
1905 races
#1
Posted 23 May 2002 - 17:58
Cuba
February 13 (?), 1905
St. Cristobal - Havana 160 km
1. Carricaburu - Mercedes 90 hp - 1:50.53
2. Tracy - Renault 40 hp - 1:52.06
3. Robinson - De Dietrich 40 hp - 2:30.16
4. Birk - Mercedes 90 hp - 2:34.25
India
Delhi - Bombay
1. ? - De Dietrich 24 hp
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#2
Posted 23 May 2002 - 18:26
And, before you ask, I have no other information on the race

#3
Posted 23 May 2002 - 20:02

#4
Posted 23 May 2002 - 21:39
On February 15, 1905, the Havana-San Christobal race was billed to take place over 200kms - the race being part of a speed week 'like that at Ormond Beach, Daytona, Florida, including power boat races offshore'.
'La France Automobile' February 18, 1905 page 102 -
The 100 miles (sic - a change of '200kms' in the prior publicity) race in Cuba was a most dynamic success and attracted not only a great number of the inhabitants of the island but also as many Americans. The starters were:
Fletcher - 80hp Dietrich
Carricaburu - 90hp Mercedes
Tracy - 60hp Renault
Brik - 90hp Mercedes (later spelled 'Birk'), and
Robinson - 40hp Dietrich
At San Christoval (sic) - 79kms from the start - Tracy held the lead in 51 mins 22 and 3/5 seconds - followed very closely by Carricaburu.
(Then something beyond my accurate translation capabilities - "Un choc qui lui fit perdre ses batteries et le siege de son mecanicien le mit presque hors de courses". HELP?)
Fletcher, big favourite on his 80hp Dietrich lost around 6 minutes changing his tyres and then 36 minutes during which he had to solder a split in the fuel tank. The finish was in the following order:
1 - Carricaburu Mercedes '90' in 1hr 50mins 53 2/5secs
2 - Tracy 40hp (sic) Renault 1:52.26
3 - Robinson 40hp Dietrich 2:30.16
4 - Birk (sic) 90hp Mercedes2:34.25
Some record runs were made and the following constitute local speed records:
Fletcher - 1 mile in 45 secs - 1km in 28 3/5 secs - 5kms in 3:4 1/5 - 10kms in 5:57s - 20kms in 11:18 1/5s.
Tracy - 1 mile in 52 secs.
Mendoza (40hp De Dietrich) 1 mile in 53secs.
THE DELHI-BOMBAY
Got some pix of this event - A De Dion-Bouton won the Coupe du Rajah de Kapurthala - no driver named but maybe it simply means that said Rajah in his De Dion won 'The Coupe Delhi-Bombay'???
M.W. Sorel in a 24hp De Dietrich won the Concours Delhi-Bombay - however - which sounds like the event overall???
DCN
#5
Posted 23 May 2002 - 22:25
Originally posted by Doug Nye
"Un choc qui lui fit perdre ses batteries et le siege de son mecanicien le mit presque hors de course".
On a goodwill basis...
An accident as a result of which he lost his battery(ies) and his mechanic´s seat almost put him out of the race.
#7
Posted 24 May 2002 - 08:55
1: The Cuban GP, Doug notes a race distance of 100 miles, how long was the track and/or number of laps was the race run over ?
2: Doug do you possibly have a result for the event ?


#8
Posted 24 May 2002 - 12:26
Quintin, this is the same race Andrzej mentioned at the top of the thread. The course was from Arroya Arenas (possibly a suurb of Havana) to San Cristobel and back to Arroya Arenas, presumably on public roads. My guess is the results posted by Andrzej and Doug are all you'll get ;)Originally posted by quintin cloud
The Cuban GP, Doug notes a race distance of 100 miles, how long was the track and/or number of laps was the race run over ?
#9
Posted 24 May 2002 - 18:14
DCN
#10
Posted 24 May 2002 - 18:37
Doug, you are unfailing.
Andrzej
#11
Posted 24 May 2002 - 19:33
it is Arroyo Arenas and San Cristóbal
In local quotation, Havana would appear as La Habana and
if you want to abbreviate a San (Saint) you do not use St. but just S.
Un abrazo
Felix
#12
Posted 24 May 2002 - 21:27
#13
Posted 19 February 2003 - 17:05
1st Victor Demogeot, Darracq 80CV (1905 Gordon-Bennett type), "almost" 60 mph
2nd Maurice Bernin, Renault 60CV (1904 Vanderbilt type)
etc.
Retired:
Vincenzo Lancia, FIAT, lost mechanic on lap 1
Emanuel Cedrino, FIAT, accident on lap 1
etc.
Anyone with more info? How many laps? What circuit? What distance? Winner's time? Other finishers/starters? What type of FIATs, 75 or 110 HP?
About Tracy's Renault in 1905, I gather this is the same car that Bernin used in 1906, i.e a 60 HP. I don't know of any 40 HP Renault at the time. The 60 HP was owned by an American (Gould-Brokaw) and did not yet have the underslung frame of the 1905 cars. The 40 HP De Dietrich would then probably be a 45CV, the 1903 Madrid type.
#14
Posted 19 September 2003 - 18:37
After the speed Ormond Beach meeting in Floride (January, 22 to 28), a motosport meeting was organised in Cuba on february, 12th, 1906. There were only 4 starters : Demogeot (Darracq), Bernin (Renault), Lancia and Cedrino (F.I.A.T).
results: 1 Demogeot, 4 laps of 87.5 km (350 km) in 3 h 38 m 18 s 4/5 (96.3 kph)
The two Italian cars crashed, being victims of the very bad roads. Lancia's riding mechanic was thrown out of the car (as also said Gerald Rose).
The accident of Cedrano was more important; the driver was slightly hurt but his mechanic was to be rushed to an Habana's hospital.
"La Vie automobile" was a French publication.
#15
Posted 24 September 2003 - 23:37
Starting order, from 3 to 3 minutes.
