
How do Americans get into F1?
#1
Posted 20 May 2000 - 02:58
Clearly you guys here are a minority within the car racing US audience. Other series like CART, NASCAR, IRL, etc are well advertised, race locally, have a lot of local heros (plus CART and IRL get foreign talent as well), are broadcast at convenient times, etc.
F1 is clearly in the backburner, gets no publicity at all, it is hard to find on a TV screen, there is no info on TV about races, drivers, teams, etc.
Yet, you guys are as passionate about F1 as Europeans and South Americans and Australians. Considering all of the above, how did you find out about F1 and why/how did you get into it?
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#2
Posted 20 May 2000 - 03:12
#3
Posted 20 May 2000 - 03:19
Actually, I jes' like racin' and, while I love my country, never subscribed to the belief that something was worthwhile only if comes from the USA. If I believed otherwise Elizabeth Hurley would/could do nothing for me.
#4
Posted 20 May 2000 - 03:20
I have always been one to study up on stuff that interested me. So, one day a family member gave me a really cool looking toy car(F1) when I was around 4-5. Naturally I HAD to know everything about this new car. What it was called, where it raced, where I could see it race. I aggravated the **** out of everybody about this until they plopped me down in front of the TV for my first F1 race. And ever since they have regretted it, stating that they wish that I had never been exposed to F1(being a fanatic I tend to get on people's nerves

Funny though....since I'm from the Southeast U.S. and my family has been racing stockcars since before I was born. I even took up racing for a while but even though I was successful I just couldn't get any satisfaction from racing ovals. And it wasn't nearly as easy to get into karting(road tracks) around here as ovals. In the end I decided that I found being a fanatical F1 fan was more exciting than going around in circles "racing" the stockcar circuit.
There ya have it.

#5
Posted 20 May 2000 - 03:21
#6
Posted 20 May 2000 - 03:23
Originally posted by RedFever:
I have been always curious about this.
Clearly you guys here are a minority within the car racing US audience. Other series like CART, NASCAR, IRL, etc are well advertised, race locally, have a lot of local heros (plus CART and IRL get foreign talent as well), are broadcast at convenient times, etc.
F1 is clearly in the backburner, gets no publicity at all, it is hard to find on a TV screen, there is no info on TV about races, drivers, teams, etc.
Yet, you guys are as passionate about F1 as Europeans and South Americans and Australians. Considering all of the above, how did you find out about F1 and why/how did you get into it?
What foreign talent does the IRL have on a regular basis? NONE!
ABC used to broadcat the Monaco GP every year up untill the early 1990's. Bernie eventually stopped that. Americans are saturated with sports. Racing: we have nascar, CART, NHRA, and LINRS. We also have NHL, NFL, NBA, MLS, MLB, etc.......no time to watch foreign drivers in foreign cars on foreign tracks. And the USGP will be on fox, but locally, not nationally. we'll see if that changes. I personally think it will do will in Indy, but not the rest of the country. It will always sell out in Indy, but the rest of the country mor than likely will not be watching.
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#7
Posted 20 May 2000 - 03:35
I think having a U.S. Grand Prix will definately help but overall I think most Americans will prefer the closer competition of NASCAR, CART and the IRL in the end. This could change if a truly American team entered F1 or if a star American driver entered the series. However, this probably won't happen because of great opportunities on the homefront and due to the political nature of FIA.
One thing that I have picked up on is that it seems that F1 teams do not generally accept driver input and cater to their drivers tastes in setups as readily as American CART, IRL and NASCAR teams do.
#8
Posted 20 May 2000 - 03:36
I wouldn't get to lust after my favorites, Charlize Theron and Catherine Zeta Jones



Oh dear God!!

