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[joachimvanwing]

would some of you perhaps have VALID info on a recent F1's acceleration diagram?

like this fake one, e.g.:
Jaguar R2, Suzuka gearbox,...

0-60km/h 2,4s
0-100km/h 2,9s
0-140km/h 4,1s
0-180km/h 5,7s
0-220km/h 7,2s
0-260km/h 9,9s
0-300km/h 13,3

I had make this one up as an example of cource since a don't have the correct figures.

[CONOSUR]

I liked Mansell's reply to David Letterman about the '92 Williams, something like, "...naught to 125mph and back to a full stop in 7 seconds." (0-200kph-0)

don't know about the current crop, but as they're producing faster lap times, it'd have to be even better than that!

[The First MH]

There is a video on Morheus of a CART car BEATING an F16 jet a run way. They both begin in a stationary position, and the CART car is still ahead of the plane before it takes off. An F1 car would be much quicker than that. I don't have any figures though, but would be interested to find out...

[kouks]

This is an interesting topic.

Between 100km/h and 300km/h no circuit car can touch an F1 car in terms of acceleration, handling and braking distances.

But....

Initial acceleration off the line 0 - 30km/h they aren't as quick as you'd think. Obviously, they aren't geared for this type acceleration but I think that because they are so light at the rear end, they can't get the power down in the initial stages as well as other cars ( There is also no downforce generated by the aerofoils at standstill). Every year I sit opposite the pits in Melbourne and watch numerous starts from V8 tourers, practice starts from the pit lane of F1 cars and I reckon that the V8 tourers would get the jump on an F1 car for the first 10 metres or so.

Just my thoughts

[Skouse]

http://www.fortuneci...ozers/zbar/507/

I don't know how accurate it is, but it's interesting. CHeers.

[Julius]

I saw the following post on Atlas f1 at http://www.atlasf1.c...00/ita/faq.html


The acceleration of a Formula One car is something we can hardly grasp. 0-100 mph (160 kmh) takes about 3.6 seconds, while a Ferrari 550 Maranello, not exactly a slow car with its 200 mph (320 kmh) top speed, takes 4.4 seconds to go from zero to 60 mph (100 kmh).


Hope this helps

[baddog]

Originally posted by kouks
This is an interesting topic.

Between 100km/h and 300km/h no circuit car can touch an F1 car in terms of acceleration, handling and braking distances.

But....

Initial acceleration off the line 0 - 30km/h they aren't as quick as you'd think. Obviously, they aren't geared for this type acceleration but I think that because they are so light at the rear end, they can't get the power down in the initial stages as well as other cars ( There is also no downforce generated by the aerofoils at standstill). Every year I sit opposite the pits in Melbourne and watch numerous starts from V8 tourers, practice starts from the pit lane of F1 cars and I reckon that the V8 tourers would get the jump on an F1 car for the first 10 metres or so.

Just my thoughts

not sure about that kouks.. I would think (just think) that the huge weight advantage of the f1 car in terms of the initial impetus required to get the car moving (how many times the weight of an f1 car is a v8?) would more than compensate for the possible lack of traction at very low speeds.

Shaun

[stevew]

I thought that the fastest street legal motorcycles would put an F1 car to shame in acceleration...

[kouks]

Originally posted by baddog


not sure about that kouks.. I would think (just think) that the huge weight advantage of the f1 car in terms of the initial impetus required to get the car moving (how many times the weight of an f1 car is a v8?) would more than compensate for the possible lack of traction at very low speeds.

Shaun

When you're watching them live, they just seem to initially bog down at take off (remember these engines are designed for very high rpm). It will be interesting this year seeing them take off with traction control. Maybe this will change my opinion. We'll see.

[baddog]

yeah Ive seen them live, and I know what you mean, but I think thats more a visual effect caused by the sheer speed they then go on to accelerate at than anything

Shaun

[BuonoBruttoCattivo]

According to an old issue of Quattroruote (#1 Italian car mag) the Ferrari F2000 accelarates from 0-100km/h in 2.6 secs. But various gear ratios at various venues will give u diff. results. I forgot how they reached that figure but I always trust that mag.

BTW that figure was sort-of confirmed by Badoer at the 2001 Bologna MotorShow in a Rai 2 documentay I recently saw about Ferrari.

[tifoso]

To me it's not just the acceleration that makes the sport so fascinating; it's the braking. It's amazing to watch. During qualifying at Indy we sat right where they break for turn 1 after the very long straight. Just mind boggling.

[cupra]

I read somewhere (can't remember where) that they do something like 0-100kmh in 2.1 sec, but I don't really know if it's just someone's guess

Oh, and The First MH: it's an F18

[Oho]

Ave !!

A car built specifically for straight line acceleration would beat an F1 hands down with the kind of power F1 has. Soft suspension, wide soft slicks with very low tyre pressure would rocket an dragster into horizon before the best of F1 starters really got their cars of line. My understanding is that actually an F1 accelerates better from 100 to 200kph than from 0 to 100 as the engine generates sufficient power to make the tyre grip limiting factor almost all the way to 200 while the aero gives added grip.

- Oho -

[daSilvium]

Interesting fact :

Above 130mph, a bog-stock McLaren F1 *road* car will accelerate faster than an F1 race car.


That's simply because at high-speeds of 100mph +, the huge drag on an F1 car restricts the acceleration somewhat. Obviously the McLaren road car has a MUCH lower drag coefficent and frontal area and so despite the fact that it has "only" 627bhp and weighs 1050kg-ish, it will accelerate faster than F1 race car.
(Also the F1 car is not geared to reach v.high speeds except at places like Hockenheim).

[917k]

Dasil,I read that in Road and TRACK,too[I think] but I also remember them printing a correction in the next months issue,saying that it was not the case.

For the Mac to out accel. an F1 would defy the laws of physics.

[klipywitz]

I agree with Tifoso here...

Sure, the F1s are way powerful, especially if you consider it is a 3.0L engine. I mean, taking 800 horsies out of that is just mind boggling for me. Can you imagine the power they would have if there were no limiting regulations?

Yet, the interesting thing here is the braking. That is where it is at.

[Bex37]

Braking, mid corner rotational acceleration, agility.

[kouks]

Imagine they still had Turbo's.

The Honda's of the late eighties were developing 1500 hp from 1.5 litre V6's in qualifying trim!

[slipstream]

OK, What is " Mid Corner Rotational Acceleration " ? I have seen both CART and F1 Cars in Action and F1 cars are much faster in Mid corner and Acceleration. As far as the Turbo F1 cars Road & Track tested the Benetton BMW in 1987 that had over 950 HP and it went from 0 to 60 mph in 3 seconds and did the 1/4 mile in 9.4 seconds at 170 mph. The test was done in cold weather with cold slicks and Silverstone gearing. I would think that with shorter gearing and good weather a F1 Car would do the 1/4 mile in under 9 seconds.