1- Bernin, 2- Lancia, 3- Cedrino, 4- Demogeot.
results, 1- Demogeot (former mechanic of Victor Hémery), 2- Bernin.
After this race, there were also a match between 3 wealthy Cuban drivers:
Luis Marx (Mercedes)
Julio Rabel (Bayard-Clément)
Juan Aguiles (Mors).
They started just after the international race and had to cover 175 km. The stake was a kitty of 15,000 $. And the results was:
1- Rabel, 175 km, 2 h 04m 52s
2- Aguiles, 2 h 05m 31s
3- Marx, 2h 14m 02s.
On Saturday 17th, February, Cedrino, Lancia and Demogeot went on board of the St-Paul to come back in Europa, while Bernin returned to New York.
I have also found something about the 1905 Cuba race meeting...
#16
Posted 25 September 2003 - 15:42
Waiting in an.......................................................ticipation!Originally posted by Marcor
I have also found something about the 1905 Cuba race meeting...
#17
Posted 30 September 2003 - 01:18
After the Ormond Beach Speed Meeting (short sum up each day), the newspaper published the entry list of the Cuba race on Thursday 14 February 1905:
O. E. Thomas, 80 HP De Dietrich, driver = Fletcher
Colonel Millers, 40 HP Renault, driver = Joe Tracy
Marx, 90 HP Mercedes, driver = Joseph Birks
Conill, 90 HP Mercedes, driver = Ernesto Carricaburu
Mendoza, 40 HP De Dietrich, driver = E. Robinson.
Robinson is said to be the mechanic of O. E. Thomas.
On Wednesday 15th, February they gave the results of the 100 miles race:
1- Carricaburu, 1h 50m 53s 1/5
2- Tracy, 1h 52m 26s
3- Robinson, 2h 30m 16s 4/5
4- Birk, Mercedes, 2h 34m 25s 1/5
#18
Posted 11 October 2003 - 13:32
Around September 1904, The Motor Union of Western India announced a new motorsport contest for December 1904 / January 1905, a 8-days reliability trials, not a speed event (as the maximim speed would be 30 mph).
1st day, December 26th, 1904: Delhi - Agra, 128 miles
2nd day, December 27th, 1904: Agra - Cwalior, 71 miles
3rd day, December 28th, 1904: Cwalior - Goona, 127 miles
4th day, December 29th, 1904: Goona - Sarangpur, 94 miles
5th day, December 30th, 1904: Sarangpur - Indore, 74 miles
6th day, December 31th, 1904: Indore - Dhulia, 145 miles
7th day, January 1st, 1905: Dhulia - Nasik, 97 miles
8th day, January 2nd, 1905: Nasik - Bombay, 147 miles.
The result was only for amateurs, ie each entry was to be made by the owner of the car.
From le Matin (November 1904)
Cars expected / promised : Darracq, Richard-Brasier, Bayard-Clément, de Dietrich, de Dion-Bouton, F.I.A.T., Mercedes and some british cars...
#19
Posted 12 October 2003 - 03:35

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#20
Posted 12 October 2003 - 14:43
Fine performances were claimed for De Dion-Bouton cars which won the Maharajah of Mysore's trophy for the machine finishing in the best condition - plus the Maharajah of Kapurthala Cup for the car which had achieved the most 'regular' performance in each of the eight stages.
A Darracq was victiorious in the 'concours d'endurance' - while a Speedwell won the Maharajah of Gwalior Cup for best fuel economy.
DCN
#21
Posted 13 October 2003 - 08:32
And were there rubies and pearls, and some beautiful girls, along with lessons on how to do the rhumba?
#22
Posted 29 November 2005 - 23:33
#23
Posted 10 December 2005 - 18:40
#24
Posted 14 December 2005 - 08:40
#25
Posted 14 December 2005 - 09:43
Elsewhere in the world, Allan E Brown made mention of this championship and had Mark Dill provide him with some information on it. Here is what Dill gave Brown as the schedule:
June 10 - Morris Park, Bronx, NY
June 16 - Charter Oak, Hartford, MA
June 17 - Charter Oak, Hartford, MA
June 21 - Baltimore, MD (either Pimlico or Electric Park)
June 24 - Philadelphia, PA (either Point Breeze or Elmwood)
July 3 - Morris Park, Bronx, NY
July 4 - Morris Park, Bronx, NY
July 22 - Empire City, Yonkers, NY
Aug 1 - Grand Rapids Fairgrounds, MI (later called Grand Rapids Speedrome)
Aug 2 - Grand Rapids Fairgrounds, MI
Aug 4 - Detroit, MI (either Fairgrounds, Grosse Pointe or Highland Park)
Aug 5 - Detroit, MI (either Fairgrounds, Grosse Pointe or Highland Park)
Aug 11 - Glenville Driving Track, Cleveland, OH
Aug 12 - Glenville Driving Track, Cleveland, OH
Aug 18 - Keniworth Park, Buffalo, NY
Sep 4 - Readville, Boston, MA
Sep 9 - Narragansett Park, Providence, RI
Sep 23 - Morris Park, Bronx, NY
Sep 29 - Poughkeepsie, NY
Sep 30 - Empire City, Yonkers, NY
I have managed to find the following events for the national championship with the references for those events:
