Your First Racing Memory
#1
Posted 31 March 2002 - 00:22
From my point of view it would be having been taken to Silverstone in, I guess, 1968 for what could've been practice for the International Trophy. We stood at Woodcote behind a grass bank and my abiding memory was of the Gold Leaf Loti. My Dad told me that Jim Clark was driving one of them, but I don't think that could've been true since he was supposedly restricted from coming to Britain for tax reasons.
Anyone else remember what sparked their interest ?
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#2
Posted 31 March 2002 - 00:27
As for my earliest memory it has to be seeing Mauricio Gugelmin's massive roll at the start of the French Grand Prix, we witnessed it from only a few feet away, incredible. Incidentally it was the first race my father had attended since quitting the Sport half way through the 1983 season and for my little sister Alison it was a baptism of fire! "Daddy is the man in the orange helmet killed?" She asked while scoffing her ice cream.
#3
Posted 31 March 2002 - 01:14
One of my earliest recollections was about 1952 or 1953. They were going to have a "New Car" stock car race, meaning showroom cars right out of the dealer. We got a new Hudson Hornet. Beautiful red with big white 22 number painted on the side. It was so new it needed to be broken in so my mother put me in the seat and my infant brother between us, and drove it over to the Mississippi River, about a 4 hour drive each way and it was the first time I ever crossed a big bridge and saw a river. I was scared. They put big pieces of paper over the numbers.
So came the big season ending race weekend and the hillbillies my dad had running the car got into a family fight. One faction owned the engine and one owned the car. We were the sponsors so we didn't actually own anything. Well our driver was in the losing faction of the family fight and we got to the track and found out our pretty good hillbilly driver (when he wasn't drunk) had been replaced with some other hillbilly in "our car". So my dad came back from the pits having demanded the company name be removed from the car but it wasn't and it was a big hassle. The cars came out on the track and were lining up and stopping on the main straight for the introductions.
At that point my mother grabbed me by the hand and charged down the steps, my little legs missing about half of them, being suspended in space and drug along. She started going up to the fence and yelling at the drivers in their cars that were lined up. She was waving a $100 bill (big money in those days) and yelling "$100 to wreck the 22 car." I remember she went up to a young Tom Bigelow (years later an Indy 500 driver) waving the money. He looked at her like she was from the moon and said, "Isn't the 22 car your car?" "She yelled back, "Not anymore, $100 to wreck it."
So anyway the big 100 lapper went off and nobody wrecked the car but the driver sucked and finished way back. So afterward off we went to the pits. This is where my recollection is a bit fuzzy but some woman smacked a guy up side the head with her purse and a big riot broke out. I'm pretty sure it was my mom who started it. Anyway, there were about 100 people, men and women alike all fighting and scuffling and I was about knee high to all of them and couldn't help but notice nobody was taking care of me and it seemed kind of dangerous with all these adults fighting all around me. So I decided to bail and ran a zig zag course through the fighting adults and bodies rolling around on the ground until I reached the perimeter of the riot. So I stood there in amazement for awhile watching this and more and more people were pouring down from the stands and joining in and now there were 200 or 300 people fighting all over the place.
So at that point I saw a kid about my age who had also been abandoned standing over to the side so I went over there and sucker punched him and he started crying. I was about 5 years old and was already a racer!
#4
Posted 31 March 2002 - 04:27
After the race was over, I jumped over the fence in front of the main grandstand and ran towards the scene, not knowing what to expect. I remember that I beat my older brother in that 100 yard or so dash to the site of the accident and seeing the Afa resting near the tiny road with the front and tail pushed in, just minor damage. Back at the finish amongst the hundreds of people not much could be seen of the cars, Ascari’s Ferrari had been covered up with a large tarpaulin or was it Fangio's Alfetta, I forgot. The incredible engine roar, the excitement, the sweet smell of burned ether and castor oil had proved irresistible. I was addicted ever since, admittedly only as a spectator. It became very exciting for me later when Mercedes started to go grand prix racing in 1954. Pictures of Moss and Fangio adorned my wall. Fangio was like a god to me; still is. He was so far above everybody else. Moss came closest.
