105 replies to this topic

[Nikolas Garth]

I never would have thought at the start of the year that I would be seriously putting up such a pole, but it has been a funny sort of year.

I now believe that there is a distinct possibility that Montoya will not win a race this year(Which will no doubt stir up some quite differing emotions between MONTOYASPEED and The Red Baron ).

At the start of the year I thought he would finish 2nd to MS, and prolly get at least 4 wins, but with Ferrari's Uber car, McLaren now appearing to get their act together and JPM still struggling to find the Senna/MS consistency we thought he might be capable of in his 2nd year, I think Montoya may prove The Red Baron right.

[Ricardo F1]

Yes - I think so, but it depends on whether the Ferrari holds up this ridiculously amazing bullet proof / crash proof / gravel trap proof supercar abilities.

[MONTOYASPEED]

[HardRock]

May be one. Ferrari is too superior at the moment.

[Vegasdevil]

He'll win all the pole postion and two races " IN THE INDY/CART SERIES" and will finish off the year with 27 points

[HP]

Since last year I'm pretty convinced, that JPM won't win a race this year. Can't explain it fully, but I was certain last year that he'd win in Monza, after Ralfs win in San Marino and he did. Not that I mind him winning races, this is just a gut feeling. JPM's luck is not in F1.

[Merlin]

Atleast Monza or Hockenheim...

Or will the F2002 beat the powerful BMW's also on the ultra-fast circuits...

[Newtown]

Crapenheim is no longer ultra high speed. It has been decimated and castrated, remember?

[HP]

Originally posted by Merlin
Atleast Monza or Hockenheim...

Or will the F2002 beat the powerful BMW's also on the ultra-fast circuits...

The Williams have only an advantage in qualifiying at the moment. In the race they are not a match at the moment. Also, Montoya is an excellent qualifier, but the race is longer than one lap.

[maclaren]

Originally posted by MONTOYASPEED

No finishes, no wins

JPM is a bit like Trulli. Both are good qualifiers, both can overtake, both are blocking very hard, both are slower racers than teammates

[Mammoth]

Voted Yes... but it might just be wishful thinking...

Ferrari superb reliability + 1 - 2 sec a lap faster car is almost impossible to beat... his only hope could be getting the pole in hungary... and pray for everything to go well that day.....

But perhaps the poles are just jinxing him ;)

[Mammoth]

Originally posted by maclaren

both are slower racers than teammates

Please elaborate....

[Sammyed]

I said I was done with F1, took my pills here I am....I just can´t leave it

Sadly but trully, JPM won´t win a race this season...I don´t see how having this BMW-Williams-Michelin package. Either Ralf and JPM before the season starts, they said that the whole thing was so...let´s call it 'conservative', they were right.

[MuMu]

Can't see anyone except Ferrari win a race this year.

[Carsten]

Yes, he will fluke one somewhere.

I am not a JPM fan, but I concede he wil pull it together one whole weekend this year. Overall, although there's not much of a gap now, I think Ralf will out-score him by the end of the year.

So I voted 'YES'.

[Schuting Star]

I voted yes, more out of sympathy than belief. Surely Ferrari's reliability can't continue to hold up? Michael must be due a DNF but that means that Montoya and Williams will need to be in a position to capitalise on the situation and in recent races that hasn't looked likely.

[umapathypon]

Originally posted by MuMu
Can't see anyone except Ferrari win a race this year.

I am not so sure. If McLaren can be strong at Monaco,they will be pretty good at Hungary too. Also with the tyre situation now,much depends on the weather conditions.

[SennasCat]

I'd say one, maybe two at best (and maybe one more for Ralf)

Ferrari's roll with mechanical luck/reliability must end soon. I know that they are where they deserve to be given their designing/driving, but they have also had the best of luck this year.

Remember, people thought that Mclaren would win all the races in 1988 - and almost did. But given the turn of a friendly card, Williams are best placed to pick up the pieces if they can have the reliability right and Ferrari's luck turns

[Vegasdevil]

He's young,wild and has got an attitude, When he first got to F1 he have this Idea that he was the golden boy for Williams. Yes ,He got talent, but as time when time on and the rest of the driver got use to the new kid on the block(Schumacher played head games with him in Monaco & Montreal), and his car wasn't performing as good as it was,he started getting frustrated like he needs to prove something, and that is costing him his wins...(that or simply there's isn't any oval tracks in Forumla1)

[f1gpshop]

I reckon JPM will win this year's US GP ;) aside from other GP's

[Tomecek]

I think you're mixing two different things in case JPM won't win some Grand Prix: JPM won't win GP this season because he's inconsistent in races (as Coulthard says), or JPM won't win GP because of lack williams's pace against Ferrari?
Also I guess maclaren doens't know what he's is saying if he maintains that JPM is slower racer than Ralf, I think it is very hard (impossible) to select, who is quicker racer...
IMO Juan will calm down after his mistake in European Grand Prix and maybe he will win some race this season yet ;)

[MuMu]

Originally posted by umapathypon
I am not so sure. If McLaren can be strong at Monaco,they will be pretty good at Hungary too. Also with the tyre situation now,much depends on the weather conditions.

