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#1 Locai

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Posted 30 April 2002 - 16:27

What are the points tiebreakers for the WDC and WCC?

My understanding is that it's the following:

1) Team with highest finish position.
2) Team with most finishes at that postion.
3) Team that was first to finish at that position.


Am I right or wrong?

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#2 Ursus

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Posted 30 April 2002 - 16:36

In event of a tie in points the number of wins will decide, if that don't settle it then compare the number of second places and so on until there's a winner. If two teams have exaclty the same fiishes then the FIA will make up a way to differentiate between them.

#3 tifoso

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Posted 30 April 2002 - 16:45

It's one of the FIA's typically vague rules:

DEAD HEAT
25) Prizes and points awarded for all the positions of competitors who tie, will be added together and shared equally.
26) If two or more constructors or drivers finish the season with the same number of points, the higher place in the Championship (in either case) shall be awarded to:
a) the holder of the greatest number of first places
b) if the number of first places is the same, the holder of the greatest number of second places
c) if the number of second places is the same, the holder of the greatest number of third places and so on until a winner emerges
d) if this procedure fails to produce a result, the FIA will nominate the winner according to such criteria as it thinks fit.

26.d is my favorite.;)

#4 Locai

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Posted 30 April 2002 - 17:30

Thanks guys.

I knew I was close. I guess I was right with the first two (I just didn't quite know how to correctly state it). I don't know where I got the third one from, though.

#5 Scudetto

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Posted 30 April 2002 - 18:31

Originally posted by tifoso
d) if this procedure fails to produce a result, the FIA will nominate the winner according to such criteria as it thinks fit.


Nice. What criteria could that be?

a. Mosely picks a number from a hat
b. Winner is whichever driver/team has contributed the most to the FIA Foundation;
c. Winner is whichever driver/team has insulted or criticised Mosley or the FIA the least during the season
d. Defer to Bernie
e. Sudden death round at Osterreichring

#6 tifoso

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Posted 30 April 2002 - 18:54

Originally posted by Scudetto
Nice. What criteria could that be?

a. Mosely picks a number from a hat
b. Winner is whichever driver/team has contributed the most to the FIA Foundation;
c. Winner is whichever driver/team has insulted or criticised Mosley or the FIA the least during the season
d. Defer to Bernie
e. Sudden death round at Osterreichring

f. Least number of penalties
g. Least amount of fines for speeding in pitlane
h. Least amount of protests submitted to the FIA
i. Least amount of whining in the press
j. FIA favoritism of Ferrari (according to many on this BB)

The list is endless. I'm sure we've just scratched the surface.;)

#7 tombr

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Posted 30 April 2002 - 19:11

Scenario - Michael & Rubens are tied at the end of the year. They are still tied after all of the tiebreakers. Bernie takes out a coin, tosses it in the air, and yells "Rubens! Heads or tails?". Rubens yells "Heads!", the coin promptly bursts into flames, and Michael is awarded the WDC.

#8 Zmeej

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Posted 30 April 2002 - 19:33

:lol: :lol:

Very mystical!

#9 stevew

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Posted 30 April 2002 - 19:44

Here's how I would decide the championship (drivers)...

1. If one of the drivers in a points tie is the defending WDC, then that driver retains the title.

2. If none of the drivers in a points tie is the defending WDC, then the driver with the most wins is WDC.

2b. If there is a tie in the number of wins (see 2 above), then the driver scoring the first win is WDC.


Simple...

#10 bock16

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Posted 01 May 2002 - 05:04

How about the driver driving the car which finished lower in the constructors championship?

#11 Amnios

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Posted 01 May 2002 - 10:24

Originally posted by Ursus
If two teams have exaclty the same fiishes then the FIA will make up a way to differentiate between them.


Yeah, they'll let Ferrari win :rotfl:

#12 Amnios

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Posted 01 May 2002 - 10:25

Originally posted by tifoso
It's one of the FIA's typically vague rules:

26.d is my favorite.;)


As I said, they'll let Ferrari win :lol:

#13 Liam

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Posted 01 May 2002 - 10:42

A game of chicken?

How about rock scissors paper?

Best pit babes?

They could just repeat the criteria with qualifying, i.e no of pole positions, seconds etc.

#14 mikedeering

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Posted 01 May 2002 - 11:25

Originally posted by tifoso

f. Least number of penalties
g. Least amount of fines for speeding in pitlane
h. Least amount of protests submitted to the FIA
i. Least amount of whining in the press
j. FIA favoritism of Ferrari (according to many on this BB)

The list is endless. I'm sure we've just scratched the surface.;)


Max should throw the decision open to the AtlasF1 BB -

WDC goes to driver adjudged to have the worst car - admit it, the F2002 is a tank...