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[dutra]

Does anyone have a picture of David Coulthard using Michael Schumacher's helmet in that fantastic Monaco GP of 1996?
I'm looking for this image but I can't find it anywere.

[MONTOYASPEED]

I'll send it to you after DART's first Friday Practice.

[Vagabond]

Originally posted by dutra
Does anyone have a picture of David Coulthard using Michael Schumacher in that fantastic Monaco GP of 1996?
I'm looking for this image but I can't find it anywere.

yes picture would be great.

[100cc]

I have a picture of David waving to the crowd after the race, with the Michael helmet on. But its in a magazine somewhere in the basement of our apartment building in Finland I think. I go to Finland at the end of next month, I think someone else may find a pic before that=).

[bira]

[Ricardo F1]

Sweet picture - thanks Bira!

Actually I do hope this isn't a whole ruse to bring up a joke about fitting a square head into a round hole.

[Newtown]

I hope I don't get flamed by this, but I love the way that car looks and would love to see the cars go back to being wide like that. Today's cars look too much like a needle.

Just my 0.02$'s

[Calvin Tang]

The front wing was really simple at that time.

[Jhope]

Originally posted by Calvin Tang
The front wing was really simple at that time.

That's exactly what I was thinking now.

[Liam]

It was simple then, but front wings from 92/93 were very very complicated things, with 4 long long venturi's on each side running between the wheel struts, doing the job of a barge board on current cars.

I could live without the silly wing on the engine cover, notice it has the same Marlboro add as it's bigger brother at the back

I'd like to see the cars returned to a wider track too. It's something you don't notice much, then you see a picture from the early 90's and the first thing you notice is how wide it is. Of course, a wider car means more wing and more downforce which everyone seems to think is bad.

[Clatter]

Originally posted by Liam
. Of course, a wider car means more wing and more downforce which everyone seems to think is bad.

It also means more drag, so there may not be that huge a change in speed.

[benn5325]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the story behind the picture???

[KinetiK]

Originally posted by benn5325
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the story behind the picture???

iirc, it was something to the effect that David's helmet or helmets were soaked with water and Michael either agreed to loan him one or he offered a helmet to DC.

[masterhit]

DC found that the visor of his helmet fogged up in the appalling weather conditions and asked MS if he had a spare to lend him for the race,

[Dolph]

As I remember, David payd cash for that helmet (he and his manager managed to scrape smth up at the last moment).

[dutra]

Thank you, Bira!


In that GP, only after the warmup it rained, and then they had 15 minutes 1 hour before the race to run in the wet. As the weekend only had dry conditios until that moment, only in the last minute Coulthard found the problem that masterhit described. I think that this kind of thing never happened before or after that race. At least I never heard about anything like that in other race.

[The Rock]

Originally posted by Newtown
I hope I don't get flamed by this, but I love the way that car looks and would love to see the cars go back to being wide like that. Today's cars look too much like a needle.

Your not the only one that prefers the older wider cars.I hate the way the modern groove tired, narrow track cars look.Bring back the old cars with slicks!.

[dworsham]

are those Goodyear Eagle tires?

[Jhope]

yeah.

[AD]

Originally posted by Newtown
I hope I don't get flamed by this, but I love the way that car looks and would love to see the cars go back to being wide like that. Today's cars look too much like a needle.

Just my 0.02$'s

That's one of the more ugly McLarens IMO. However the 1993 McLaren, was a really beautiful car

[RedFever]

......every McLaren's fan secret dream.........


Bira is becoming everyday more like an F1 Encarta, just ask and voila!!!!

[RedFever]

by the way, speaking of helmets......I dunno if anyone noticed.........I saw the picture in Il Corriere della Sera last Monday. It showed Schumi and DC immediately after the end of the race, with Schumi a few inches from DC, congratulating the Scot while holding one hand on his shoulder. It was perfect because their were shot exactly from the side, so you could see their profiles. Now, Schumi's head is notoriously quite big......but if you have seen the picture, you can notice how much bigger DC's helmet actually is!!!!! I realized instantly that his nickname was well deserved!!!!

[HardRock]

Originally posted by Ricardo F1
Actually I do hope this isn't a whole ruse to bring up a joke about fitting a square head into a round hole.

[Witt]

I suppose it wasn't as much an act of sportsmanship by schumi as 'encouragement' from sponsor marlboro to let DC use Schumi's helmet that day. If Irvine's or Hakkinen's helmets fit better than Schumi's, then methinks it could just as easily have been one of their helmets on DC that day.

[bira]

Originally posted by Witt
I suppose it wasn't as much an act of sportsmanship by schumi as 'encouragement' from sponsor marlboro to let DC use Schumi's helmet that day. If Irvine's or Hakkinen's helmets fit better than Schumi's, then methinks it could just as easily have been one of their helmets on DC that day.

Sadly I can't find it, but in the post-race press conference Coulthard was asked about why he's wearing Schumacher's helmet. He replied that he had a problem with his own helmet, and since he and Michael used the same type of helmet and since the two were neighbours (Schumacher lived in Monaco back then), he simply popped to Michael's apartment and took one on a loan.

Don't make it sound like a PR thing. Astonishingly enough, DC and MS were actually friends back then had a lot to do with the fact that they both disliked Hill

[bira]

OK, found this part which was on the terrestrial TV coverage:

Q: We saw you driving with a Michael Schumacher replica helmet can you explain that?

