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[red 2]

I did read it in O Estado de Sao Paulo (brazilian newspaper) but they are refering to La Gazzeta dello Sport as the source.



Barrichello ameaça sair, diz jornal

Roma - A decisão da Ferrari deixar o modelo do ano passado (F2001) para Rubens Barrichello correr o GP Brasil, neste domingo, no circuito de Interlagos, tem desagradado e muito o brasileiro. Na sua edição desta quinta-feira, o diário italiano “La Gazzetta dello Sport” publica palavras do próprio piloto manifestando a intenção de não ficar mais na escuderia. “Eu gostaria de também poder pilotar um novo carro. Se não me querem mais eu vou embora”, disse.

A bronca de Rubinho é porque a escuderia trouxe apenas uma modelo da nova Ferrari 2002 para correr o GP do Brasil, mesmo após ter realizado testes com o piloto brasileiro e o F2002, em Barcelona. Na ocasião, Barrichello elogiou e aprovou o carro, dando a entender que estava pronto para competir com ele.



I need a help from some italian to find this interview with Rubens in La Gazzeta dello Sport. Acording to O Estado de Sao Paulo it's a new from today (thurday, 28).
Any italian could find and confirm?

[TazioN]

It would have helped a lot if there was some translation into English...all I can get from your post is that Rubens will not drive the new car in Brazil.

[raceday]

Barrichello threat to leave, says periodical Rome - the decision of the Ferrari to leave the model of the last year (F2001) Rubens Barrichello to run the GP Brazil, in this sunday, the circuit of Interlagos, has disliked and very the Brazilian. In its edition of this thursday, the daily Italian La Gazzetta dello Sport. publishes words of the proper pilot revealing the intention not to be more in would escuderia. Eu would like also to be able to pilot a new carriage. If they do not want more to me I I go even so, I said. The quarrel of Rubinho is because it would escuderia it brought only one model of new Ferrari 2002 to run the GP of Brazil, exactly after to have carried through tests with the Brazilian pilot and F2002, in Barcelona. In the occasion, Barrichello praised and approved the carriage, giving to understand that he was ready to compete with it.

Pulled through Altavistas translation, bad but better than nothing.

I don't think it's true. But i wouldn't mind if it was.

[Smooth]

bye, ciao, see ya.



Certainly not true, but whatever. Where does he think he would go? He wouldn't be dumb enough to walk away from that kind of dough with no other seat available.

[BuonoBruttoCattivo]

Plz check this thread
http://www.atlasf1.c...&threadid=38940

I checked for u and nothing in Gazzetta.it about yoghurt leaving "IMMEDIATELY".
However I translated some RB whining from Katasport.it which is another excellent sports website of Italy.

[FlatFoot]

Oh well.

Bring on Badoer!

[Keelan]

Poor guy. He's seemed so deflated this year. Whatever, bring on Jos!

[BuonoBruttoCattivo]

.......anyways, he is staying for this year. He has retracted all previous (tuesday) statements and is happy w/ the situation according to Gazzetta.it

[padovani]

That would be dumb. If it was to go to Williams or McL, I'd agree, but we all know it is not going to happen.

So he's better stay put.

What the hell, this guy has a mouth that's big as a contintent. We all go through periods when we are unhappy with our jobs, only that we just don't stand up and go shouting around the office "I want to leave!", only to regret that 10 minutes later.

RB really needs senior counseling on how to conduct his career, how to behave professionally, or someone that simply keep him from giving any interviews whatsoever. His life would be so much easier if he simply didn't talk to the press.

I say that as a RB fan. The guy has talent, more than most people would admit or like him to have, but he just keeps making his life miserable by the way he behaves off-track. You can see that he's trying hard, but as the week progresses, we are seeing the F1-2002 episode snowballing, RB adding fuel to it in all interviews, and it's the same old RB self-destructing before his home race.

WTF.

I just hope RB has a good night of sleep on saturday, wake up happy, go to the track, don't talk to anyone, just sit in his car a drive a nice, solid race. Let the hype to others, PLLLLEASE!

[mono-posto]

Originally posted by padovani
We all go through periods when we are unhappy with our jobs, only that we just don't stand up and go shouting around the office "I want to leave!"

Actually, when I do it, everyone in the office just rolls their eyes and ignores me.
And it definitely dosn't get printed in the paper the next day!
(I wil have have to try harder...)