10 June, Morris Park -- New York Times 11 June 1905
16 June, Hartford, Charter Oak Park -- Washington Post 17 June 1905
17 June, Hartford, Charter Oak Park -- Boston Globe 18 June 1905; Washington Post 18 June 1905
26 June, Empire City -- New York Times 27 June 1905
28 June, Brunots Island -- 29 June 1905 Boston Globe; 29 June 1905 Chicago Tribune
29 June, Brunots Island -- 30 June 1905 Washington Post; 30 June Chicago Tribune.
3 July, Morris Park -- New York Times 4 July 1905; Atlanta Constitution 4 July 1905; Boston Globe 4 July 1905
4 July, Morris Park -- New York Times 5 July 1905; Washington Post 5 July 1905
7 August, Detroit, Grosse Pointe -- Atlanta Constitution 8 August 1905; Washington Post 8 August 1905
8 August, Detroit, Grosse Point -- Boston Globe 9 August; Washington Post 9 August 1905; Atlanta Constitution 9 August 1905; New York Times 9 August 1905
14 August, Cleveland -- Atlanta Constitution 15 August 1905; Washington Post 15 August 1905
18 August, Buffalo -- Chicago Tribune 19 August 1905; Boston Globe 19 August 1905; Los Angeles Times 19 August 1905; New York Times 19 August 1905; Washington Post 19 August 1905
19 August, Buffalo -- Washington Post 20 August 1905; Boston Globe 20 August 1905; New York Times 20 August 1905
9 September, Boston, Readville -- Boston Globe 10 September 1905; Washington Post 10 September 1905
23 September, Providence, Narragansett -- Boston Globe 24 September 1905
29 September, Poughkeepsie, Duchess County Fair -- New York Times 30 September 1905; Boston Globe 30 September 1905
I have been unable to find any articles on Grand Rapids event, nor the possible Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Empire City (30 Sept.) events that would tie them to the AAA national championship. Doesn't mean that they didn't happen -- the direction I am currently leaning in, I just haven't been to find information to confirm that they took place.
Unfortunately, I don't have access to any of the journals of the day, such as The Automobile, something which might help a great bit, especially since Dill mentions that there was coverage of the events in several of the journals.
This championship has been the topic of at least two discussions elsewhere and has generated a good bit of information, but -- as usual, alas! -- not much interest. I have little hope that the same will not happen here.
I have to tip my hat to John Printz, Allan Brown, Mark Dill, Brian Pratt, Phil Harms, and several others for taking the time to dredge this stuff up. I managed to pore through the various newspaper files I had access to and found more information that I ever hoped for on this. It took some digging and there was a lot of frustration, but the information was there, right under our noses.
The only place which seems to have addressed this recently is champcarstats.com which lays out one view of the championship and the appropriate tables.
I simply have not had the time to pull all the race reports together and do a "season review" for 1905, but it was quite a season and one that helps put several forces in American racing into both context and a better perspective. As always, you can't understand 1905 without looking at 1904 and 1906, for starters.....
#26
Posted 14 December 2005 - 09:58
#27
Posted 14 December 2005 - 12:49
It makes me sad to comment that I am unaware of any journal or commentator noting the centennial of the first AAA national championship. Nor was there exactly a groundswell of coverage for the W.K. Vanderbilt Jr. Cup last year.
Well, Barney Oldfield being the first AAA National Champion is as ironic a thing as I can imagine.... little wonder that the AAA Racing Board and later the Contest Board ever said much about it!
#28
Posted 14 December 2005 - 12:55
#29
Posted 16 December 2005 - 02:43
1. St. Louis 3 (USA) Delmar 3 (May 7) ? ( ? / ? )
2. New York 5 (USA) Morris Park 3 (May 20) ? ( ? / ? )
3. Chicago 10 (USA) Harlem 3 (May 30) ? ( ? / ? )
4. Cream City 5 (USA) Milwaukee-West Ellis 3 (Jun 2) Barney Oldfield (Peerless)
5. Hartford 5 (USA) 3 (Jun 17) Barney Oldfield (Peerless)
6. Pittsburgh 10 (USA) Brunots Island 3 (Jun 28) ? ( ? / ? )
7. Minneapolis 5 (USA) St. Paul-Hamline 3 (Jul 5) Barney Oldfield (Peerless)
8. Grosse Pointe 5 (USA) 3 (Aug 11) ? ( ? / ? )
9. Buffalo 5 (USA) Kenilworth 3 (Aug 19) Barney Oldfield (Peerless)
10. Readville 5 (USA) 3 (Sep 9) Barney Oldfield (Peerless)
11. Springfield (USA) 3 Barney Oldfield (Peerless)
12. Syracuse (USA) 3 Barney Oldfield (Peerless)
Plus, Darren Galpin has the following events containing championship rounds:
Morris Park, NY, 10th June 1905
Charter Oak, Hartford, CT, 16th-17th June 1905
Brunots Island, PA, 28th-29th June 1905
Morris Park, NY, 3rd-4th July 1905
Grosse Pointe, MI, 7th-11th August 1905
Glenville Driving Track, OH, 12th August 1905
Kenilworth, Buffalo, NY, 18th-19th August 1905
Hyde Park, MA, 9th September 1905
Narragansett Park, RI, 23rd September 1905
Right now, I would venture to suggest that the following are most likely the events which comprised the national championship:
10 June, Morris Park -- Louis Chevrolet
17 June, Hartford, Charter Oak Park -- Barney Oldfield
26 June, Empire City -- Louis Chevrolet
28 June, Brunots Island -- Barney Oldfield
29 June, Brunots Island -- Louis Chevrolet
4 July, Morris Park -- Webb Jay
8 August, Detroit, Grosse Point -- Webb Jay
14 August, Cleveland -- Charley Burman
19 August, Buffalo -- Barney Oldfield
9 September, Boston, Readville -- Barney Oldfield
23 September, Providence, Narragansett -- Barney Oldfield
29 September, Poughkeepsie, Duchess County Fair -- Barney Oldfield
#30
Posted 17 December 2005 - 23:17
Originally posted by HDonaldCapps
Right now, I would venture to suggest that the following are most likely the events which comprised the national championship:
10 June, Morris Park -- Louis Chevrolet
17 June, Hartford, Charter Oak Park -- Barney Oldfield
26 June, Empire City -- Louis Chevrolet
28 June, Brunots Island -- Barney Oldfield
29 June, Brunots Island -- Louis Chevrolet
4 July, Morris Park -- Webb Jay
8 August, Detroit, Grosse Point -- Webb Jay
14 August, Cleveland -- Charley Burman
19 August, Buffalo -- Barney Oldfield
9 September, Boston, Readville -- Barney Oldfield
23 September, Providence, Narragansett -- Barney Oldfield
29 September, Poughkeepsie, Duchess County Fair -- Barney Oldfield
Most of these races are also listed on
http://www.champcarstats.com/.
