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[Joe Fan]

I recommend this game to everyone. It can be picked up for as low as $30 which is great for a new game. And it is a lot of fun!! If you aren't from the US and want to get an idea of what the most exciting oval racing in the world is, then you need to buy this game. It has a little historical movie that you can play which will shed light on how this grassroots form of racing evolved into what it is today. Plus, it has the majority of the current World of Outlaws sprints cars driven by stars like Steve and Mark Kinser, Slammin' Sammy Swindell, Danny "The Dude" Lasoski, Stevie Smith, etc. Of interest to Aussies, it even has Brooke Tatnell's sprint car.

[JForce]

Should come out here....we regularly beat the Yanks and Aussies in the "test matches"....sprint cars are cool

[Joe Fan]

I am just starting the career mode which sort of like Grand Turismo where they give you so much money and you have to win races to improve your ride and to make it to the WoO level. This is an extremely tough game and definately the toughest oval type sim racing game I have ever played! I keep hitting the wall or colliding with another car which means that I am having to spend more money on the car to repair it, than I am winning in the race.

[Flying Panda]

I have DTRSC for PC, it rules, but believe me, it dosent compare with real life, trust me

[The Swerve]

'The World of Outlaws'? I think I'll pass thanks.

[Flying Panda]

Originally posted by The Swerve
'The World of Outlaws'? I think I'll pass thanks.

[teasing voice] You dont know what your missing !!! [/teasing voice]

[The Swerve]

I'll take the risk.;)

[Joe Fan]

Originally posted by The Swerve
'The World of Outlaws'? I think I'll pass thanks.

Swerve, have you ever been to a World of Outlaws sprint car race or even watched one on TV? It is the most exciting open wheel racing you'll ever see in person. World of Outlaws sprinters have the highest horsepower to weight ratio of any racing machine today. 750-815 horsepower engines on cars that weigh 1150 pounds (523 KG).

[Linus27]

The game was brilliant on the PC. If this PS2 title ever comes to the UK then I will get it.

[Jason]

Looks like a lot of people liked the game. http://www.videogame...Racing-2013.asp

I don't have a PS2. Too much of a GPL fan, myself...

[The Swerve]

Originally posted by Joe Fan


Swerve, have you ever been to a World of Outlaws sprint car race or even watched one on TV? It is the most exciting open wheel racing you'll ever see in person. World of Outlaws sprinters have the highest horsepower to weight ratio of any racing machine today. 750-815 horsepower engines on cars that weigh 1150 pounds (523 KG).

I find it difficult to take a series that calls itself 'The World of Outlaws' seriously.

[Joe Fan]

Originally posted by The Swerve


I find it difficult to take a series that calls itself 'The World of Outlaws' seriously.

The name "Outlaw" is derived from the past. It was a term used to refer to drivers, who were usually sprint and midget car drivers from anywhere and everywhere, that competed in USAC events (especially the Indy 500) without having a USAC license. You were deemed an "outlaw" by USAC regulars in these situations. So when the series was formed, it was supposed to be the best collection of these type "outlaw" drivers. Hence the name "World of Outlaws."

The World of Outlaw series is considered the top rung for a sprint car driver in the US and the world. Most of the top drivers earn six figure incomes and then have their own motor coaches and souvenir trailers. So far, the only countries besides the US that takes sprint car racing seriously Australia and New Zealand. We have the best Australian sprint car drivers here currently (or eventually attract them) like Brooke Tatnell, Kerry Madsen and Skip "Action" Jackson.

[Pirelli1]

Originally posted by The Swerve


I find it difficult to take a series that calls itself 'The World of Outlaws' seriously.

Cars that have 900 Hp and weigh 1200 lbs. yeah I can't take that seriously at all

Seriously though, I too have this game and it is absolutely amazing in its simplicity. My only beef with it is that some of the tracks that were in the PC game didn't make it into the PS2 game.

I won't be upset if a couple of short-sighted snobs don't want to partake in the fun.