[red 2]

Welll, money is not the most important thing in our life...

I did read another new that the spare car will not be avaiable to RB... God, the guy must be getting nervous...

Why? The oficcial says the pits don't have enough space to acomodate 4 cars.

[TAB666]

I sure hope that Ferrari will kick RB's sorry butt this season

[padovani]

Originally posted by red 2
Welll, money is not the most important thing in our life...

I did read another new that the spare car will not be avaiable to RB... God, the guy must be getting nervous...

Why? The oficcial says the pits don't have enough space to acomodate 4 cars.

I read that too (warmup.com.br, right?). The article just "forgets" to mention that *no* team has garages where they could fit 4 cars. Consequently, *all* teams have to make a choice in the customization of the T-car.

That article was placed amongst other news commenting about the F1-2002 issue, so it gave the impression that it was one more case of Ferrari favoring MS in detriment of RB. But that just wasn't the case, because RB would have to face that if he was driving for *any* F1 team.

That's just bad journalism, if you ask me.

[red 2]

yes Padovani, you are rigth.

Certainly the media is trying to put pepper on the weekend...

[siggers]

Actually - to be fair to Rubens Barrichello - I think one has to say that the borders between reality, citation, misscitation and mediafrenzy here seem to be getting very obscure.

The Gazzetta lead article for f1 ("From Fury to sadness") says that after strong words yesterday Barrichello has retracted, saying now that he is 'sad', not to have the new car, but understands this is the right decision because Schumacher has more points. The Gazzetta adds that it will need a pratically perfect performance from RB (and his teammate) to have his contract renewed, and he needs to break the pattern of the two dnfs as soon as possible. Italian text below.

I myself am amazed by the way this discussion is going. How would the postings here read if Ferrari in this situation gave the new car to Barrichello? 'Rubens has to test the unproved car for Ferrari. He has no points yet, and still he has to carry the risk, while MS lead is protected by the team.'? I think it is a pity that there will be only one F2002 in Brazil, but I cannot quite convince myself that Ferrari is going through the whole hollabaloo just to humiliate Rubens. I personally think it is a unplanned stopgap measure (and a risky one at that) to deal with a very strong Williams/Michelin challenge.

I think Rubens *is* a good driver, and am very sympathetic to the run of problems he had in the last few races, but I feel that support of the barrichello.com kind is in the category "who needs enemies, with friends like that ...".

I hope that both Ferrari models will do really well in the race and look forward to see the F2002 for the first time in a race.

Ohh, and if RB really wants to leave immediately, he could swap with Eddie Irvine - who seems to be quite fed up with being #1 at Jaguar No. No. I don't really mean it. Joke in bad taste. But this is getting taxing.

INTERLAGOS, 28 marzo 2002 - Un "obbedisco" alla Garibaldi, come ci si
aspettava. Rubens Barrichello, dopo le parole vivaci e amare di martedì ("Perché
non ho la nuova rossa? Chiedetelo a Maranello. Comunque se non piaccio più me
ne vado"), ha fatto un po' di marcia indietro e, non si sa quanto pressato dal team,
ha fatto sapere di essere solo "triste" perchè l'unica F2002 presente a San Paolo
sarà nelle mani di Schumi. Ma ha aggiunto di accettare la decisione della Ferrari di
portare in gara solo una vettura nuova, mossa che potrebbe regalare al compagno
tedesco un vantaggio importante. "Naturalmente - ha spiegato - correndo nel mio
paese, sulla pista di casa, sono triste per non avere a disposizione la F2002. Ma lo
accetto. Michael ha più punti di me ed è in testa al campionato, perciò è giusto
dare a lui la nuova macchina".
Solo 24 ore prima, però, il suo umore sembrava molto più nero e combattivo. "E'
ovvio - aveva raccontato alla conferenza stampa Bridgestone - che dopo aver provato
la macchina nuova ed essermi reso conto che è molto più veloce della vecchia mi
sarebbe piaciuto averla". E aveva concluso con: "Se la Ferrari pensa che io possa
fare un buon lavoro possiamo andare avanti. Altrimenti cercherò un'altra soluzione".
Il giorno dopo ha chiarito: "Non ho problemi con la Ferrari. Ho una vettura affidabile e
che dovrebbe essere molto più competitiva di quella dell'anno scorso. La mia
intenzione è di dare il 101% con il mezzo a disposizione". Tutto rientrato, è la
norma. La verità innegabile, però, è che Rubinho viaggia sul filo per quanto riguarda
il suo futuro. Il suo contratto con Maranello scade a fine anno e serve una stagione
quasi perfetta - sua e soprattutto del suo compagno - per garantirgli una conferma. I
primi due GP gli hanno regalato due ritiri, serve invertire la rotta al più presto. Farlo
in casa sarebbe il modo sicuramente più piacevole