However the Empire City and Poughkeepsie results are not listed. I can't find them either on the files I got from Phil Harms.
Do you have details of these races.
Gerrit Stevens
#31
Posted 19 December 2005 - 03:19
Originally posted by gerrit stevens
Most of these races are also listed on
http://www.champcarstats.com/.
However the Empire City and Poughkeepsie results are not listed. I can't find them either on the files I got from Phil Harms.
Do you have details of these races.
Gerrit,
I am working on something that I will post here as soon as I can. My major problem is that I am working without having any information from either The Automobile or Motor Age for the 1905 season. I think Horseless Age stopped covering motor racing after a big flap over the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup.
I will endeavor to provide -- in the old RVM style -- some idea of what I have and where it seems to fit into what others -- such as the listing that Phil provided to you -- have generated on this topic. Needless to say, it is a bit of a mess at the moment.
I will try to post it here as soon as I get the time to double-check some items and sort a few things out.
Don
#32
Posted 25 December 2005 - 17:50
The American Automobile Association National Motor Car Championship for 1905
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Los Angeles Times, 14 May 1905, page III 3.
“The American Automobile Association will hold its first national championship track meet at Morris Park, New York City, July 3 and 4, its special committee having completed final arrangements with the Morris Park Motor Racing Club, the president of which is Dave Hennen Morris, who is also the president of the Automobile Club of America.“
“Races will be provided for all classes of cars, and many of the contests will carry a championship title.”
The Automobile, 18 May 1905, page 629.
Boston Globe, 21 May 1905, page 10.
“Announcement by the Automobile Association Racing Board Regarding 1905 Championship.
New York, May 20. Robert Lee Morrell, chairman of the American automobile association racing board, announced today that the track motor car championship of 1905 will be decided on the national circuit by a point score. In order to become eligible for the championship series an entrant must obligate himself to compete at all circuit meets as long as the point score places him in first or second position in the championship table. The current dates include:
June 10 – Morris Park, New York city
June 16 and 17, Hartford, Conn. Hartford athletic club
July 3 and 4, Amateur athletic association meet, Morris park, New York
July 24, Empire City track, New York
Sept. 4, Boston, Athletic club
Sept. 9, Providence, Athletic club
Sept. 23, Morris park, New York
Sept. 30, Empire City track, New York.”
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Morris Park
Bronx, New York
10 June 1905
4 laps of 1.39-mile track for 5.56 miles
Morris Park Motor Racing Club
Results
1st, Louis Chevrolet
Major C.J. S. Miller, Fiat 90
4 laps, 4 min 48.8 sec, 62.3 mph
2nd, Dan Wurgis
Reo Motor Car Company, Reo 32 Bird
4 laps, 5 min 30.0 sec, 54.5 mph
3rd, Guy Vaughn
Decauville Automobile Company, Decauville 40
2 laps, gasoline feed
Major C.J.S. Miller
Major C.J.S. Miller, Renault
Withdrawn
Boston Globe, 4 June 1905, page 31.
“The proposed 500-mile on the Morris Park track next Saturday has been abandoned. In the meet to be held there that day will be a circuit championship at five miles….”
New York Times, 11 June 1905, page 12.
“Three cars started in the five-mile championship, the first of the National circuit events of the season.”
Notes:
Major C.J.S. Miller just acquired the Renault 90 owned by William Wallace and driven by Wallace in the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup and by Chevrolet at Morris Park on 20 May.
Attendance: “About 3,000 persons saw the races…” (NYT, 11 June 1905, pg. 12)
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Charter Oak Park
Hartford, Connecticut
17 June 1905
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Hartford Automobile Club
Results
1st, Barney Oldfield
Peerless Motor Car Company, Peerless Green Dragon
5 laps, 5 min 01.4 sec, walkover
Washington Post, 17 June 1905, page 8.
Boston Globe, 18 June 1905, page 17.
“An exciting exhibition was given by Oldfield later in the afternoon. He responded for the championship race, five miles, for the A.A.A. national championship trophy, and was given the race in a walkover, thus securing four points.”
Washington Post, 18 June 1905, page 6.
The AAA national championship. Won by Oldfield. Time by miles, 1;02, 2:01 2-5, 3:01 1-5, 4:01 2-5, 5:01 2-5.”
Notes:
Attendance: 3,000
“What promised to be the star racing event, a pursuit race between Barney Oldfield in his Peerless Green Demon and Louis Chevrolet in the mammoth F.I.A.T. racing machine proved a fizzle. Oldfield, at the tape, started on the pistil signal, but the Frenchman’s car remained at the half-mile pole as if anchored. The second speed gear was stripped in going to the post, and the car was out of commission for the afternoon.” (BG, 18 June 1905, pg. 17)
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Free-for-All Event
16 June 1905
Heat No. 1
1 lap of 1.0-mile track for 1.0 miles
Results
1st, Louis Chevrolet
Major C.J.S. Miller, Fiat 90
1 lap, 1 min 03.4 sec
2nd, Barney Oldfield
Peerless Motor Car Company, Peerless Green Dragon
1 lap, 1 min 05 sec
Heat No. 2
1 lap of 1.0-mile track for 1.0 miles
Results
1st, Charles Soules
Pope-Toledo 30
1 lap, 1 min 08 sec
2nd, A.M. Roberts
Thomas Flyer
1 lap, flagged
Final
1 lap of 1.0-mile track for 1.0 miles
Results
1st, Louis Chevrolet
Major C.J.S. Miller, Fiat 90
1 lap, 1 min 03 sec
2nd, Barney Oldfield
Peerless Motor Car Company, Peerless Green Dragon
1 lap, 1 min 04.8 sec
(WP, 17 June 1905, pg. 8)
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Empire City
Yonkers, New York
26 June 1905
Heat No. 1
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Results
1st, Webb Jay
White Steam Car Whistling Billy
5 laps, 4 min 58 sec
2nd, Paul Satori
Alfred G. Vanderbilt, Fiat 90
5 laps, 5 min
Heat No. 2
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Results
1st, Louis Chevrolet
Major C.J.S. Miller, Fiat 90
5 laps
2nd, Montague Roberts
Harry S. Houpt, Thomas 60
Tire trouble
Final
10 laps of 1.0-mile track for 10.0 miles
Results
1st, Louis Chevrolet
Major C.J.S. Miller, Fiat 90
10 laps, walkover
2nd, Webb Jay
White Steam Car
3 laps, engine
New York Times, 27 June 1905, page 6.