#5
Posted 31 March 2002 - 04:56
#6
Posted 31 March 2002 - 05:11
I started going to Westmead Speedway in 1961, Tom Stranger's new stock car was something that impressed me... all checkerplate mudguards (fenders) surrounding this 34 Ford Coupe... I also recall one day Fred Otten and Tom had a blue, Tom in his hotrod (Buick Century straight 8) revving it over and over again in anger at Otten in the pits... stub exhausts roaring over everything...
But in Road Racing, Warwick Farm was my first, and the first race was a fairly dull sedan race won by a pale green Mini driven by Tony Hill... the main race of the day saw light rain, Frank Matich showing mastery in the 1500 Elfin to make Chris Amon's life hell in the 2.5 Cooper. But the battle in front was a good one too, and David McKay was making Bib Stillwell work hard until he lost it at Polo Corner and mowed down a hessian toilet. Lex Davison had hoped to do well, but he stopped with some problem or other, only to find out it wasn't a problem at all...
Anyway, at the end of the day the old Tote building that formed the front of the paddock area had its dull brown wall being scribbled on by all manner of folk using up surplus pit-board chalk...
'Davo's in the pits and David's in the S...." is one message I can recall.
As I caught the train home, I had no idea where this would lead, but I knew I would be back next time...
#7
Posted 31 March 2002 - 06:10
Originally posted by Ray Bell
That's a threadkiller post, Buford!
I don't know if that is good or bad. I once wrote a series of articles for Speednet titled
"When Your Role Models Are All Crazy, What Chance Have You Got?"
It started off with the riot story and then went on to tell how my parents were going to get out of racing after the riot and how they met up with the great driver in the off season who talked them into staying in the sport. Teaming up with him went on for another 15 years and resulted in factory backing from three different manufacturers. It all started with the riot. My parents decided either to get out, or get serious. So they got serious.
#8
Posted 31 March 2002 - 07:48
#9
Posted 31 March 2002 - 08:18
Then I developped a "chicken's syndrome" with Stewart and I was fan of him until his retirement
From 1970 I bought weekly racing car magazines as in those years we didn't have proper TV coverage, neither Internet, you know
In fact, I always was a "car freak", I got late at school because I liked looking cars circulating in the street. Somehow, I was attracted by suspension, I was always simulating suspension with every thing I had in my hands, with despairs of my parents
#10
Posted 31 March 2002 - 08:20
Originally posted by Buford
I don't know if that is good or bad......
Good and bad...
Your stories are just great, and make good reading.... today I sent the Clark/Beatles and Ray Harroun posts you did to someone with very limited knowledge or interest... they reckon you tell a really good tale and keep the interest up all the way.
That's the good. The bad is that it might daunt others, make them think nobody would read theirs...
Fortunately this time it didn't, as evidenced by the fact that two more posted while I was getting around to doing mine. I was distracted several times reading yours, took me a while... in fact, that's when I sent the others away too.
#11
Posted 31 March 2002 - 08:33
It's kind of like I have seen Hollywood stars say their kids are not impressed seeing them on TV or in the movies because they think it is normal and everybody is on TV or in movies. So it was like that with me. It was all madness, but it seemed normal to me because I thought that was what everybody did.
#12
Posted 31 March 2002 - 08:51
Some time around the same era as your Hudson story, I was with my family enjoying watermelon in Parramatta Park. We lived in Merrylands, not too far away, and there were signs up around the place indicating that there was to be racing there the following weekend.
My interest was naturally aroused. Isn't everyone's? I asked my father if we could come back the next weekend... in fact, I probably badgered him and possibly other siblings did as well. Inside the old Prefect must have been a pretty tormenting place to be on our trip home that afternoon.