Maybe. Hungary, like Monaco, is all about grid position. If MS continues his bad qualifying performances there, he may see himself outqualified by a McLaren !

[Thunder]

Originally posted by MuMu


Maybe. Hungary, like Monaco, is all about grid position. If MS continues his bad qualifying performances there, he may see himself outqualified by a McLaren !

Who knows if Montoya sacrify Pole pos. to race performance like MS do , he can have a shot maybe.

[MuMu]

Originally posted by Thunder



Who knows if Montoya sacrify Pole pos. to race performance like MS do , he can have a shot maybe.

So he should go slower than he actually can in qualifying?

His best bet is to start from as high up as possible, He's not gonna catch a car that's 1.5s per lap faster than him, so try to start ahead of them. Considering the gap to Ferrari, his qualfying performances have been outstanding. Pity the BMW's sre so unreliable in the races...

[Inness]

Originally posted by Thunder



Who knows if Montoya sacrify Pole pos. to race performance like MS do , he can have a shot maybe.

MS is not sacrificing any pole position for race performance. Every driver on the grid strives to get pole. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool. Montoya has one particularly poor race and now there are doubts about his abilities. Anyone on this board should ask themselves if they thought Montoya would get three consecutive poles at any point during the 2002 season. Last year at this time all the bashers were saying he is out his depth ,how Button and Raikonnen were the bomb, now they have to imply other drivers are conceding pole to him for some trade off in race performance. To the morons out there who say Montoya doesn't see the big picture. explain why he is still in a position to finish second in the WDC and he is not in the best car. Are you attributing this to luck?

[Thunder]

Originally posted by Inness


MS is not sacrificing any pole position for race performance. Every driver on the grid strives to get pole. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool. Montoya has one particularly poor race and now there are doubts about his abilities. Anyone on this board should ask themselves if they thought Montoya would get three consecutive poles at any point during the 2002 season. Last year at this time all the bashers were saying he is out his depth ,how Button and Raikonnen were the bomb, now they have to imply other drivers are conceding pole to him for some trade off in race performance. To the morons out there who say Montoya doesn't see the big picture. explain why he is still in a position to finish second in the WDC and he is not in the best car. Are you attributing this to luck?

MS choose best tire for race not qualifying. Ask Ron dennis , if you dont beleive me.

Second i just hate Montoyas fans not him. He is currently the only hope of f1. He is much more matured and better than last year now but last year. The only thing minus for him is the way he accuse his team publicly.

[Thunder]

Originally posted by MuMu


So he should go slower than he actually can in qualifying?

His best bet is to start from as high up as possible, He's not gonna catch a car that's 1.5s per lap faster than him, so try to start ahead of them. Considering the gap to Ferrari, his qualfying performances have been outstanding. Pity the BMW's sre so unreliable in the races...

Mr , i know everything, please read my previous post.

[KinetiK]

Originally posted by maclaren

No finishes, no wins

JPM is a bit like Trulli. Both are good qualifiers, both can overtake, both are blocking very hard, both are slower racers than teammates

No finishes?

No wins?

As for your last statement about JPM being slower than Ralf:

Juan may get a few more poles but he's gotta use his brain more. Perhaps Silverstone 2002 will be his Canada 2001 where he gets his butt kicked by Frank & Patrick and he'll start to perform on Sundays.

[Arrow]

Originally posted by maclaren

No finishes, no wins

JPM is a bit like Trulli. Both are good qualifiers, both can overtake, both are blocking very hard, both are slower racers than teammates

Get a clue

[MONTOYASPEED]

Originally posted by KinetiK
Juan may get a few more poles but he's gotta use his brain more. Perhaps Silverstone 2002 will be his Canada 2001 where he gets his butt kicked by Frank & Patrick and he'll start to perform on Sundays.

Montoya crashed in Canada 2001.

