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#1 nigel red5

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Posted 06 July 2002 - 21:35

Well, Silverstone 2002 has`nt been fun for the local wildlife has it!

Friday seemed animal-free, but we got more than our fair share on Saturday. In Sat morning practice pt 1, digital viewers saw a hare zipping across the gravel trap at priory corner, just as the session was about to start.
Then, on the installation laps Eddie Irvine had to almost make an emergency stop to aviod another (possibly the same) hare as he was building up speed on the hangar straight.

Three strikes and your out as they say....... During part 2 of the Sat morning session we suddenly see Mcnish`s Toyota mostly brown & red covered. John Watson straight away "He`s hit a hare or a rabbit no doubt". Then, the digital director shows us the replay of how Allan`s car came to be in that state.
I honestly did`nt know whether to look or not. The replay was at almost "real" speed......Mcnish barrelling down the straight. The luckless animal changes it`s tragectory at the last minute..............fatal.
Kudos to the replay guy. He paused the replay when Mcnish was literaly about 2 feet away. I did for one awful moment think that they would show it.............but the viewers were spared of the resultant collision. The car looked bad enough anyway, so we could imagine. Allan later said that he thought at first it was a bird, and that he`s not expecting a christmas card from the local animal welfare society this year!

Then in the afternoon qualifying session, world feed viewers (this was`nt shown on the digital i think), the bravest hare of them all decided it`d be fun to play "chicken" with the cars and run UP hangar straight in the middle of the road towards them! A Jordan & a Renault lost....and the hare won.

Have we ever seen this amount of appearring wildlife during an F1 weekend before??

I certainly remember 1997 at Silverstone when HHF just missed one on the start finish straight.

Australia 2000, Jenson Button`s first real taste of F1 competition - he hit a bird on the Friday, and that seemed to shake him a bit.

Austria of course has a history of wildlife, esp. the deers. There`s the famous Montoya "oh deer!" incident of last year during the Sat morning practice. Tim Preston was`nt sure if JPM knew what a deer was, and so he shouted him on the radio saying that "It`s like a horse with horns" :rotfl:
Also in Austria, Stefan Johansson hit a deer full-on during practice in 1987 - the remains of his car can be seen on the 1987 F1 season review video - he was a lucky guy by the looks of it.

Brazil does`nt escape either! In 1999 (don`t remember which day) a stray dog dodged about three marshalls in the middle of a practice session before being rugby tackled violently by a fourth. No-one knows what happened to our 4-legged friend.

.....and finally, just before the Sat qualifying session for Italy 1993 there was a 4 ft snake :eek: slithering it`s way around the barrier on the outside of the lesmo curves.

Are there any other similar moments from the past?, and what would you do in a similar position if you were confronted by a stray animal at 190mph?

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#2 StickShift

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Posted 06 July 2002 - 21:37

Paul Tracy introduced a squirrel to his radiator at Road America in 1994. IIRC, There was quite a graphic picture of a crew member scooping red 'goo' out of a sidepod.

#3 MLC

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Posted 06 July 2002 - 21:44

In 1987, Stephen Johanssen destroyed his MacLaren at the Osterichring after a deer ran across the road. The deer didn't fare much better. There is a quite the photograph in the 1987 issue of the Autocourse annual.

#4 Liam

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Posted 06 July 2002 - 22:04

The pit lane at Mexico in the 60's ran sweep stakes as to who would be the first to see or hit a dog on the track. Jackie Srewart lost a race in the early 70's because he hit a dog there.

#5 jonpollak

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 00:49

"Oh Deer"
'Classic Dry Wit' from the Columbian.... and Williams missed it!!!!!
He had to explain it to them..?.... :drunk:

I agree with your 'directors cut' on the McNish rabbit kill..

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#6 Arska

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 00:55

Hakkinen hit a rabbit at high speed on a straight in Nürburgring, I believe it was '95.

#7 cv2000

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 05:00

Any pictures of Mcnish killing HARES!
lol

#8 StickShift

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 05:16

I wouldn't want to look. Posted Image

#9 jh-1

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 09:22

Try this :
http://f1files.f1new...bbit-mcnish.mpg
( it is without the crash - just seconds before and after)

But better is this:
http://f1files.f1new...free-rabbit.mpg
(rabbit nearly collide with EI, but both survived unhurt)

#10 Riker!

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 10:02

That 2nd one is better, look how much he misses it by.

#11 MinardiRules

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 11:38

The rabbit's quicker than the Jag!!! :rotfl:

#12 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 11:46

Why oh why is no-one putting as a title head

The Tortoya & the Hare?


Awful puns are wasted on you lot ;)

#13 AlesiUK

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 11:51

not the first such instance,i remember Stefan Johansson having a massive accident when he hit a deer,at the old oisterrichring,it was in a maclaren so im gonna guess it was 1987.