But dad was not to be persuaded. He had his reasons for saying 'no' and I had to wait another decade. It was different when we were down around Wollongong one Sunday afternoon, though. This was in the late fifties and stock car (what do you call them? Jalopies? anyway, the crash and trash lot...) had been getting a lot of newspaper coverage. We drove up the main road somewhere near Mt Kiera and the Speedway was running there... as you could see it from the road we did stop for a little while, but hessian over most of the fences prevented us getting a good view.
Forevermore in our family, those promoters were known as the cheapskates....
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#17
Posted 31 March 2002 - 10:29
I've always been interested in cars (my father recollects that I could identify cars by their hub-caps when I was about 3 or 4) - but motor racing became an interest at 15, in 1974. The earliest motor racing memory on TV is a pass of Peterson in a Lotus at Monaco - I thought it was unfair at theat time. Probably 1973 or 1974.
My first motor race was most probably the Easter races at Zandvoort 1974; walking through the sand to Panorama corner; and seeing my first touring car race, among others; Han Akersloot in his ex-factory NMB Capri; Huub Vermeulen in the Marlboro BMW CSL; Cees Siewertsen in his Wally's Jeans Carrera RSR.
That explains a few things, perhaps.
#18
Posted 31 March 2002 - 11:49
My earliest recollections, perhaps unsurprisingly, all involve accidents to which I was a close witness.
In about 1970, Ronnie Peterson buried his F2 March in the bank at the lake esses literally at my feet. I remember an eerie moment of silence, followed by the acrid smell of burned rubber. Within a few seconds, the blue-helmeted Ronnie scrambled from the car and up the bank to safety past my right shoulder. If only I'd known then what he was to become!.
A year or so later, My father and I were nearly killed by a Formula Libre car (Chris Featherstone, I think), which launched itself upside down towards us on the entry to the hairpin. In those days only a wooden-stake fence separated us from the track, and I had been standing on the the fence with my feet wedged between the posts. On seeing the car fly towards us, dad wrenched me from the fence and fell with me down the spectator bank in a desparate attempt to escape. We were showered with debris and I was hit by a small piece of perspex, which we kept as a souvenier. otherwise unhurt, we returned to our position at the fence, to be faced with the prone figure of the driver just visible underneath the upturned car. I clearly remember the marshall asking the spectators if anyone had a penknife (to cut the belts and release the driver). after some time, the driver was dragged clear, and recieved treatment on the spot.
All this happened inches from my eyes, and I think it was at this moment that I first asked myself the question: what motivates these men to take such risks in pursuit of their dreams?
The question has since been answered many times, but it was enough to spark a deep fascination for the sport.
#19
Posted 01 April 2002 - 05:34
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#22
Posted 01 April 2002 - 07:36
It was such a thrill I was hooked, I used to watch the races on TV as long as I could remember but the live experience was what made me a racing junkie.
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Posted 01 April 2002 - 15:37
#24
Posted 01 April 2002 - 17:41
I remember being fascinated and loved it -- racing cars became basically my only toys outside my other interest, airplanes. In 1952, the combination of a Firestone advertisement on winning Indy and having a friend of Dad's who actually had a racecar -- a NASCAR modified, a 30-something Ford -- let me hang out and watch him work on it.... I was completely hooked and addicted. Then we went to Europe and I discovered Grand Prix/ Grosser Preis/ Gran Premio machines.....
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Posted 01 April 2002 - 18:33
#26
Posted 01 April 2002 - 20:22
My first strong memory was of the Bathurst 1000 of the same year. I still remember like yesterday Steve Masterton (my fave driver of the time, what happened to him?)and Allan Moffatt bumping down to the first corner, and the huge accident back in the field that blocked the track. If i recall the TWR Rovers were right in the thick of it. Peter Brock went on to win in the very famous and beautiful day-glo red Marlboro Holden Commodore.