“Louis Chevrolet carried off the honors of the day yesterday in the automobile races at the Empire City track, which had been postponed from Saturday. He won the third event in the series of National motor-car championships, and also triumphed over Barney Oldfield in the special two-thousand dollar match race arranged as the big feature of the meet.”
“National Motor Car Championship.”
Notes:
Attendance: “Nearly 2,000 persons gathered to see the big men whiz around the track.” (NYT, 27 June 1905, pg. 6)
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Brunot Island
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
28 June 1905
Pittsburgh Automobile Club
Heat No. 1
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Results
1st, Earl Kiser
Winton Bullet
5 laps, 4 min 44.4 sec
2nd, Louis Chevrolet
Major C.J.S. Miller, Fiat 90
5 laps, flagged
Heat No. 2
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Results
1st, Barney Oldfield
Peerless Motor Car Company, Peerless Green Dragon
5 laps, 4 min 50.2 sec
2nd, Earl Kiser
Winton Bullet
0 laps, broke down
Boston Globe, 29 June 1905, page 8.
Chicago Tribune, 29 June 1905, page 10.
Brunot Island
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
29 June 1905
10 laps of 1.0-mile track for 10.0 miles
Results
1st, Louis Chevrolet
Major C.J.S. Miller, Fiat 90
10 laps, 9 min 53.4 sec
2nd, Barney Oldfield
Peerless Motor Car Company, Peerless Green Dragon
10 laps, flagged
Washington Post, 30 June 1905, page 9.
“The closing day of the National Motor Championship races at Brunot’s Island track….”
“In the ten-mile championship free-for-all, Oldfield led up to the two and one-half-mile turn, when the Green Dragon’s engine went bad, and before Oldfield could get going again Chevrolet was three-quarters of a mile in the lead, which he maintained to the finish.”
Chicago Tribune, 30 June 1905, page 10.
“Kiser’s machine was so badly damaged yesterday he could not enter today.”
Notes:
“In the 10-mile free-for-all with Oldfield and Chevrolet competing, the former led for four and a half miles, when one of his rear tires burst. Chevrolet then took the lead and made the 10 miles in 10 minutes flat.” (BG, 29 June 1905, pg. 8)
Track owner: Gentleman’s Driving Association
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Morris Park
Bronx, New York
4 July 1905
1 lap of 1.39-mile track for 1.39 miles; originally scheduled for 4 laps of 1.39-mile track for 5.56 miles
Morris Park Motor Racing Club
Results
1st, Webb Jay
White Steam Car Whistling Billy
1 lap, walkover
2nd, Louis Chevrolet
Major C.J.S. Miller, Fiat 90
Did not start – cracked cylinder
Los Angeles Times, 2 July 1905, page III 1.
“The big cars entered for the national circuit championship include Webb Jay (White Steamer), Walter Christie, with his new 120-horsepower front and rear driver racer; Paul Satori with Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt’s ninety-horsepower Fiat; Louis Chevrolet, with Maj. C.J.S. Miller’s ninety-horsepower Fiat; Dan Wurgis, with the Reo Bird; W/Gould Brokaw, sixty-horsepower Renault; and Guy Vaughn with his Decauville, which holds the 1000-mile record.”
“The programme for the second day includes…the national circuit championship, open to all, at four laps.”
Boston Globe, 4 July 1905, page 8.
“While driving a 90-horsepower car in the heavyweight championship race, Paul Satori dashed through a fence, fatally injuring a boy named Joseph Holahan who was looking on, but escaped unhurt himself.”
New York Times, 4 July 1905, page 4.
Washington Post, 5 July 1905, page 9.
“The first event was the National Circuit Championship, free for all, four laps, 5.56 miles. Webb Jay and Louis Chevrolet were the only starters, but at the last moment the latter’s engine broke down and Jay took the race by default.”
New York Times, 5 July 1905, page 8.
“Owing to the cracking of a cylinder in Chevrolet’s car as he was to start in the National Circuit Championship, Jay won in a walkover, going once over the course.”
Elyria, Ohio, Elyria Reporter, 5 July 1905, page 2.
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Grosse Pointe
Detroit, Michigan
8 August 1905
Detroit Automobile Racing Association
Atlanta Constitution, 8 August 1905, page 9.
Washington Post, 8 August 1905, page 8.
Atlanta Constitution, 9 August 1905, page 8.
“After the accident had broken up the five mile event, Jay and Burman drove a five mile race instead, which Jay won in 5:21.”
Boston Globe, 9 August 1905, page 8.
“Barney Oldfield had an almost miraculous escape from death today at Grosse Point track, when Dan Wurgis’ machine came into collision with Oldfield’s car in the three-quarter stretch, during the first mile of the five-mile open event.”
“After the accident had broken up the five-mile open event, Jay and Burman drove a five-mile race in its stead, which Jay won in 5:12 2-5.”
Washington Post, 9 August 1905, page 9.
“Five-mile open - $150 purse; unfinished, owing to accident. Entries were as follows: Barney Oldfield, Cleveland; Webb Jay, Cleveland; Dan Wurgis, Lansing; Charles Burman, Cleveland.”