[Joe Fan]

Originally posted by Pirelli1


Cars that have 900 Hp and weigh 1200 lbs. yeah I can't take that seriously at all

Seriously though, I too have this game and it is absolutely amazing in its simplicity. My only beef with it is that some of the tracks that were in the PC game didn't make it into the PS2 game.

I won't be upset if a couple of short-sighted snobs don't want to partake in the fun.

Pirelli1, what tracks did they leave off?

I find the Pevely track to be the most difficult so far but I haven't unlocked some of the other ones yet. I just can't seem to get in a rhythm at the Pevely track for some reason. I think I am carrying too much speed into the corners and that track is extremely narrow to begin with.

Overall, this game is the toughest racing sim I have played to date. It is tougher than Grand Turismo.

[Pirelli1]

Originally posted by Joe Fan


The name "Outlaw" is derived from the past. It was a term used to refer to drivers, who were usually sprint and midget car drivers from anywhere and everywhere, that competed in USAC events (especially the Indy 500) without having a USAC license. You were deemed an "outlaw" by USAC regulars in these situations. So when the series was formed, it was supposed to be the best collection of these type "outlaw" drivers. Hence the name "World of Outlaws."

The World of Outlaw series is considered the top rung for a sprint car driver in the US and the world. Most of the top drivers earn six figure incomes and then have their own motor coaches and souvenir trailers. So far, the only countries besides the US that takes sprint car racing seriously Australia and New Zealand. We have the best Australian sprint car drivers here currently (or eventually attract them) like Brooke Tatnell, Kerry Madsen and Skip "Action" Jackson.

Jeff Gordon spent some time racing Sprint Cars in Aus and NZ as I recall. Sprint Cars put on a better race on dirt than stock cars do IMO.

[Joe Fan]

Originally posted by Pirelli1


Jeff Gordon spent some time racing Sprint Cars in Aus and NZ as I recall. Sprint Cars put on a better race on dirt than stock cars do IMO.

Yep, you are really right on that. I enjoy all forms of motorsport and NASCAR is one of my favorites, but you haven't been to a real race unless you get dirt in your beer or in your ears!

The best place to watch the Outlaws is on a 3/8-mile banked track. 1/2-mile tracks are a bit too big in my opinion.

[Pirelli1]

Originally posted by Joe Fan


Pirelli1, what tracks did they leave off?

I find the Pevely track to be the most difficult so far but I haven't unlocked some of the other ones yet. I just can't seem to get in a rhythm at the Pevely track for some reason. I think I am carrying too much speed into the corners and that track is extremely narrow to begin with.

Overall, this game is the toughest racing sim I have played to date. It is tougher than Grand Turismo.

Hmm, Talledega short track for one. Also there were some 3/4 of a mile and one 1 mile track that were completely left out. There were also all sorts of 1/4 and 1/3 tracks that were left out.

Talledega short track was my favorite. It was short and flat and it required some nifty throttle manipulation and braking to get around. Overall I like the really short tracks like Silver Dollar Speedway.

Also, the great thing about this game is the setups. Its really hard to find what works the best under certain conditions. What works during qualifying won't work in the A Main because the track dries up and the cushion moves higher and higher up the track. It really does require ALOT of experimentation. Also anyone who says "all ovals are the same" would experience and eye opener in this game. I thought the same thing went I bought the PC game. I was sadly mistaken.

[Buford]

I used to race with the World Of Outlaws in real life against Steve Kinser, Sammy Swindell etc. Therefore, I have a hard time taking The Swerve seriously.

[Pirelli1]

Hey Joe Fan, If you have a good setup for Bristol feel free to share it. That track still baffles me.

[Joe Fan]

Originally posted by Pirelli1
Hey Joe Fan, If you have a good setup for Bristol feel free to share it. That track still baffles me.

I have been playing it rather sparingly since I am involved with so much right now. I haven't raced there in the career mode yet. The arcade mode is much easier than the career mode and I just use the setups they already had. If I find a good setup for any track, I will let you know. Right now, I am as green as they come and I am getting my arse handed to me.