#14 AlesiUK

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 11:55

the Johansson incident was massive,the car was a complete write off.so was the deer!

i recall a dog on the track at Mexico city,qualifying i think,early ninties,92 or 93 maybe?

come to think of it i think it was the same year senna rolled at peredalta?

#15 StickShift

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 14:16

Originally posted by Richie Jenkins
Why oh why is no-one putting as a title head

The Tortoya & the Hare?


:lol:

#16 AlesiUK

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 23:10

What about Phoenix in 1991?

Friday morning practice had to be stopped because a man on crutches had got on to the track and was attempting to comit suicide by lying down in the middle of the track,several cars had to swerve to avoid him.

#17 confucius

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 03:06

Yeah they should've hit the guy at Hockenheim.

#18 annica

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 03:12

Originally posted by confucius
Yeah they should've hit the guy at Hockenheim.


That French fellow who was an ex-employee of Mercedes? Hmm. I feel hitting him with an F1 car would have been too dangerous for the driver concerned not to say it would have ended their race.

He should have been run-over by safety car though. F1's TV ratings would have increased nicely, I would imagine.

#19 Ricardo F1

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 03:20

Originally posted by annica


That French fellow who was an ex-employee of Mercedes? Hmm. I feel hitting him with an F1 car would have been too dangerous for the driver concerned not to say it would have ended their race.

He should have been run-over by safety car though. F1's TV ratings would have increased nicely, I would imagine.


Yeah, whack him with the medical car - I mean they did it to Nakano didn't they?

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#20 Brother Fox

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 03:44

Originally posted by annica

He should have been run-over by safety car though. F1's TV ratings would have increased nicely, I would imagine.


Oh the irony - who makes those safety cars again?

why the big deal about a rabbit, its not like its a person?

#21 Ricardo F1

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 03:45

Originally posted by Brother Fox


Oh the irony - who makes those safety cars again?

why the big deal about a rabbit, its not like its a person?


But it coulda been me tea!

#22 annica

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 03:55

Originally posted by Ricardo F1
Yeah, whack him with the medical car - I mean they did it to Nakano didn't they?


Are you trying to refer to Taki Inoue's excellent adventure at Hungrarian GP 1995 at the bumpers of a Marshall's car?

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In any case, this hardly qualifies for this thread. A driver on track side this thread is about not. Good inspiration, though.

#23 Ricardo F1

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 03:59

Ah yes, Inoue. Unbelievable that poor chaps luck was. I was merely following your inspiration for other cars to hit the Mercedes man who I believe is now Rubens Barichello's gardener and chief trophy polisher! :D

#24 AlesiUK

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 10:30

would i not be correct in saying that the unfortunate mr Inoue managedto be involved in 2 incidents with the SC in the same year?as well as his infamous hunngary incident didnt he also crash in to it at monaco whilst being towed? :rotfl:

#25 Tomecek

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 10:50

Originally posted by annica


Are you trying to refer to Taki Inoue's excellent adventure at Hungrarian GP 1995 at the bumpers of a Marshall's car?

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In any case, this hardly qualifies for this thread. A driver on track side this thread is about not. Good inspiration, though.

What happened to that guy?! Broken leg?

#26 Riker!

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 10:52


:up:Posted Image


LMAO!!!

That pic is a classic :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :up:

#27 mikedeering

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 12:33

Dario Franchitti hit a hare during a DTM race at the Nurburgring in 95 IIRC.

The camera work was worthy of an Oscar - something like this:

Close up of hare, surrounded by grey tarmac

ZOOM OUT

Hare is now clearly sitting on a stretch of tarmac, with grass to the left of the shot.

ZOOM OUT

Hare is clearly sitting on a race track - and apparently is on the racing line. What's that at the top of the picture? Looks like a Mercedes.

ZOOM OUT

Mercedes appears to be heading for hare at undimished speed. Looks like a C-Class.

BANG

Where did the hare go? And come to thing of it, where did the front of that Mercedes go?

I saw the incident on Europort, and a few days later saw a US version of events. One minute Dario's car was fine, then their appeared to be a continuity error as his car was missing the front bumper. The actual incident was not shown - presumable because the US National Hare Society would have been in uproar. I guess its OK to shoot your neighbour, but not acceptable to hurt a little bunny rabbit accidently in an autorace!

#28 Riker!

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 10:04

Yeah ive seen that one with the Mercedes its brilliant Camera work.

#29 Viktor

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 10:18

Not F1 but 125 MotoGP.
Masao Azuma hit a deer with his 125 bike in practise at Berno in 1999. Both the deer and the bike was written off but Azuma was very lucky to walk away unhurt, but he has not been as fast sence then.

