cover the story??? I am going OS and my mother is sending me MS News every month .. but i need to know aboutthis story. I'll get this weeks' copy of AA otherwise and i hate that.

[Jhope]

Originally posted by Falcadore
Some more pics of Bathurst can be found at the virtual tour of Bathurst in the Nostalgia Forum, at this thread here!

http://www.atlasf1.c...y=&pagenumber=2

The Bathurst 12 hour was held four times before moving to Eastern Creek and dying.

1991 Bathurst 12 Hour
1st Allan Grice / Peter Fitzgerald / Nigel Arkell Toyota Supra Turbo
2nd Kent Youlden / Ken Douglas / Brett Youlden Ford Laser TX3 Turbo
3rd Warren Cullen / Gary Cooke / Glenn Cullen Holden Commodore VN SS V8

1992 Bathurst 12 Hour
1st Garry Waldon / Charlie O'Brien / Mark Gibbs Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo
2nd Tony Longhurst / Alan Jones / Neville Crichton BMW M5
3rd Colin Bond / Glenn Seton SAAB 9000 CS Turbo

1993 Bathurst 12 Hour
1st Garry Waldon / Alan Jones Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo
2nd Gregg Hansford / Charlie O'Brien Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo
3rd Wayne Gardner / Ian Palmer / Ross Palmer Honda NSX

1994 Bathurst 12 Hour
1st Gregg Hansford / Neil Crompton Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo
2nd Jim Richards / Peter Fitgerald / Nicholas Leutweiler Porsche 968 CS
3rd Brad Jones / Brett Peters / Geoff Morgan Porsche 968 CS

1995 Eastern Creek 12 Hour
1st John Bowe / Dick Johnson Mazda RX7 SP2
2nd Peter Fitgerald / Jim Richards Porsche 993 RSCS
3rd Andrew Miedecke / Mark Noske Porsche 993 RSCS

1997 Bathurst 3 Hour
1st John Bowe / Garry Waldon Ferrari F355 Challenge
2nd Peter Fitgerald / Jim Richards Porsche 993 RSCS
3rd Ed Aitken / Kevin Weeks Porsche 993 RSCS

1998 Bathurst 3 Hour
1st Peter Fitgerald / Jim Richards Porsche 993 RSCS
2nd Neil Crompton / Darren Palmer Ferrari F355 Challenge
3rd Ed Aitken / Kevin Weeks Porsche 993 RSCS

1999 Bathurst 3 Hour
1st Terry Bosnjak / Mark Williamson Mazda RX7 SP2
2nd Ed Aitken / John Faulkner Porsche 993 RSCS
3rd Jamie Cartwright / Aaron McGill Toyota Supra RZ Turbo

2000 Bathurst 3 Hour
1st Ed Aitken / John Faulkner HSV Commodore VT GTS
2nd Scott Anderson / Ross Almond Mitsubishi Lancer RS-E Evo V
3rd Phil Kirkham / Ric Shaw Mazda RX7 Twin Turbo

2001 Bathurst 2 Hour
1st Graham Alexander / John Woodberry Mitsubishi Lancer RS-E Evo V
2nd John Bowe / Chris Dunn Ford Mustang Cobra RA
3rd Cameron McConville / Peter Floyd HSV Commodore VX GTS 300kW

Thanks for the link falcadore.

[Melbourne Park]

falcadore. thanks for the link; fantastic. Its always amazed my how in the first 12 laps or so the leaders just go crazy. Instead of travelling at planned pace, there's a lot that want to be in the lead pack. After a dozen or so laps reality sets in and some ease off the pace. Nonetheless those first laps even though they are on full fuel are pretty quick laps ... the opening laps of bathurst are fantastically exciting ... and thanks for leaving out the coach of the Lions, he's a dirty thug IMO.

[Titania]

Thanks for the link Falcadore .... Hope the UK gets to see some Bathurst races

[Falcadore]

Titania,
The Bathurst 1000 has been telecast in the UK since the mid 1980s at least. Many British drivers have raced it, a couple even won. John Cleland came within five seconds of the win last year. Both John Fitzpatrick and Win Percy are on the honour role. Steve Soper won in 1987 but was later disqualified. Rickard Rydell has won it, also Jacky Ickx, Rauno Aaltonen, David & Geoff Brabham. Podium finishers include Frank Biela, Klaus Niedzwiedz, Derek Bell, Yoshimi Katayama, Matt Neal, Jean-Francois Hemroulle, Klaus Ludwig (later disqualified), Tom Walkinshaw, Roberto Ravaglia, Johnny Cecotto, Pierre Dieudonne (later disqualified) and recent visistors include, Alain Menu, Jason Plato, Tommy Kendall, Yvan Muller, Tim Harvey, Paul Radisich, Joachim Winkelhock, Derek Warwick, Scott Pruett, Anders Olofsson, Andy Rouse, Altfrid Heger, Emanuelle Pirro, Gianfranco Brancatelli, Roland Ratzenberger, Masahiro Hasemi, Olivier Grouillard, Akihiko Nakaya, even Satoru Nakajima has raced it. Denny Hulme died there, Alan Jones extends his career another year each year by driving it.

Watch it