Definately, you are right that no oval on this game is the same. It is a real balancing act between car control and exhuberance. You really have to feather the throttle just right entering the corners on most of these tracks or else you will collide with another car or hit the wall. Exiting the corner can be hard too if you do like I do and power out of them too hard. Then you do the straight wobble and have to gather it up again. This game is a real bitch at times!

[The Swerve]

Originally posted by Buford
I used to race with the World Of Outlaws in real life against Steve Kinser, Sammy Swindell etc. Therefore, I have a hard time taking The Swerve seriously.

Never heard of em but I'm sure you all had lots of fun in your little buggy car things.;)

[Buford]

Yeah it was fun and with the power to weight ratio better than a F1 car, open wheels and actual passing, it was kind of like real racing among actual men too. We had one race at Sedelia, Mo where there were 36 drivers entered and when the day was over, 13 were in the hospital.

[Flying Panda]

Originally posted by The Swerve
Never heard of em but I'm sure you all had lots of fun in your little buggy car things.;)

I have to say, i consider you a very shallow individual, but of course I would, being the biased speedway driver I am.

Originally posted by Buford
Yeah it was fun and with the power to weight ratio better than a F1 car, open wheels and actual passing,

Two words. real racing

[The Swerve]

Originally posted by Flying Panda

I have to say, i consider you a very shallow individual, but of course I would, being the biased speedway driver I am.

Good for you. If that's what you think then my opinion shouldn't bother you too much. I'm not saying it's not racing but it's not racing that I can really get excited about and I don't have any interest in a simulator of funny looking buggies on dirt tracks. Sorry.

[Rob G]

I just rented WoO a couple of days ago, and it's a lot of fun. I've just been doing the arcade mode and haven't even touched the car set-ups yet, but the cars are a blast to drive. One question, though: what do you need to do to unlock the "unavailable" tracks?

[Joe Fan]

Originally posted by Rob G
I just rented WoO a couple of days ago, and it's a lot of fun. I've just been doing the arcade mode and haven't even touched the car set-ups yet, but the cars are a blast to drive. One question, though: what do you need to do to unlock the "unavailable" tracks?

I am not sure but I think you have to progess up the ladder in the career mode to unlock them. I will warn you right now, the career mode is so much tougher than the arcade mode, that it probably will take considerable time and practice in order to unlock them.

[Pirelli1]

Originally posted by The Swerve


Good for you. If that's what you think then my opinion shouldn't bother you too much. I'm not saying it's not racing but it's not racing that I can really get excited about and I don't have any interest in a simulator of funny looking buggies on dirt tracks. Sorry.

Geez what an ass.....

[The Swerve]

You're right of course. Everyone should think as you do.

[LB]

Actually Swerve - Sprint Cars are one of the best things I have ever seen live

[Rob G]

I remember reading an article about somebody taking CART driver Patrick Carpentier to an Outlaws race. He was completely blown away by the whole experience. I wish I'd saved that article.

[Avalon]

Originally posted by Buford
Yeah it was fun and with the power to weight ratio better than a F1 car, open wheels and actual passing, it was kind of like real racing among actual men too. We had one race at Sedelia, Mo where there were 36 drivers entered and when the day was over, 13 were in the hospital.

and you call them serious racers?
have to agree with swerve. there is much more to a serious top motorsport series than an impressive HP/weight ratio.

It might look spectacular, but so do the karting races.
I too have a hard time taking a series with such a name seriously.
neither do I think that dirt tracks and six figure sums attract the best drivers.
US is not the whole world.

Though the game might be a fun though... a really silly name, but could be fun.

[Flying Panda]

Originally posted by Avalon
It might look spectacular, but so do the karting races.
I too have a hard time taking a series with such a name seriously.
neither do I think that dirt tracks and six figure sums attract the best drivers.
US is not the whole world.

Though the game might be a fun though... a really silly name, but could be fun.

So what bad about the game? It has a 'silly' name, That dosent make the real life racing silly.

And it's not just the US.
Australia and New Zealand too.

[Pirelli1]

Originally posted by Rob G
I remember reading an article about somebody taking CART driver Patrick Carpentier to an Outlaws race. He was completely blown away by the whole experience. I wish I'd saved that article.