My first real F1 memory was Nige's tire blow out, Adelaide 86, although i must have watched the previous year because i remember alreay being a big Keke Rosberg fan, even though i don't recall watching the 85 race. Alas I had to wait until 93 to see the cars for myself
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#29
Posted 02 April 2002 - 02:51
My first real on track experience came at Skip Barber's school at the Moroso Raceway in FL. Because it was a school, there really wasn't that unbridled feeling that comes with taking your own stuff down off the truck, that happened at Willow Springs.
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Posted 02 April 2002 - 06:12
#31
Posted 02 April 2002 - 07:40
Originally posted by king_crud
My first memory I have of being at a race when i was 7, my dad took me to the last round of the Australian Touring Car championship in 1984 at Oran Park (My local and still favorite track to go to). I can't remember the name of the winning driver, but it was a one off for this guy, and he was driving a very nice looking green Mazda RX7 sponsored by the State Bank....
Sorry to hear about your favourite track choice...
That was Bob Morris..... Barry Jones involvement seems to come creeping to mind over this.
#32
Posted 02 April 2002 - 08:27
Originally posted by Gerr
Cabianca: Lloyd Axel was the chief mechanic for George Walther's No.77 "Dayton Steel Fdry. Special" that Fangio attempted to qualify at Indy in 1958. There is a very good article about the attempt (with a couple of pix of Axel) in the June '92 issue of "Sports Car International' by Tim Considine. I can send you a copy if you cannot find it in your locale.
Aha! The Lloyd Axel mystery is solved!
#33
Posted 02 April 2002 - 09:16
I visited my first Grand Prix in Belgium 1995. It was the one were Hill started 8th and Schumacher 16th. Both Ferraris were on the first row and we saw the field coming onto the Kemmel straight -- right after Eau Rouge -- four wide. Incredible!
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Posted 02 April 2002 - 14:35
#35
Posted 02 April 2002 - 15:20
The first motor race I attended was the BRDC International Trophy meeting at Silverstone in 1978. I remember getting very wet but loving every minute although I wasn't to impressed as three world champions spun in front of us at Abbey Corner while an unknown (to me anyway) won the race
#36
Posted 02 April 2002 - 15:40
Originally posted by Ray Bell
Sorry to hear about your favourite track choice...
That was Bob Morris..... Barry Jones involvement seems to come creeping to mind over this.
I love Oran Park to watch races, you can see the whole track. I haven't been for a few years as i detest the V8s, I used to watch the 2 litres and even saw a Nascar race there, on a saturday night. Steven Richards tyre shred and he was driving around on the steel belt, the sparks lit up as he sped down the main straight in the dark.
Originally posted by redfiveoz
Rowley Park ( formerly in Adelaide's inner wetsern suburb's) - unbelievable noise ! ( circa 1973). Seeing Wayne Gardner leaving "squiggles" out of every corner during the Swann Series ( aboard CB1100R ) - 1985. Kevin Magee running out of road at AIR aboard 'Guzzi during endurance race - remounting and continuing at unabated pace with both wheels covered in mud.
My uncle used to go to the bikes every easter at Bathurst, and apparently one year he was camped up on the mountain, having a beer or three during the evening with his mates, when they spot Kevin Magee who decides to come over for a chat. Well they're chatting away and Kevin says to my uncle "how would you like a ride around the track", and of course my uncle said yes. By this time it was dark and my Kevin and my uncle had had quite a few beers, but off they went. Kevin didn't slow down one bit and he took my uncle around for three laps. Although it seems very dangerous when you think about it, my uncle loved very minute.
#37
Posted 02 April 2002 - 21:07
First race seen in person was an F3 race at Silverstone in 1986ish...the winner of the first support race (F Ford) was poor Roland Ratzenberger.
#38
Posted 02 April 2002 - 21:12
Originally posted by king_crud
I love Oran Park to watch races, you can see the whole track....
How I detest this reasoning! Sorry, king_crud, but I cannot agree.
I learned this at Longford, to have the cars out of sight for a time heightens the excitment of watching a race.
Also, this dangerous little place has killed far too many.
And how can you get excited about a Front Wheel Drive formula?