New York Times, 9 August 1905, page 4.
“Five-mile Open, $150 purse, unfinished owing to accident.”
Notes:
8 August 1905
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Results
1st, Webb Jay
White Steam Car Whistling Billy
5 laps, 5 min 21 sec
2nd, Charles “Charley” Burman
Peerless
5 laps, 5 min 28 sec
Barney Oldfield
Peerless Motor Car Company, Peerless Green Dragon
Crashed on first lap, did not restart
Dan Wurgis
Reo 32 Bird
Crashed on first lap, did not restart
Ten-mile Open
7 August 1905
10 laps of 1.0-mile track
1st, Webb Jay
White Steam Car Whistling Billy
10 laps, 9 min 36.6 sec
2nd, Barney Oldfield
Peerless Motor Car Company, Peerless Green Dragon
10 laps, flagged
(AC, 8 August 1905, pg. 9; WP, 8 August 1905, pg. 8)
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Glenville Driving Track
Cleveland, Ohio
14 August 1905
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Cleveland Automobile Club
Results
1st, Charles “Charley” Burman
Peerless
5 laps, 5 min 15.8 sec
2nd, Herbert Lytle
Pope-Toledo
5 laps, flagged
3rd, Webb Jay
White Steam Car Whistling Billy
Flagged
4th, Dan Wurgis
Reo Bird
Flagged
Atlanta Constitution, 15 August 1905, page 9.
“The five-mile national championship was won by Burman.”
Washington Post, 15 August 1905, page 9.
“After three of the regular events and a special exhibition by Barney Oldfield had been completed this afternoon, the remainder of the race meeting of the Cleveland Automobile Club were declared off on account of rain.”
“The five-mile national championship was won by Burman, Lytle and Jay having trouble with their cars, which caused Burman, who was third at the end of the third mile, to shoot ahead and win practically without opposition.”
“Five miles – National championship: free-for-all; $150 trophy. Charles Burman, Cleveland, won; H.H. Lytle, Toledo, second. Time 5:15 4-5. Webb Jay, Cleveland, and Dan Wurgis, Detroit, also started.”
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Kenilworth Park
Buffalo, New York
19 August 1905
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Buffalo Automobile Club
1st, Barney Oldfield
Peerless Motor Car Company, Peerless Green Dragon
5 laps, 4 min 52.6 sec
2nd, Montague Roberts
Thomas
5 laps, 4 min 58 sec
Chicago Tribune, 19 August 1905, page 1.
Boston Globe, 19 August 1905, page 2.
Los Angeles Times, 19 August 1905, page II 3.
New York Times, 19 August 1905, page 4.
Washington Post, 19 August 1905, page 1.
Articles on Webb Jay’s accident
Washington Post, 20 August 1905, page S 1.
“Barney Oldfield won the national championship for five miles in his green dragon. Montague Roberts was second. Oldfield’s time was 4:52 3-5.”
New York Times, 20 August 1920, page 8.
“Barney Oldfield won the National championship for five miles in his green dragon. Montague Roberts was second. Oldfield’s time was 4:52 3-5.”
Boston Globe, 20 August 1905, page 9.
Los Angeles Times, 20 August 1905, page III 1.
Winnipeg Free Press, 21 August 1905.
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Hyde Park
Readville, Massachusetts
9 September 1905
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Bay State Automobile Association
Heat No. 1
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Results
1st, Barney Oldfield
Peerless Motor Car Company, Peerless 60 Green Dragon
5 laps, 4 min 55.2 sec
2nd, Emanuel Cedrino
Fiat 24
Flagged
Heat No. 2
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Results
1st, Frank Durbin
Stanley Steamer 20 Runabout
5 laps, 5 min 45.2 sec
2nd, J.A. Crowell
Stanley Steamer 15
Flagged
Final
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Results
1st, Barney Oldfield
Peerless Motor Car Company, Peerless 60 Green Dragon
5 laps, 4 min 52 sec
2nd, Emanuel Cedrino
Fiat 24 Junior
5 laps, 4 min 58 sec
3rd, Frank Durbin
Stanley Steamer 20 Runabout
5 flagged, flagged
J.A. Crowell
Stanley Steamer 15
Did not transfer from the heats
Boston Globe, 31 August 1905, page 14.
“The Bay State A.A. yesterday gave out its entries for the races to be held at Readville on Labor Day.”
“Five miles, national championship:
Frank Durbin, Stanley
Barney Oldfield, Peerless
Manuel Cedriano, Fiat
J.A. Crowell, Stanley
George Otis Draper, Stanley
W.L. Hilliard, Napier
Ralph Coburn, Maxwell”
Boston Globe, 3 September 1905, page 18.
“W.S. Hilliard, the Boston driver who sent the Napier racing up Mt. Washington in record time is also entered.”
“Of the five-mile events the one for the national championship should be very good. The race is insisted upon at all the meets by the A.A.A. so that when the season ends the cars may graded according to the points they have won. There are seven entries, all with good cars, and there will be some good maneuvering to win out.”
New York Times, 3 September 1905, page 10.
New York Times, 3 September 1905, page 11.
New York Times, 10 September 1905, page 10.
“National Championship, Five Miles – First Heat – Won by Barney Oldfield, 60 horse power; E. Cedrino second. Time – 4:55 1-5.
Second Heat – Won by Frank Durbin, 20 horse power; J.A. Crowell second. Time – 5:45 1-5.
Final Heat – Won by Oldfield, Cedrino second, Durbin third. Time – 4:52.”
Washington Post, 10 September 1905, page 4.
“The best events of the day were the races for the national championship, for which points were given the winners for the final summary at the close of the year, and the contest for the silver trophy. Oldfield won the first without difficulty, taking his heat and the finals without being headed. In the final heat he led Cedriano by a quarter of a mile at the finish.”