Jimmy Vasser used to own an Outlaws team. I once read in an interview with him that Outlaws is the only other kind of racing I'd pay to watch.

[Pirelli1]

Originally posted by Avalon


and you call them serious racers?
have to agree with swerve. there is much more to a serious top motorsport series than an impressive HP/weight ratio.

It might look spectacular, but so do the karting races.
I too have a hard time taking a series with such a name seriously.
neither do I think that dirt tracks and six figure sums attract the best drivers.
US is not the whole world.

Though the game might be a fun though... a really silly name, but could be fun.

Oh gawwwwwwd. What exactly is a "serious racer? Alex Yoong? LOL I wish some people could brush their elitist tendencies aside for a sec. Does "The World of Outlaws" sound too WWFish for you or something? This series has been called that since before the WWF even existed. And if you ever saw these guys race in person you question the logic of your own statement.

Personally, CART is my favorite series followed closely by F1 and then maybe a few other series. But let me tell you its seems easy to poo poo Sprint Cars for its "Silly" name and whatever other bigoted idea you can come up with but WoO is anything but inimpressive.

[100cc]

Originally posted by Avalon

and you call them serious racers?
have to agree with swerve. there is much more to a serious top motorsport series than an impressive HP/weight ratio.

It might look spectacular, but so do the karting races.

Hey, that wasn't a diss at karting was it??


I've seen this world of outlaws stuff on TV several times, or other similar sprint car races. The problem is, I've only seen crash highlights, NEVER actually an entire race. Its VERY difficult to get interested if all you see is crashes.

Saying 36 started and 13 were in hospital after the event doesn't make it any more of a serious sport, only more dangerous. I saw on tv a Cheese rolling contest thing. A big chunk of cheese was rolled down a steep grass hill and then hundreds of people ran after it. The first at the finish line was the winner. I'm sure half of them were in hospital by the end of the day as well, because of broken bones from rolling down the hill.

When I saw the "36 started" I thought you'd continue it by saying, they all qualified within 5 tenths or something.

I've played a demo of one sprint car race thing before, and I rather enjoyed it, but the physics were pretty crappy. I'm sure this one is a lot better by the sound of it. Perhaps I'll pick up a copy if I see it.

If I'd see full heats, and maybe if I saw an event live, it might actually be great to watch. It seems as if half the people watch the stuff only for the crashes, which is sad.

They do look like a lot of work goes into the cars though, and setting them up must be a challenge, as well as driving them in a straight line I'd imagine(staggered tyres etc.)...It looks very sad to see the frames bent because of a crash in their first event though.

[Avalon]

Originally posted by 100cc


Saying 36 started and 13 were in hospital after the event doesn't make it any more of a serious sport, only more dangerous.

that was my point exactly!

[Flying Panda]

Originally posted by 100cc
I've seen this world of outlaws stuff on TV several times, or other similar sprint car races. The problem is, I've only seen crash highlights, NEVER actually an entire race. Its VERY difficult to get interested if all you see is crashes.

Arent tohe the only highlights of any racing on TV ???

Saying 36 started and 13 were in hospital after the event doesn't make it any more of a serious sport, only more dangerous.

How so? 13 hospitalised in a one-off event doest not make it any more dangerous than any other type of motorsport. Karting, Motorcycling and any other type of motorsport where the driver has no protection is less safe than SC.

If I'd see full heats, and maybe if I saw an event live, it might actually be great to watch. It seems as if half the people watch the stuff only for the crashes, which is sad.

I'm certain you would find it marvelous, bet it has to be live. You just dont get the same thing on TV.
And it is sad. Look at the NASCAR episode of the Simpsons. Everyone in the crowd was cheering for a crash, I know it's just a cartoon, but it's pretty realistic there.

They do look like a lot of work goes into the cars though, and setting them up must be a challenge, as well as driving them in a straight line I'd imagine(staggered tyres etc.)...It looks very sad to see the frames bent because of a crash in their first event though.

Believe it or not, the frames are pretty indestructable, everthing theing else on the car, unfortuanatly is the opposite.