I honestly did`nt know whether to look or not. The replay was at almost "real" speed......Mcnish barrelling down the straight. The luckless animal changes it`s tragectory at the last minute..............fatal.
Kudos to the replay guy. He paused the replay when Mcnish was literaly about 2 feet away. I did for one awful moment think that they would show it.............

I felt the same way, I was very happy that he paused the replay.

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#30 Hakk

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 10:41

Those animals are the problem in Montreal also. I can't remember what the animals were that are living there but they are about the size of a rabbit. Anyways, Mika Hakkinen has took one of those down.

#31 The Fazz

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 11:35

re Taki's accident: how did it happen? I mean, to be hit by a Lada... poor guy. :|

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 12:03

Originally posted by AlesiUK
would i not be correct in saying that the unfortunate mr Inoue managedto be involved in 2 incidents with the SC in the same year?as well as his infamous hunngary incident didnt he also crash in to it at monaco whilst being towed? :rotfl:

That's correct. Jean Ragnotti, driving the official Renault Clio pace car, crashed into Inoue's racecar that was being towed to the pits at the end of a practice session. The F1 car flipped upside down with poor Inoue still inside! Thankfully he didn't get hurt in that spectacular little incident.

#33 Viktor

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 16:38

Going a bit OT but it's fun :lol:
http://f1ad.narod.ru.../Drivers/Inoue/

Then in Monaco he was Captain Chaos again, when he was hit, of all things, by the safety car. In Saturday practice, he had stopped on the track, and was being towed back when the session was over with Inoue still in the car.
Meanwhile, French rally ace Jean Ragnotti had decided to take the Renault safety car out for a spin, and he hit the Arrows coming into the swimming pool section. The F1 car was written off as it flipped. Inoue did not have his belts on, but he had his helmet on, and a chunk was taken out of that! He was fortunate that concussion was all he got. Eventually starting the race last, he was put out by a gearbox failure.


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#34 cheesy poofs

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 16:54

Originally posted by Hakk
Hakk Those animals are the problem in Montreal also. I can't remember what the animals were that are living there but they are about the size of a rabbit. Anyways, Mika Hakkinen has took one of those down.



The animal you are refering to is a groundhog. Every year marshalls and spectators alike spot them scurrying around trying to get a good seat !

One of 'em tried to get a front row seat on Alesi's front wing...he didn't make it :cry:

#35 John B

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 19:08



In 1988 a rabbit was hit by one of the Penske cars leading at Indy. I'm not sure about this, but the resulting yellow may have been when Rick Mears got a lap back from team Unser Sr and went on to win, so it could have been an expensive rabbit.

The "horse with horns" story is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. :lol:

#36 nigel red5

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 19:37

AlesiUK, I`ve never ever heard that story. I`ll need to get that on video now! (re: Phoenix suicide attempt)

.....and just for John B & JonPollak, here`s the full thing in all it`s glory.

Austria 2001. Sat morning practice.

Tim Preston : "Juan, In this lap please, in this lap. Erm, we`ve seen a deer on the cir we believe it`s somewhere on the circuit, so just come in cautiously please."

JPM : "Oh deer!"

Tim Preston : "Yeah a deer........it`s like a horse with horns."

JPM : "....(laughing).....i know i know........oh deer....HE HE HE HE HE"

Sheer class.

#37 Garagiste

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 19:49

:rotfl:
Thank you Nigel, that is superb! :up: :lol:

More seriouly I really would not want to hit a deer with driving a racing car. :eek: A few years back a car hit a deer near my home town, and a coach driver behind had his arm broken by (most of) the beast as it came through his windscreen. He stopped it OK, but it wasn't too pretty.

#38 Scudetto

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 20:00

Originally posted by mikedeering
Dario Franchitti hit a hare during a DTM race at the Nurburgring in 95 IIRC.


Are you refering to this movie clip? (Right click on link and select "Save target as.")

#39 Rediscoveryx

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 22:57

Alan Stacey's fatal accident is believed to have been caused by Stacey being hit in the face by a bird. Also, Jim Clark was hit in the face by a bird at the French GP in 1964(?)

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#40 masterhit

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Posted 09 July 2002 - 23:29

Slightly off topic, but I remember seeing a documenatry on the Isle of Man TT race, and the in bike footage of one of the riders cut short - he hit a horse and was killed.

#41 confucius

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Posted 10 July 2002 - 01:10

Originally posted by nigel red5
Brazil does`nt escape either! In 1999 (don`t remember which day) a stray dog dodged about three marshalls in the middle of a practice session before being rugby tackled violently by a fourth. No-one knows what happened to our 4-legged friend.


Isn't it one of Schumacher's pet dogs now?

#42 LB

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Posted 10 July 2002 - 02:44

I hit a deer on the way to the GP - does that count :)

#43 aportinga

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Posted 12 July 2002 - 13:04

Is Kimi actually looking into a corner or checking out this furry little friend???


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