DC: Yeah, I thought that might cause some confusion, but I had a terrible problem in the warm up with my helmet. The visor was completely steamed up and I couldn't see after one lap and I didn't feel confident I could fix the problem, so I asked if I could borrow one of Michael's helmets and he had no problem to lend me one and we just covered his personal sponsors over and off I went.

Additionally, in the questions off the floor later he was asked again why he asked Michael and he explained that they both use the same helmet, and because he lives in the same complex as Michael it was easy popping over to his apartment and grabbing one.

[Ricardo F1]

Originally posted by bira
Don't make it sound like a PR thing. Astonishingly enough, DC and MS were actually friends back then SIZE]

As far as I'm aware DC and MS are still friends today. The Spa 98 spat was over pretty quick.

[bira]

Ricardo, they are on amicable terms now. They are most certainly not friends.

There is a difference.

[Schuting Star]

Originally posted by bira
Ricardo, they are on amicable terms now. They are most certainly not friends.

There is a difference.

Does that have anything to do with DC's friendship with Villeneuve?

[The Rock]

Is DC good friends with jacques?? i didn't know that.Anyway doesn't DC get on well with Irvine,well he just to during the 1999 season as they would often hang around together in the paddock if i recall.

[Schuting Star]

Originally posted by The Rock
Is DC good friends with jacques??

According to Martin Brundle, yes.

[AD]

I think that DC, JV, and Irvine are pretty good buddies

[Rene]

Toss in Mika Salo into that mix.....DC,JV and Salo bring their own motorhomes to the European GP's and stay the whole weekend in them (i.e. sleep at the race track), I know these three try to make sure they park them side by side by side....last year it wasn't too bad as it was just JV and DC...but now with Salo, they are finding it tough (apperhently) to get good parking for themselves...in Spain they had to park on the other side of the paddock fence, so the organizers assigned them their own guards....

[dutra]

Originally posted by RedFever

Bira is becoming everyday more like an F1 Encarta, just ask and voila!!!!

Well, let's see.
Bira, do you have a picture of Michael Schumacher testing with a Ligier in the pre-season of 1995?
It's another one that I am looking for.

[The Rock]

Excuse my ignorance,but what was Schumacher doing testing a Ligier?was it down to the fact that Flavio had bought a stake in Ligier team at the time?

[dutra]

Originally posted by The Rock
Excuse my ignorance,but what was Schumacher doing testing a Ligier?was it down to the fact that Flavio had bought a stake in Ligier team at the time?

Schumacher tested 94's Ligier to get used with the Renault engine, used by Benetton in 1995.

[Dudley]

He tested a Sauber on Ferrari's behalf a bit later too.

[Viktor]

Not what dutra asked for but here is a pic of Schumacher testing for Sauber in 1997


/Viktor

[The Rock]

Didnt Schumacher test the 95 Ferrari, the one with the low nose before he moved to Ferrari in 96?He was surprised how they didnt win the championship with that car.Any pictures of that test??

[Jhope]

Originally posted by AD
I think that DC, JV, and Irvine are pretty good buddies

Get rid of Irvine and add Salo to the salad.

[dutra]

Originally posted by The Rock
Didnt Schumacher test the 95 Ferrari, the one with the low nose before he moved to Ferrari in 96?He was surprised how they didnt win the championship with that car.Any pictures of that test??

A brazilian television did last year an special report about Schumacher in Ferrari and showed Michael testing the 95 Ferrari, but I never saw a picture of that.

[Ricardo F1]

Originally posted by bira
Ricardo, they are on amicable terms now. They are most certainly not friends.

There is a difference.

Well I don't think Schumacher allows any 'friends' in the literal sense within the F1 circles (probably why Jos isn't driving any more!) - sorta links to the whole Johnny Herbert / Schumacher fallout thread from a while back. But from what DC told me in Tokyo they actually get on pretty well, primarily being the two senior members of the drivers safety thang.

[silver]

I remember DC wearing Schumis helmet in Monaco 1996. I have always thought that DC has always used Arai helmets and Schumi Bells (before switching to Schubert) so in that case David would have used competitors helmet. And if he had a contract with Arai i would have thought that he should have paid some compentation for that. Mika was using Shoei helmet so i guess DC couldnt use his helmet...

[AtlanticRacer]

i was watching the '96 review and i always wondered why David Coulthard used Schumachers helmet at Monaco in 1996?

[AndreasF1]

If I recall correctly, Colthard asked Schumacher if he could borrow his helmet because he wanted to try out the new helmet design. Schumacher and Coulthard got on much better in 1996 so Michael had no objections to borrowing his helmet to Coulthard.

[Jonathan]

IIRC Coulthard's helmut was fogging up ?

[wawawa]

More info in this thread.

[Alan Baker]

How much padding did DC need to make the helmet fit?!!!

[holiday]

Originally posted by AtlanticRacer
i was watching the '96 review and i always wondered why David Coulthard used Schumachers helmet at Monaco in 1996?

Its an age old ritual in tribalistic cultures. When you touch another ones clothing etc., his power will pass over to you.

[fines]

Originally posted by Alan Baker
How much padding did DC need to make the helmet fit?!!!

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