[Darrenj]

posted from BuonoBruttoCattivo
I checked for u and nothing in Gazzetta.it about yoghurt leaving "IMMEDIATELY".
However I translated some RB whining from Katasport.it which is another excellent sports website of Italy

YOGHURT ??? I never heard that one before. Is that what you call Barichello - BuonoBruttoCattivo?

[Ricardo F1]

Originally posted by padovani


I read that too (warmup.com.br, right?). The article just "forgets" to mention that *no* team has garages where they could fit 4 cars. Consequently, *all* teams have to make a choice in the customization of the T-car.

That article was placed amongst other news commenting about the F1-2002 issue, so it gave the impression that it was one more case of Ferrari favoring MS in detriment of RB. But that just wasn't the case, because RB would have to face that if he was driving for *any* F1 team.

That's just bad journalism, if you ask me.

There's always just three cars in the garage as far as I'm aware, either way the T-Car is always set up for Michael so it makes little difference.

[tifoso]

Originally posted by Ricardo F1
There's always just three cars in the garage as far as I'm aware, either way the T-Car is always set up for Michael so it makes little difference.

The teams do bring 3 cars to each race -- 1 each for the drivers and the T car. However, some teams also bring additional chassis. If the drivers crack up the cars, the mechanics have to build new ones up from the spare chassis. I remember reading this in Matchett's books. I'll try to find a quote later.

[TT6]

And in thursday's press conference Rubens denied that he would have said such thing...

[Ricardo F1]

Question: How do you feel about the fact that Ferrari have given the car to Michael and not to you?

Rubens Barrichello: It's obvious that I would have liked to have had the new car because after four days testing in Barcelona, I felt that the car was better in every respect, so for sure, when I knew that we were only bringing one car, to be racing in my home country at my racing track, it feels sad not to have it, but I accept it and, as I've said, it is the best weekend of my year, so I have to make the full usage of the old car and by any means the race is lost. I have had a good start to the season with qualifying and racing. I have no points yet for various reasons but I'm feeling good. I'm feeling competitive, and I'm going to be a 101 percent on the car that I have.

Question: So what is the reason that you haven't got the new car?

Rubens Barrichello: The reason, I think, is that the decision was made a little late. They had to take the car apart so many times to analyse everything, so at the end of the day, they felt that that was the fastest approach to have just one car.

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So all the nonsense about it being Rubens choice and stuff was all just made up for cover it seems. Sad.

[PraetorAAV]

Originally posted by mono-posto


Actually, when I do it, everyone in the office just rolls their eyes and ignores me.
And it definitely dosn't get printed in the paper the next day!
(I wil have have to try harder...)

Are you the boss there mono-posto ?

[tifoso]

Originally posted by Ricardo F1
So all the nonsense about it being Rubens choice and stuff was all just made up for cover it seems. Sad.

I guess that depends on which Rubens quote you choose to believe. The one after the Barcelona test when he said he wanted the F2001 (for the international media) or the most recent one (for the domestic audience.

[Ricardo F1]

[GDoering]

Good.

[tifoso]

Sounds like Rubens hasn't been enjoying the media pressure for his home race. From the FIA Thursday press conference:

Q: Rubens, difficult home race with a lot of pressure; how do you approach it?

RB: Actually I'm feeling quite OK. The pressure is always there and has always been. But it's the best weekend of the year for me, so I want to make the full use of that, enjoy myself while I'm driving, it's easier when I'm driving then when I'm not, because the pressure is when I'm talking or the press are wanting to write something about the next day. I'm feeling quite cool to be honest.

Q: Rubens, Italian newspapers wrote today that you won't any longer accept decisions like the one where Ferrari will only give the new car to Michael and you might retire after this season if this doesn't change? Can you confirm that?