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Posted 20 May 2000 - 03:39


#10
Posted 20 May 2000 - 03:45
#11
Posted 20 May 2000 - 03:48
Personally, I like the fact that F1 is not popular here in the US. My personality is such that if something gets such mass appeal, it turns me off (i.e. that movie, Titanic). It takes a bit more effort to follow, but that makes it more interesting.
#12
Posted 20 May 2000 - 04:12
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#13
Posted 20 May 2000 - 04:55
factors for my love of F1:
1a) half-Finnish
1b) growing up close to Montreal (CBC coverage, Gilles, et al.)
2) ABC coverage of Monaco (Lauda/Hunt era)
3) coverage of other F1 races
#14
Posted 20 May 2000 - 05:10
It's just one of those things that you stumble across one day, it slowly pulls you in, you become fanatical and then one day when your 65 you look back and say "Why the **** did I waste so much time with that ****?"
Lucky for me, I still have 40 years of disillusion left and I'm loving every minute!
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Posted 20 May 2000 - 05:36
#16
Posted 20 May 2000 - 07:29
#17
Posted 20 May 2000 - 07:38
There are some who would say that there is no talent, US or other, in IRL, but I think that's cruel.
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Posted 20 May 2000 - 08:32
#19
Posted 20 May 2000 - 10:18
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#20
Posted 20 May 2000 - 12:03
I got into F1 because I got into CART some in 1994. When it came time to buy the Indy Racing computer game, my computer was too slow, so I decided to get World Circuit instead. Immediately after racing the first night I looked up when the next race was and it was late summer of 1994 when I really started to follow F1. Although my generally following of auto racing allowed me to know some about F1, never got up early to watch it, but that changed immediately. F1 is part of my life now, just like NASCAR has been since 1985. My interest in CART is way above the average American, but it's actually behind the IRL right now because of my intense interest in the career of Sarah Fisher. My NASCAR interest with Adam Petty's death....although, I've come to grips with it more after having a good sob, which let it all out pretty much, and started thinking, what should Petty Enterprises do from here. And I concluded that somebody like Rick Wilson, Greg Sacks, Ken Bouchard, etc, should be hired to finish the NBS season for the 45 car and that Steve Grissom should race the 45 car next season in Winston Cup as it was originally going to. And with Steve subbing for Kyle at Charlotte, this could become a reality. Then with the trucks, you could stick with whoever you used to finish out the 45 car's NBS season, Wilson, Sacks, Bouchard...Wilson has former PE ties, Sacks is an experienced driver, Bouchard has raced a bit of everything stock car recently. Although, seeing Canadian Randy McDonald get a top flight ride in a Petty truck would be cool I think. I took a liking to Randy before I found out he was Canadian, but, hey, I root for underdogs and as a Canadian in a NASCAR series. Not as bad as when Tony Spano kept trying to make Cup races in 87 and such. He's from Australia if you aren't familiar with him. His nickname was Boomerang. I would imagine the NBS effort would be discontinued.
Sorry to go into the NASCAR rant, just kind of followed into that though. I love all forms of racing. I went out to the local track, Hawkeye Downs, to see the Formula Indy cars race. Talked to them after the race and they only cost $10,000 for a really competitive car. They use like 600 cc and 700 cc snowmobile engines with a few modifications of course. They generate 170 hp, have to weight 700 pounds with the driver in them, and at the 1/2 here in CR they reached top speeds of 135 mph. They were almost as fast as the sprints that were here last week!!! A neat series, and I tell you...it's just tempting to try and go racing like that. If I had the money I probably would do it. For now, it's hockey and an education in sports journalism, because I have talents at hockey on and off the ice. The Formula Indy cars run a lot of short tracks, but also some road courses. Just really neat to me I guess. I love automobile racing.
Speaking of the IRL, I wouldn't say Airton Dare is a talentless foreigner in the IRL. Brack wasn't either. There's some talent in the IRL. If you do your research on the drivers, a lot of them have raced Formula Atlantic, etc, or were top sprint car drivers and such, which takes a lot of car control. Most of them aren't just guys off the street. Dr. Jack Miller is really the only one even close to that, except Hideshi Matsuda but Matsuda, a former racing journalist only, proved himself making Indy when all the CART teams were there in full force along with the teams like Team Menard that would try to make Indy every year. There are some professional organizations in the IRL, like Kelley Racing for instance, among others, with some good drivers. Take Kelley's two drivers, Scott Sharp and Mark Dismore. They have good resumes.
#21
Posted 20 May 2000 - 14:21
While Rob was not all that up on all the technical details, he was fairly close to many of the drivers and some of the teams.
After a year or two of reading his articles, I felt like I actually knew the F1 "family" fairly well.
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Posted 20 May 2000 - 14:40
#23
Posted 20 May 2000 - 15:33
exposure to F1. Jackie Stewart provided color commentary. I was a
wee lad, I remember the more excited JYS got the thicker his Scottish accent would become. Needless to say he could get pretty incomprehensable!
The funny thing back then there was a lot more cross-pollination going on. F1 guys at Indy, Indy guys in F1, F1 guys in Can-Am, Mario in everything. "Wide World"covered all of these racing disciplines, so there were a lot of different ways to led to F1.
#24
Posted 20 May 2000 - 17:00
FFWD to 1961, Jack Brabham in the Cooper at Indy; six years old, and hooked.
Then Dad started feeding me Road & Track, with Henry N. Manney.
Jim Clark and Dan Gurney became my heroes.
I"m still here.
#25
Posted 20 May 2000 - 18:25

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