#39
Posted 02 April 2002 - 21:27
Originally posted by Don Capps
first racing memory is watching -- and hearing! -- stock cars at Lakewood Speedway in Atlana during the Summer of 1949 when I was 2 1/2 years old. I remember this because we lived near the track (Dad was stationed at Fort McPherson then) and I wanted to go to the races. Dad and several friends were pretty much regulars at the track.
i loved lakewood, and although i never saw cars race there, the mile track was a great place for the AMA race, or at least until the last one where the riot broke out. i think that day may have been the fastest i ever ran. don, did you ever see the champ cars run there or just the stockers?
also, did you ever see the midgets race at the track on fair st near lakewood? i have no idea exactly where the track was, and have never been able to find anyone who was there and could tell m it is also possible that the "fair street" where the midget track was was a different fair street than the one which now runs from lakewood to stewart avenue.
also (again), old maps show a oval race track on clairmont where the VA hospital now sits... any rememberance of that?
of course the site of hartsfield international airport in atlanta was originally supposed to be a 2.5 mile track, which was never finished. as late as into the mid 70's when they built another runway, you could still see one remaining banked corner flying in or out.
my own first memory was of F1 reports in road and track and stories in the newspaper of the indy 500. while my dad took me to see a nascar race at the atlanta track, i was too little to enjoy it, and i think i spent most of the day at the concession stand to avoid the noise. my 1st race i went to that i can really remember is the 1st canam race at road atlanta.
my oler son raced quarter midgets, starting to practice at 4 and beginning the week after his 5th birthday, and claims that he doesn't remember not racing. he's now 17 and off to college next year, and just yesterday told me that he never realized how lucky he was to be able to do that.... like beford, i think he thought it was something everybody did.
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Posted 02 April 2002 - 21:40
#41
Posted 03 April 2002 - 10:06
Nice quote of Rik : Neil, Neil orange peel, when will I see you again
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Posted 03 April 2002 - 18:53
#43
Posted 03 April 2002 - 19:03
Wasn't that the race where Eddie Cheever totalled his BMW in practice for his first outing for the (in)famous BMW Junior squad?Originally posted by xjohnnyjaguarx
zolder 1977 the bergisher lowe is must have been 6 still remember the likes of stommelen , wollek,winkelhock,surer and cheever and more battlin it out it was the most awesome machinery ever i still love those gr 5 beasts i still remember seein bob wollek walkin around in the pits bc it was the fave driver of my dad at the time!!!
#44
Posted 03 April 2002 - 20:00
year ,both at zolder. i still have pics of one of the meetings or both that my dad took but i cant make out which meeting was what
#45
Posted 05 April 2002 - 18:13
He took me horse racing, to an athletics meeting as well as the regular visits to watch soccer, but then on Easter Monday 1957 the family travelled by train down to Goodwood.
I was 7 years old and once I had seen Vanwalls, Connaughts etc etc, my future was assured. I never went to watch horses or humans racing again, but I have been to watch motor racing once or twice since.......
#46
Posted 06 April 2002 - 03:57
Or if live, 1967, practice for mexican GP, dad took me, big shot in sports knows everyone so we go to the pits and see real Jim Clark in green car. Almost as if I had seen a God, didn't even dare to speak, just watched in silent admiration of the man, how he entered the car, lift the face mask to cover the nose and left.
In a few more hours the 34th anniversary of his death will be here, and it will be a Sunday again. I still hate Hockenheim, I still take out his picture and pray for him a little bit.....
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Posted 06 April 2002 - 11:06
#48
Posted 06 April 2002 - 11:28
The track was in the valley behind my parents house and we could see most of the track from the back window of the house.
I don't know which was the first meeting (or year) that I can remember because the track was just there, so whenever the cars were there we were watching them!
The track opened in 1961 and held race meetings till 1970 although there were sprints and rallycross and things up till 2000. I was born in 1963 and have been hooked ever since, from the moment I was born there have been race cars in my backyard!
Michael.