RB: No, I cannot confirm that. I think that sometimes there come from Brazilian papers some really bad things which then goes into the Italian press which looks as if it's the truth. It's just sad to have this type of thing. I have no problems with Ferrari, I have no problems with anything. I'm entitled to have my opinion. I sit down with Ross and Jean, we talk and by no means am I a man of no opinion. I have my opinion, I race to win and if sometimes you have to be happy and sometimes you're not happy. Right now I'm a happy man with Ferrari. It's my third year and everything is going quite OK. I'm coming to my home race. I don't have the new car but I have old the one which is competitive. It's reliable so let's go and see what it does. I have no problem with that.

Too bad they can't all have tape recorders containing pre-recorded answers for all the questions they know they're going to get. When a reporter asks the same question for the nth time, the driver can check his "playlist" and advance to the appropriate response. That way they'll say the same answer every time and eliminate half the stories in the media.

[Foxbat]

Originally posted by tifoso

The teams do bring 3 cars to each race -- 1 each for the drivers and the T car. However, some teams also bring additional chassis. If the drivers crack up the cars, the mechanics have to build new ones up from the spare chassis. I remember reading this in Matchett's books. I'll try to find a quote later.

The 4th "car" is usually a spare tub, so they have a T-car even if someone destroys a monocoque.

Ricardo: Everyone "knows" the car is always set-up for Micheal, even when it's not But in this case Schumacher might have to switch to the old car during the weekend so it actually makes sense to set that car up for him.

[HardRock]

Originally posted by Keelan
Poor guy. He's seemed so deflated this year. Whatever, bring on Jos!

[Ferrari Boy]

bye bye

[tifoso]

Originally posted by Foxbat
The 4th "car" is usually a spare tub, so they have a T-car even if someone destroys a monocoque.

Foxbat, thanks. "Spare tub" is the term I was looking for when I responded to Ricardo. I also looked in the indices of Matchett's books. He sometimes called it the "emergency spare." They were particularly hated by the mechanics. When the "emergency spare" was needed, lots of extra hours were required to convert it into a car.

[HP]

Originally posted by Ricardo F1
Question: So what is the reason that you haven't got the new car?

Rubens Barrichello: The reason, I think, is that the decision was made a little late. They had to take the car apart so many times to analyse everything, so at the end of the day, they felt that that was the fastest approach to have just one car.

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So all the nonsense about it being Rubens choice and stuff was all just made up for cover it seems. Sad.

That's Rubens view, and I think the most important part is that he says "they had to", "they felt". When does another driver say that? Just an indicaton of Rubens "poor me" syndrome.

[SennasCat]

I am pretty disappointed with Rubens. I have paid him out for several years for whinging and not getting on with the job. I really thought he had turned the corner for the first couple of races this year - but now he is going on like a preschooler again. Bring on Fisichella so everyone else can see that he can drive

[Williams]

On the whole Rubens issue I am witholding judgement until I see them both in the F2002, hopefully in San Marino. Then I'd like to see Rubens get on Schumacher's tail and stay glued there for the entire weekend. That would be the final proof of what kind of driver he is. There is no point making judgements on him in Brazil with the pressure of a home race and driving a second-rate car.

[dynamite7]

:

[flyer72]

Barrichello has made some stupid remarks in hopes to get equal treatment. That will not happen. He can say whatever he wants, it is VERY clear that he is not there to do anything but to back MS. When he fails doing that, he risks getting sacked - but then again, Rubens should argue! He could do it differently though...

I don't think it is good for the sport to do what Ferrari does - then again, Rubens is getting payback from being favoured at Stewart-Ford (where he was in MS shoes). Stewart-Ford had another problem than Ferrari though, money, which limited resources available and they focused on one car with fairly good results.

I think Barrichello knows that he isn't the number one driver and will never be the nr.1 at Ferrari.
Alesi have another take on it, Barrichello should shut it and be HAPPY that he is driving for an institution like Ferrari. That is an accomplishment in itself and he isn't getting popular with the fans.

I think his agent is already talking to a number of other teams by now.

[LeDiableRouge]

A Fair Decision for Michael

Barrichello was hardly surprised when, yet again, he was asked how he felt about not having the use of F2002 this weekend, a question directed at him ever since his Italian team made the decision to bring just one new car to the Interlagos circuit for teammate Michael Schumacher to use.

