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[FEV]

Hi !
Does anyone knows where I could find more about the history of the Cosworth DFV ? I'm looking for the specs of the different Series (what was the differences between a 1971 Series 11 and a Series 10 for instance ?) and which F1 teams used them and when ? Also would like to know which engines builders maintained them (were companies like RES, mcLaren USA, Hart, Richardson, Mader, Alan Smith, etc... working for F1 teams, did all the teams do the job themselves or did Cosworth do it all ???). Are there any books or site on this subject ?
Thanks !
Frank

[Felix Muelas]

Originally posted by FEV
... where I could find more about the history of the Cosworth DFV ?

Frank,

Does more mean that you have already got your own copy of
??

;)
Felix

[FEV]

Does more mean that you have already got your own copy of

No it does not ! Thanks a lot Felix, one more book for which I have to explain to my fiancee it is a must-have whatever its price !
Cheers
Frank

[Don Capps]

Lord, but I wish I had done a better job on keeping my notes in order over the years... Autosport and a few other sources used to report the DFV block numbers used by the teams for a period of several seasons. Naturally, they often failed to alert you that some blocks were renumbered or kept the old number but were updated to a new series spec. At the risk of using my now often faulty memory, the "10" and "11" series were the specs for the 1970 and 1971 engines since the "8" and "9" spec engines were those from 1968 and 1969 respectively -- except those "7" series engines updated to "8" specs and re-numbered, "701" to "801" and so forth until at least "705" or so.

[Allen Brown]

Frank

Autocar used to report DFV engine numbers in their reports about 1979-1982 period, as did some European magazines (Autosprint possibly). I didn't often see Autocar as it was of limited use, so I can't be exactly sure what period they did this.

Good luck with your project.

Allen

[FEV]

Don and Allen, thanks a lot for your precisions. They are of a great help and show me the best direction where to find this kind of info in contemporary sources.

[2F-001]

Of more general interest (possibly too general for your purposes, FEV) but with some DFV background is ''Cosworth'' by Ken Wells, pub. Wells & William Kimberley, '67, ISBN 0 946132 42 9. It has a few anecdotes about magnesium DFV's and some strange tale about somebody using a DFV as an outboard motor (sort of...). A slim booklet, but worth keeping a lookout for, I'd say.

There was book called ''Such Sweet Thunder'' (?); I thought I had this, but can't find it - I think this was about Cosworth with emphasis on the DFV - anyone else have this and can put me right?

[2F-001]

Of more general interest (possibly too general for your purposes, FEV) but with some DFV background is ''Cosworth'' by Ken Wells, pub. Wells & Willam Kimberley, '67, ISBN 0 946132 42 9. It has a few anecdotes about magnesium DFV's and some strange tale about somebody using a DFV as an outboard motor (sort of...). A slim booklet, but worth keeping a lookout for, I'd say.

There was book called ''Such Sweet Thunder'' (?); I thought I had this, but can't find it - I think this was about Cosworth with emphasis on the DFV - anyone else have this and can put me right?

[Darren Galpin]

For what its worth...... Here's the first of the Specials articles I wrote for 8W. It won't tell you anything you won't know though!

http://www.8w.forix.com/dfv.html

[stevew]

Try looking here for books:

www.motorbooks.com

www.ewacars.com

[Tech_Nut]

Originally posted by 2F-001

There was book called ''Such Sweet Thunder'' (?); I thought I had this, but can't find it - I think this was about Cosworth with emphasis on the DFV - anyone else have this and can put me right?

Yes 2F, Such Sweet Thunder was a book entirely about the design and development of the DFV from 66 to 70. I have a copy, and the index at the back contains a list of Cosworth successes up to 1970 and also lists the engine number of every DFV car that finished a GP in any of the first six places.

The book was written by John Blunsden, who also wrote ""The Power to Win" in 1983 which is an update on the Cosworth story.

Another book about Cosworth is "Cosworth - the Search for Power" by Graham Robson. This was first issued in 1990 and re-issued several times. My copy was issued in 1999, which means, I think, that it's the latest book on Cosworth.

Also, I just did a google search and found the Cosworth site! . If you scroll down the list here you'll find some limited info.

http://www.cosworth....story_fset.html

[Roger Clark]

does "The Power to win" have an updated list of engine numbers?

[Tech_Nut]

Originally posted by Roger Clark
does "The Power to win" have an updated list of engine numbers?

Yes, but it lists only the race-winning DFVs. From 67 to 82. Actually, that's still a lot of data as the DFV did a lot winning!! Spread over 3 pages anyway...

[dewittereus]

Here's the list of books I've got on Ford Racing Engines and/or Cosworth

V8 for victory Ford Cosworth 1977 (small booklet, lot of statistics)
The power to win (Ford Cosworth) John Blunsden 1983
Such sweet thunder John Blunsden/David Phipps (till 34th Cosworth GP win
Cosworth the search for power (4th ed) G. Robson
Ford moteur champion Pierre Gosse (1974)


The French book - 300 pages - has a list of ca. 170 enginenrs allocated to a owner.
I have no idea how accurate this survey is.

Dick
Holland