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Narragansett Park
Granston, Rhode Island
23 September 1905
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Results
1st, Barney Oldfield
Peerless Motor Car Company, Peerless Green Dragon
5 laps, 4 min 43 sec
2nd, Emanuel Cedrino
Fiat 24
5 laps, flagged
Boston Globe, 24 September 1905, page 16.
“The national championship race between Oldfield and Cedriano was easily the feature. Oldfield had the worst of the start, but overcame the Italian’s lead in the first mile, and won by nearly three-eighths of a mile.”
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Hudson River Driving Park
Dutchess County Fair Grounds
Poughkeepsie, New York
29 September 1905
5 laps of 1.0-mile track for 5.0 miles
Results
1st, Barney Oldfield
Peerless Motor Car Company, Peerless Green Dragon
5 laps, 5 min 50.6 sec
2nd, Dan Wurgis
Reo 32 Bird
Flagged
3rd, Frank Ridgeway
Peerless 60
Flagged
New York Times, 30 September 1905, page 10.
“The closing day of the Dutchess County Fair brought together 20,000 people at the Hudson River Driving Park, who were intensely interested in the Grand Circuit automobile races, which were run off over a perfect track and under auspicious weather conditions.”
Boston Globe, 30 September 1905, page 3.
“Five-mile national championship, open to all: first prize $150, second prize $60 – Won by Barney Oldfield (50-h.p. Peerless; Dan Wurgis (32-h.p. Reo), second; Frank Ridgeway (35-h.p. Peerless), third. Time, 5m. 50, 3-5s.”
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Standings:
22 points, Barney Oldfield
16 points, Louis Chevrolet
7 points, Webb Jay
4 points, Dan Wurgis & Charles Burman & Emanuel Cedrino
2 points, Herbert Lytle & Montague Roberts
1 point, Guy Vaughn & Frank Durbin & Frank Ridgeway
#33
Posted 26 December 2005 - 16:27
New York Times, 21 May 1905, page 11.
“Motor Car Championship
Will Be Based on Points Won in National Circuit Race Meets
An important decision regarding the motor car championship for 1905 has just been determined by the Racing Committee of the American Automobile Association. The championship will be decided on the point system, and the race upon which the points will be based will be the free-for-all contest. It is stipulated that this event must be not less than five miles nor more then ten miles in length. The winning car will receive four points, the second two points, and the third one point.
These points for the championship will be awarded in the National circuit meet, as sanctioned by the American Automobile Association. Not all the meets will necessarily be in the National circuit, as several of the local track contests are not in the circuit. The circuit automobile racing dates, as at present, are:
June 10 – Morris Park, New York City; June 16-17 – Hartford, Conn.; June 21 – Baltimore, Md.; June 24 – Philadelphia, Penn.; June 28-29 – Pittsburgh; July 3-4 – A.A. Meet, Morris Park; July 22 – Empire City track; Aug. 1-2 – Grand Rapids, Mich.; Aug. 11-12 – Cleveland; Aug. 18-19 – Buffalo; Aug. 26 – To be granted; Sept. 4 – Boston; Sept. 9 – Providence; Sept. 23 – Morris Park; Sept. 29 – Poughkeepsie; Sept. 30 – Empire City track.”
#34
Posted 26 December 2005 - 22:36

#35
Posted 27 December 2005 - 11:34
Like Hans, I value the information you have uncovered. Thanks.
John
#36
Posted 27 December 2005 - 12:10
But, that is another story....
#37
Posted 27 December 2005 - 14:17
#38
Posted 14 January 2006 - 14:20
#39
Posted 14 January 2006 - 14:56
Originally posted by fines
Well done, Don, but there were definitely more than six championship races in 1946...
Michael, Don't tell me, prove it. Don
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#40
Posted 14 January 2006 - 18:02
I was preparing a post for my old thread for when I am going online again, but it appears this will take a bit more time. I actually enjoy life w/o the net!

#41
Posted 14 January 2006 - 18:33
They may have all counted towards some championship -- Eastern, Midwest, whatever -- but it seems that only six may have counted towards the National Championship. Should I simply disregard the 1946 AAA annual as being wrong?
Also, Speed Age May 1947, states on page 22, "To date eleven national championship races, including the 500-mile Indianapolis Speedway classisc, have been scheduled. This is nearly twice the number run during 1946."
Also, on page 27 of the same issue of Speed Age the following can be found:
AAA Drivers Took Home Over $300,000
The 3600 miles of dirt track and championship events under the AAA sanction paid off at the rate of $84.50 a mile for a total of $304,432 last year, according to statistics released by Col. Arthur W. Herrington, chairman of the contest board.
There were 177 racing cars, 193 drivers and 254 mechanics registered by the board last year, while 469 temporary permits were issued. Six championship events and 71 dirt track races were held, with 21 others rained out.
The ball is back in your court, Michael.
#42
Posted 25 January 2006 - 20:04
Naturally, this and so other information I have found now means that I do a re-write of my 1905 article....
#43
Posted 12 September 2006 - 13:07
#44
Posted 15 September 2006 - 11:10
#45
Posted 09 October 2006 - 16:55
#46
Posted 15 October 2006 - 17:46
#47
Posted 16 October 2006 - 19:17
#48
Posted 14 February 2007 - 21:54
1905 CITY OF HAVANA CUP RACE
The contest was run on Sunday February 12th 1905 over a distance of 160 kilometers - just two thirds of a mile short of 100 miles. It was billed as an international event, the first major motor race to be held in Cuba. The start was at the town of Arroyo Arenas, which is 13 miles southwest of the Cuban capital of Havana. From there the course ran to San Cristobal, where the cars were halted, before commencing their return run to Arroyo Arenas. The eastward run to San Cristobal was 79 ¼ kilometers, and the return 80 ¾ kilometers, which suggests that, at least in part, the two legs traversed different roads.
