I have heard that Ian Fraser Jones, the South African champion, of 1958 and 1959 has died.
Fraser Jones started racing after the war but was best known for his successes at the wheel of a Porsche Spyder 550RS.
He told me that he "imported" the car directly from the factory.
It would appear that he had some "assistance" from the factory during his 1960 trip to Europe.
In 1960 he raced this car in Europe and he told me that he had the following results -
11 June : GP Adriatique, Yugoslavia - 1st
19 June : Circuito Di Caserta, Italy - fastest lap
Does anyone perhaps have some more detail on these events and the "quality" of the opposition?
If anyone has information about other racing events that Fraser Jones may have participated in while in Europe I would be pleased to know.
By the way, FJ took part in the 1954 Monte Carlo Rally sharing a Sunbeam Talbot 90 with Leslie Brooke. Would anyone be able to tell me the result they achieved?
Thanks
Rob
Ian Fraser Jones
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ry6
, Jul 15 2002 19:01
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Roger Clark
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Posted 15 July 2002 - 20:23
Originally posted by ry6
By the way, FJ took part in the 1954 Monte Carlo Rally sharing a Sunbeam Talbot 90 with Leslie Brooke. Would anyone be able to tell me the result they achieved?
Thanks
Rob
198th overall, 96th in class
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Posted 16 July 2002 - 11:15
I can confirm his win in Preluk circuit (Adriatic GP) - you can find him mentioned here: http://www.atlasf1.c...&threadid=17461 But he is mentioned as Rhodesian. It is strange, anyway, that a SA citizen was permitted to visit Yugoslavia - I know that later South African motorcycle racers couldn't race at Yugoslavian GP unless they hade some other passport too... But probably back in 1960. Yugoslavian anti-apartheid politics wasn't so strong yet.
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Posted 16 July 2002 - 19:53
One more date:
He also competed in the Trento-Bondone round of the Europeqan Mountain Championship (at Montevideo-Vason) on 10 July, but was not placed after losing a wheel
He also competed in the Trento-Bondone round of the Europeqan Mountain Championship (at Montevideo-Vason) on 10 July, but was not placed after losing a wheel
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Posted 17 July 2002 - 08:18
Originally posted by dmj
I can confirm his win in Preluk circuit (Adriatic GP) .
DMJ: Do you have full results of that race?
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dmj
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Posted 17 July 2002 - 15:01
No, just what Wolf posted in another thread. But I believe I could find more when I'll have some time to spare... Sadly, with current situation at work it can take some time...
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ry6
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Posted 21 July 2002 - 08:44
Some feedback, but unsubstantiated :
1. It appears that Fraser Jones acquired a Porsche RS60 for his races in Europe and did not take his 550 Spyder to Europe from South Africa.
2. I have also heard that he entered a race at the N'ring but crashed in practise.
3. There was also talk that he did a race in Scandanavia.
I would be interested to know if in fact he did acquire an RS60 and its subsequent fate and what race he entered at the 'Ring.
Any help would be much appreciated.
1. It appears that Fraser Jones acquired a Porsche RS60 for his races in Europe and did not take his 550 Spyder to Europe from South Africa.
2. I have also heard that he entered a race at the N'ring but crashed in practise.
3. There was also talk that he did a race in Scandanavia.
I would be interested to know if in fact he did acquire an RS60 and its subsequent fate and what race he entered at the 'Ring.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Posted 21 July 2002 - 11:20
Originally posted by ry6
Some feedback, but unsubstantiated :
1. It appears that Fraser Jones acquired a Porsche RS60 for his races in Europe and did not take his 550 Spyder to Europe from South Africa.
2. I have also heard that he entered a race at the N'ring but crashed in practise.
3. There was also talk that he did a race in Scandanavia.
I would be interested to know if in fact he did acquire an RS60 and its subsequent fate and what race he entered at the 'Ring.
Any help would be much appreciated.
It was the 1000K race on May 22nd.
From DSJ's report in Motor Sport: South African driver Fraser-Jones should have been in this class [1151-1600cc sports] with his new RS60 but he crashed badly in unofficial practice...
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ry6
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Posted 25 July 2002 - 19:34
1. I have been able to find out a bit more about the fate of the RS60.
Evidently Fraser Jones was not happy with the car and said (more or less) that it was not as good as his old 550 Spyder so he sold it to a Portugese driver. This driver evidently wrote it off soon after acquiring it.
Does anybody perhaps know if it is true that only 12 of the RS60 model were built?
2. After he sold the RS60 Fraser Jones acquired a magnificent Porsche Carrera Abarth (apparently one of only 10 built) which he brought to South Africa and raced sparingly.
He won the "2nd City of Lourenco Marques Trophy" (50 laps) with it and came home 4th in the sports/GT section of the 35 lap ATCM Trophy the same day.
The ATCM Trophy was rather unique, it was a "concurrent" race for open wheel cars like Cooper T43's, Cooper T51's, LDS etc as well as sportscars such as D Type Jag, Maserati 300S, Lotus 15 and even a very hot Alfa Ti !
3. Has anybody had any luck with the full results of the Preluk race that Fraser won?
Evidently Fraser Jones was not happy with the car and said (more or less) that it was not as good as his old 550 Spyder so he sold it to a Portugese driver. This driver evidently wrote it off soon after acquiring it.
Does anybody perhaps know if it is true that only 12 of the RS60 model were built?
2. After he sold the RS60 Fraser Jones acquired a magnificent Porsche Carrera Abarth (apparently one of only 10 built) which he brought to South Africa and raced sparingly.
He won the "2nd City of Lourenco Marques Trophy" (50 laps) with it and came home 4th in the sports/GT section of the 35 lap ATCM Trophy the same day.
The ATCM Trophy was rather unique, it was a "concurrent" race for open wheel cars like Cooper T43's, Cooper T51's, LDS etc as well as sportscars such as D Type Jag, Maserati 300S, Lotus 15 and even a very hot Alfa Ti !
3. Has anybody had any luck with the full results of the Preluk race that Fraser won?
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Posted 25 July 2002 - 21:19
Rob,
according to the "Guide Porsche - Tous les modeles année par année" 14 RS60s were built by Wendler.
according to the "Guide Porsche - Tous les modeles année par année" 14 RS60s were built by Wendler.
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Posted 26 July 2002 - 13:29
Purely from my memory, but I think 21 or 22 Carrera Abarths were built (I have a copy of Ruotteclassiche with full chassis listing somewhere...)
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Posted 22 September 2024 - 10:35
Ian Fraser-Jones won the 4th Krugersdorp Hill Climb, South Africa, 13 September 1958, "In his new Porsche Spyder."
The car was registered TJ 1684. Winning time 57.4 secs.
See: https://forums.autos.../#entry10731120
RGDS RLT
Edited by Rupertlt1, 22 September 2024 - 10:45.
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Rob Miller
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Posted 22 September 2024 - 19:37
The Porsche 550A was the ideal car for racing in Southern Africa at the end of the 50's and early 60's. Fast and reliable, it was competitive in both the SA Championship and long distance races. After Ian Fraser-Jones it went on to further success in the hands of Dr. Dawie Gous. Unfortunately it came to a very unhappy ending.
