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[balloon_boy]

Will Ruebens get the spare car this weekend since he has qualified faster than Michael? On wet days Michael is known to set up his race car for the dry and the spare for the wet and then choose one at the last moment. It will be VERY interesting to see who gets the spare since variable conditions are expected for the race.
Maybe this weekend we will get an idea just how "equal" Ferrari are treating this driver pairing.?

[Toxicant]

Rubens is number two, why the hell should he get the spare car, he's had three races to be ahead of schumacher. Formula one is a team sport and right now the team should put everything behind the guy with 30 points.

Tox!

[Redd]

Maybe this weekend we will get an idea just how "equal" Ferrari are treating this driver pairing.?

They have only one T-car. Either way one of them will be "more equal" than the other. Your point?

[Wishbone]

I thought most F1 teams alternate between who gets the T car each GP.

As far as I know Ferrari are the only team who don't do this.

[Neo]

As far as I know, Schumacher has use of the spare. If I am not mistaken I think it is actually in his contract. Thing is though I think Schuey and Reubens have similar set-ups, so if anything happens to Reubens race car it would not take long to change the settings on the T-car.

[Neo]

I agree with Toxicant, A team should be behind the Championship leader of the team, anyway dosen't MS have it in his contract that he gets the spare car at every race? Really in does not matter anyway because MS an RB have a similar taste in car set-up anyway so it does not take long to switch settings.

[RaggedEdge]

Neo, actually Rubens used Right Foot Braking, while Schumi uses Left Foot Braking, so there is quite a lot of work involved.

Anyway, I guess Schumi gets it since he said at the beginning of the season that always getting the spare was his only priviledge in Ferrari.

[Todd]

In addition to the usual reasons why Michael deserves the T-car, which include his contract and the fact that if one of the drivers has to sit out the race like Herbert did in Australia in '99, it shouldn't be the championship leader, one must also consider that Rubens has a clean shot at the first corner. If there is a huge David Coulthard induced first corner pile-up and the race is red flagged, Michael is the one far more likely to need a back-up car to start in.

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Todd

[balloon_boy]

Todd,

I was just wondering if you have been officailly diagnosed as brain dead?
You have taken stupid logic to a whole new level. Giving the slower driver the
spare car because they are more likely to be caught in a first lap tangle is laughable.
I am under the impression that most teams give the spare car to whomever qualified faster on a particular weekend,
with the exception being a driver given the spare car for his home Grand Prix.

[Todd]

baboon_boy,

No. I have never been diagnosed as being brain dead. Thank you for your concern.

Michael Schumacher has won from 16th on the grid in changing conditions. He has a proven ability to win in any conditions while Rubens has only proven that he can tell three different lies to explain his latest failure in three different languages. Anyone intelligent enough to get to Todt and Brawn's positions would know enough to provide the championship leading driver who is a 38 time GP winner with the spare car over his teammate who is 0 and 117.

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Todd

[Wishbone]

Todd,

Quite right, I believe that MS should have the T car setup for him at all races, he is the faster driver and deserves some privileges.
In fact what if there's something wrong with the T-car? MS should have all three cars setup for him for varying conditions( wet/dry/need-to-punt-someone-off).
They can give Rubens a little buggy or something of his own, nothing too fancy, so he can trundle around at his own speed.;)

[Neo]

Oops got caught out there, did,nt think it had taken the first reply, are well. Still totally agree the championship leader in the team, wherever they are on the grid, should get the spare car, whether it is in their contract or not.

[Franco]

Todd while I agree that Schumacher is no.1 and should get the spare, your example of a DC-induced 1st corner pile up really is lame.

It seems that youve permanently forgotten that it is Schumacher and not DC who is known (or should i say 'feared') for his on-track ramming manouvers.

[Todd]

Franco,

Tell that to Mika Hakkinen, or any of the drivers who missed out on the '98 Spa restart.

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[Nikolas Garth]

Franco,
Schuey goes the punt for the lead, Cubey and Trulli the Destroyer, like to do it anywhere, anytime, anyone. Plus of course Jos is racing this year.

[AlesiGOD]

2 spares?

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[tanja]

Todd, Mika was in the restart of Spa, he spun out after the second start, on a man hole cover during the first (that is to say second) lap of the race, if memory serve's correctly.

That was my first F1 race that I ever watched!

[Sash]

Yes, it's definately in MS's contract that he gets the spare car.

Irvine was quoted in preseason saying the only thing in their contracts was that MS got the spare car. It wasn't in EI's contract to let MS past him. The team just told him to when they saw fit. Being an employee of Ferrari, he obviously had to comply.

So MS will get the spare, even if he qualifies next to Mezzacane (sp?) on the last row.

[Todd]

tanja,

I didn't mean to imply that Mika was one of DC's victims at Spa in '98. He did get bounced twice by DC in '99 however.

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[Franco]

Todd what if I told Villeneuve or Hill?

You should be ashamed of defending (in this respect) so blindly the only driver on the grid who has rammed other drivers blatantly and deliberately.

[Todd]

Originally posted by Franco:
Todd what if I told Villeneuve or Hill?

You should be ashamed of defending (in this respect) so blindly the only driver on the grid who has rammed other drivers blatantly and deliberately.

Franco,

Spare cars are only useful for replacing broken cars during the race if there is an aborted start due to a pile up. The last few times this has happened were brought about by DC or Trulli. If Schumacher has ever been the cause of a red flag, it was at least 7 years ago.

If you are one of the people that believe Schumacher was at fault in Australia '94, you still have to admit that use of the spare car did nothing for Damon Hill, just as it didn't help Schumacher when Hill rammed him out of the lead in Silverstone or when Hill rammed him in Monza.

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Todd

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[Franco]

Todd I agree that the spare care is useful in case of a 1st corner pile-up like in Spa '98, and agree that MS deserves the spare in all cases.

What my problem is with you is that you make comments about other drivers causing pile-ups and ramming manouvers, which is fine by me UNLESS youre an MS fan, and you are. MS fans should keep their mouth shut and zipped about ramming tactics and dangerous driving because MS is the ONLY driver on the grid that has DELIBERATELY and BLATANTLY rammed off 2 Williams drivers. All the other accidents and coming-togethers of any driver, including MS is arguable. DC at Spa'98 and all the cases you mentioned with Hill are all arguable either way, but the only unarguable incidents are MS's moves on Hill and Villeneuve, especially on JV, which has been generally accepted, even by MS, as a delibirate attempt to take out an opponent.

[Todd]

Franco,

Ignore my previous post. You aren't worth being reasonable with. F.O.A.D.

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Todd