[Punisher6]

Originally posted by Thunder
The only thing minus for him is the way he accuse his team publicly.

Montoya calls it like it is, if he messes up, he says so. When the team messes up, he also says so. He is a no BS kind of guy, I for one appreciate it.

[Smooth]

Originally posted by MONTOYASPEED


Montoya crashed in Canada 2001.

I think he was referring to that. After JPM crashed at Montreal, Frank had some words with him, and his form began to improve.

[KinetiK]

Originally posted by Smooth


I think he was referring to that. After JPM crashed at Montreal, Frank had some words with him, and his form began to improve.

Yup

Somethings up with Juan in the last few races or perhaps something never changed... i have no clue. I hope he gets his **** in order because Ralf is incapable of taking the fight to Ferrari as clearly demonstrated by his nonfight for position with Michael on Sunday.

[Thunder]

Originally posted by Punisher6


Montoya calls it like it is, if he messes up, he says so. When the team messes up, he also says so. He is a no BS kind of guy, I for one appreciate it.

To the public? No he shouldnt. He must unite the team , not the reverse.

[logic]

Nice poll again
Yes he will.

[KinetiK]

Originally posted by Thunder


To the public? No he shouldnt. He must unite the team , not the reverse.

So right, there are things that should be left behind closed doors!

If Juan is saying something to the team in private and they aren't acting on his suggestions or he feels like he is not being listened to does he honestly think that anything will change inside the team if he goes public with it? Now look at that last statement I made and think of it again in the Williams context. Juan better not be airing his dirty laundry too often... otherwise

[juanftoro]

Originally posted by Thunder



Who knows if Montoya sacrify Pole pos. to race performance like MS do , he can have a shot maybe.

What a non-sense !!! are you saying that MS has not tried to get the pole during the last three races?

[Punisher6]

Originally posted by Thunder


To the public? No he shouldnt. He must unite the team , not the reverse.

If you know anything about Montoya you know he is incredibly liked a Grove. If things go bad or are done improperly, do you think the team doesn't know? Is it a secret? Maybe Montoya knows how to motivate and get things done? Maybe he's learned that bringing something to light in the media gets things changed quicker? Who knows, I bet you couldn't find any one at Williams that wants him out of there.

[Mrv]

If the Ferrari holds up he has no chance. Remaining circuits will favor Ferrari.

[Smooth]

Originally posted by Punisher6
I bet you couldn't find any one at Williams that wants him out of there.

How much you want to put down? I bet Ralf wouldn't mind seeing JPM's bags packed!;)

[Punisher6]

Originally posted by Smooth


How much you want to put down? I bet Ralf wouldn't mind seeing JPM's bags packed!;)

Yeah, ok I wasn't counting "him"

[Inness]

Originally posted by Smooth


How much you want to put down? I bet Ralf wouldn't mind seeing JPM's bags packed!;)

[Punisher6]

Originally posted by Mrv
If the Ferrari holds up he has no chance. Remaining circuits will favor Ferrari.

WOW! An Mrv sighting? We've been wondering where you were. Everyting ok?

[Ghostrider]

Montoya may have a shot at Indy or Monza. Other than that it will be very difficult. But anything can happen.

[MrBreaker]

To the public? No he shouldnt. He must unite the team , not the reverse.

I disagree. After Montoya and Ralf were open about the lousy TC, and as a result, Williams finally did something about it. Montoya will win races this year, and is nothing like Trulli. He usually laps faster than Ralf in the races, so where this idea that he races poorly comes from is beyond me. IMO, I think he is very capably of winning Monza, Hockenheim, Spa and Indy.

[MortenF1]

One is tempted to suggest a Williams win in Monza, but after Canada, I'm very unsure. Even monza might be a Ferrari circuit now.

I can't believe Ferrari's pace! After Nurburgring qual, I thougt some of the teams had cought up a bit, but no, Ferrari went on to lap 2.3 secs faster than Williams and McLaren at the early part of the race. Boringly fast is what they are.

[MortenF1]

Originally posted by MrBreaker


I disagree. IMO, I think he is very capably of winning Monza, Hockenheim, Spa and Indy.

Hockenheim?? have you forgot it's been partly re-built?

[Goggles]

Nope.

In order for him to have a chance, both Ferraris will have to break down.

And when is the last time that's happened?

[MortenF1]

Naaah. BOTH Ferraris? Only Michaels. Rubens can easily be beaten.

[logic]

Actually I'll take my words back! Because remaining races will favor McLaren and McLaren already improved past Williams so Montoya can't win if Kimi finishes.