The local arrangements by the organizing club, the International Automobile Association of Cuba, were said to be excellent. The grandstands on both sides of the road near the start line seated a crowd of 2,500 persons, and thousands of others lined the road at many other points along the route. President Palma, members of the Cabinet, their families and various other Government officials occupied seats in the central boxes. The whole course was thoroughly patrolled by mounted infantry, police, and bicycle club members. Even Mother Nature obliged as the weather was fairly hot, with a gentle westerly breeze.
Six cars were expected to start, but a practice accident on the Friday before the race meant that E. R. Thomas’s ninety horsepower German car (most likely a Mercedes) had to be withdrawn. Thomas was among the spectators on race day having almost recovered from the injuries he sustained in the crash, but his ‘chauffeur’ E. D. Hawley was still in hospital, albeit on the mend.
The five remaining competitors started at ten-minute intervals in the following order:-
Joe Tracy Renault 30/40/60hp owner Major C.J.S.Miller
H.W.Fletcher de Dietrich 80hp owner O.F.Thomas
Joseph Birk Mercedes 40/90hp owner Louis Marx
Ernesto Carricaburu Mercedes 60/90hp owner E.K.Connelly
H.A.Robinson de Dietrich 35/40hp owner R.G. Mendoza
Only two of them were out-and-out racing cars, Fletcher’s mighty 80hp de Dietrich and Tracy’s little Paris-Madrid Renault, which was the lightest car in the race. Major Miller had bought the Renault from W. Gould Brokaw and hired Tracy as one of the most professional racers in America. The de Dietrich was the car which Gabriel had driven in the recent Vanderbilt Cup race on Long Island.
Incidentally, the various sources quote different horsepower ratings, all of which are included in the table above.
The cars started down a slight incline past the grandstands, which were situated a short distance beyond the starting line. Unfortunately the start was just out of the spectators’ line of vision. The ‘autoists’, as the drivers were referred to in the American press, then crossed a bridge and sped up a long hill, being in sight of the grandstands for quite a while after the start.
The starting procedure took about 45 minutes and one could imagine that once the five cars had disappeared on their way to San Cristobal, the crowds in the grandstands would have become restless. After all, it was a warm day and the cars were not due to return for several hours. Apparently this was not the case, as announcements of the times and progress of each car were telephoned promptly from all the villages along the route. This information was then announced from the judges’ stand to the spectators in the grandstands. These announcements were made in both Spanish and English as there was a large contingent of Americans in attendance.
Apart from that, there was much betting especially on the cars driven by Fletcher and Tracy, although before the start the three other cars, all owned by residents of Havana, had had their backers. In the days leading up to the race the Mercedes (?) of E.R.Thomas had been the popular favourite, but how the bookies handled its enforced withdrawal was not explained.
One tends to think of protests in motor racing as a fairly recent development. Not so. The de Dietrich driven by H.W. Fletcher had been over-filled with oil and as a result its engine refused to fire on the start line. Taking advantage of the slight downward slope, the car was pushed more than the entire length of the grandstand before it finally fired up. Major Miller, the owner of Tracy’s car, filed an official protest, which proved to be redundant as the de Dietrich was never in contention during the race.
On the outward leg and not long after the start, Fletcher’s de Dietrich suffered a puncture necessitating a lengthy wheel change. Apart from that, the first half of the race must have been fairly uneventful as the five cars finished at the San Cristobal checkpoint in the same order as they had started. Tracy, the fastest of the five, covered the distance in 51 minutes 22.6 seconds. Robinson’s de Dietrich was the slowest in 1 hour 17 minutes 1.8 seconds. Ernesto Carricaburu’s time in the Mercedes must have been very little more than Tracy’s.
The cars left San Cristobal in the same order as before. On the way back Fletcher had to make a number of stops for water and various repairs, including one of 36 minutes to solder a split in the de Dietrich’s fuel tank.(Last info courtesy Doug Nye.) The car finally completed the race a long way behind the other competitors, so much so that it failed to finish within the time limit. Another casualty of the return leg was the Renault of Joe Tracy. Towards the end of the race he was passing over a railway crossing when his battery shook loose and ended up into a nearby stream. They pulled it out and re-attached it to the car. At the same time the mechanic’s seat had also come loose. Then, within sight of the finish line, a fuel line broke. It was tied in place with a rag and they managed to finish the race.
Despite these mishaps, Tracy was the first to cross the finish line, his time for the second leg being 1 hour 1 minute and 3.4 seconds. At first it was believed that he had won, but Carricaburu, who started half an hour after Tracy, was gaining fast, his time in each village being announced to the excited spectators in the grandstands. All eyes were focussed on the top of the hill across the valley. When he sped down the long hill and up the narrow lane between the grandstands he was greeted with a roaring ovation. The band played the Cuban national anthem, and the ovation was repeated when the result was officially announced.. Carricaburu had covered the whole course in a little over a minute and a half less than Tracy.
Results:
1. Ernesto Carricaburu Mercedes 1.50’53.6” 53.7 mph
2. Joe Tracy Renault 1.52’06”
3. H.A.Robinson de Dietrich 2.30’16”
4. Joseph Birk Mercedes 2.34’25”
H.W.Fletcher de Dietrich outside time limit
Carricaburu’s average of 53.7 mph was slightly faster than the winning speed in the previous year’s Gordon Bennett and 6 mph faster than that year’s Vanderbilt Cup race. Admittedly both of these races were considerably longer, but against that their entry was much larger and consisted of purpose-built racing cars. Carricaburu’s victory was all the more impressive in that it was his very first motor race!
On the following Tuesday sprint races were held on a stretch of road between Guanajay and Artemis, thirty miles from Havana.
The overall race meeting was considered a great sporting success, but was conducted at some financial loss. Nonetheless, the International Automobile Club of Cuba decided to prepare for a larger meeting in 1906.
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#49
Posted 15 February 2007 - 02:52
#50
Posted 15 February 2007 - 09:16
As Hans says top-notch stuff. What would be the chance of an article like this appearing in Motor Sport?
John