“Of course I would have liked to have had the new car for my home race, because after four days of testing, I felt it was better in every respect,” he admitted. “So, I'm a bit sad not to have it here. But I accept the team decision and as this is my favourite weekend, I intend to make full use of the old car. Although, for various reasons, I have yet to score points this year, I feel I have made a good start to the season, I have been competitive, feeling good and I will be concentrating 100% on the car I have. It was a fair decision for Michael to have the car, as he has more points than me in the championship.”

Rubens also strongly denied rumours in the Italian media that he was unhappy with having to use the old car and had threatened to quit at the end of the year as a result.

“I have no problems with Ferrari in any way,” he insisted. “I am entitled to have my own opinion and I discuss these with Jean Todt and Ross Brawn. I am happy at Ferrari, this is my third year and everything is going OK.”

These rumour mongers.

Anyone in Rubens' shoes would be unhappy but I feel there are forces at work here trying to dislodge RB from that Prancing Horse stable.

Forces with interest in another driver perhaps.

[B747]

Here some parts of Gazzetta dello sport

-Rubens ridimensiona lo sfogo di martedì. "Nessun problema con la Ferrari, giusto dare a Michael la F2002". Ma il suo futuro a Maranello è nebuloso

"No problem with Ferrari, is fair to give Michael F2002", But his future at Maranello is dubbious

-Solo 24 ore prima, però, il suo umore sembrava molto più nero e combattivo

but only 24 hours earlier, his mood seemed (don't know how it translates exactly but means something like) it was not so good and was also combative

". E aveva concluso con: "Se la Ferrari pensa che io possa fare un buon lavoro possiamo andare avanti. Altrimenti cercherò un'altra soluzione". Il giorno dopo ha chiarito: "Non ho problemi con la Ferrari.

"if Ferrari thinks that I could do a goog job, we can go ahead, if not I will search another solution"
However next day he cleared up "No problem with Ferrari"

-La verità innegabile, però, è che Rubinho viaggia sul filo per quanto riguarda il suo futuro

the very true however is that Rubens future goes over the edge (also dont know exactly how it translates to english)

[BuonoBruttoCattivo]

Originally posted by Darrenj
posted from BuonoBruttoCattivo
I checked for u and nothing in Gazzetta.it about yoghurt leaving "IMMEDIATELY".
However I translated some RB whining from Katasport.it which is another excellent sports website of Italy

YOGHURT ??? I never heard that one before. Is that what you call Barichello - BuonoBruttoCattivo?

Yup, thats how they call him in Italy (Ferrari fans which make fun of him), kinda like how he is called teletubbie (sic?) on this fantastic BB

[padovani]

Maybe...

-La verità innegabile, però, è che Rubinho viaggia sul filo per quanto riguarda il suo futuro

can be:

"The undeniable truth, however, is that Rubinho walks a thin line regarding his future"

(I can't speak Italian, but Portuguese is not that different )

[Ricardo F1]

Originally posted by Foxbat


The 4th "car" is usually a spare tub, so they have a T-car even if someone destroys a monocoque.

Ricardo: Everyone "knows" the car is always set-up for Micheal, even when it's not But in this case Schumacher might have to switch to the old car during the weekend so it actually makes sense to set that car up for him.

What are you talking about Foxy? The T-Car IS always set up for Michael ; as it was at last years Brazilian GP where the Ferrari mechanics had to perform a minor miracle to switch the car over to allow Rubens to even take his place on the grid after his car gave up half way round the circuit.

[BuonoBruttoCattivo]

Originally posted by padovani
Maybe...


can be:

"The undeniable truth, however, is that Rubinho walks a thin line regarding his future"

(I can't speak Italian, but Portuguese is not that different )

u got it right tough guy

[B747]

Thanks Padovani, thats rigth, my english is not so good.

[Gudrun]

Originally posted by FlatFoot
Oh well.

Bring on Badoer!

Bon Voyage Barrichello..........

[se7en_24]

Has anyone got a copy of the Gazetta Mrv had where Schumie was saying 'I WANT THE NEW CAR NOW' and Rubens was saying 'I WANT THE OLD CAR' ? I'd be interested to read the actual text.