And we have found with our F500's once you get a good set up, you only have to make a few minor adjustments and that set up will run great everywhere.

[100cc]

Originally posted by Flying Panda

Arent tohe the only highlights of any racing on TV ???

Nope.

How so? 13 hospitalised in a one-off event doest not make it any more dangerous than any other type of motorsport. Karting, Motorcycling and any other type of motorsport where the driver has no protection is less safe than SC.

I was trying to say that saying 13 were hospitalised in doesn't make the sport any more serious, It can only really make it seem more dangerous.


What do you mean when you say that a karting driver has no protection?

I can't say on anything on wether or not SC is safer than Karting, since I don't know anything about SC's. I've been searching the internet for safety regulations(driver specific) for SC's, but haven't been able to find any, for karting safety regulations head over to fia.com.

All I could find was that fuel tanks had to be polyethylene plastic, and almost everything on the car has to be made of steel, such as the front/rear bumpers.

[100cc]

OK, I found some, from "2002 ALL STAR CIRCUIT OF CHAMPIONS"


17. Flame retardant driver suit and gloves are required. Arm restraints and 5-point hitch 3" wide seat belts are required. Driver must wear full face Snell approved helmet any time car is fired off.

SUGGESTED SAFETY EQUIPMENT
o Driver suit be a minimum of two layers
o Underwear, head sock, gloves, foot socks and shoes should all be flame retardant.
o Neck collars.
o Head rest padding.
o Right headnet or support. Headnet equipped with a quick release capability.
o Knee pads or padded steering.
o Fuel/ Fume detector
o Padding on safety bars

[Flying Panda]

Originally posted by 100cc
What do you mean when you say that a karting driver has no protection?

I want talking about protction from fire at all.
I mean in a serious high speed accident, there there is nothing stopping the driver/drider from getting launched and injured, whereas most other open wheelers drivers have restraints and cars are equipped with roll-hoops, etc. protecting the drivers/riders.

[100cc]

Originally posted by Flying Panda

I want talking about protction from fire at all.
I mean in a serious high speed accident, there there is nothing stopping the driver/drider from getting launched and injured, whereas most other open wheelers drivers have restraints and cars are equipped with roll-hoops, etc. protecting the drivers/riders.

In karting its better to get launched out of the kart than it is to be buckled in if it flips over.

Actually, karting drivers don't have protection from fire. Its not needed. I don't know anyone who has ever seen any kart catch fire, although I'm sure it HAS happened, it is very rare, and since there are no safety harnesses, it only takes a couple of seconds for a driver to get out of a kart.

[The Swerve]

Fire hazard is pretty remote in a Kart. I've also never ever seen it happen. I've seen karts flip over but never catch fire.

[Flying Panda]

Like I said, I wan not at all refering to the drivers protection from fire.

How many race cars have you seen catch in fire recently ?

[100cc]

Originally posted by Flying Panda

How many race cars have soo see catrch in fire recently ?

eh? Translation please.;)

I don't know. There was a bit of fire from one of the CART cars in a recent oval races, and who knows if the methanol burns afterwards?


But karting drivers DO have protection. What do you think the sidepods(very effective!) naussea panels and nose cones are for? The suits, helmets, shoes, and gloves?

[Turbo]

Cool! The Outlaws rock! If you ever have a chance to see these guys race in person DEFINITELY do it! I've been a handful of times and it's a blast. And I'm a road-racing fanatic! It definitely loses something on TV, but occasionally even then it's still worth watching. They had some terrific onboard footage the last time I watched.

I'll definitely give the game a rent and see what I think.

[Brent]

Sorry if i missed it, but is there a link i can go to, to read more about this game?

I just went to http://store.gamezon...oduct.x?1455942 and found this game called DIRT TRACK RACING: SPRINT CARS.

Is this what you're talking about here? Oh and btw, only pc links thanks. I'll get a ps2 one day, but it's not high on my list of....toys

[Flying Panda]

Brent - DTRSC, from Ratbag games is about 12 months old now, and it is the game I have, so if you only have a PC, and not a PS2, i highly reccoment it