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[Tomecek]

Hi folks!
Now with three weeks break in F1 (hard to survive) and with thread about fastet corner and about most dengerus corner behind us, I'd like to know which three corners on recent F1 circuits are yours most favourite?!

Well, mine are Eau Rouge definitely, then Remus (A1 Ring) and Ste Devote (Monaco). I enjoy them in Grand Prix 3

Thanks for your tips!

[Gemini]

When watching onboard cameras Eau Rouge and other Spa corners are mine favourites...

From what I experienced in F1 sims, I alway liked the challenge of 130R (Suzuka), great satisfaction when taken 100% right on the limit, big "ooooppps" when things went wrong...

[PeppeF1]

In F1:

Mobilkom/A1 Kurve -> A1 Ring
Piratella-Acque Minerali, Rivazza -> Imola
Turn 13 -> Indianapolis (F1)
Descida do Sol/Senna S, Ferradura, Juncao-Subida dos Boxes-Arquibancadas -> Interlagos
Grande Courbe-Estoril -> Magny Cours
Parabolica -> Monza
Pangkor Laut Chicane, Genting Curve, KLIA Curve, Sunway Lagoon Corner -> Sepang
Maggotts-Becketts-Chapel -> Silverstone
Eau Rouge-Raidillon, Pouhon, Fanges, Blanchimont -> SPA
'S' Curves, 130R, Degner, Spoon -> Suzuka

Others:

Turn 1 -> Cleveland
The Corkscrew -> Laguna Seca
'S' des Sabières, Gauche de la Bretelle -> Dijon Prenois

[Toyoter]

No one else will agree with me, but my favorite is turn 1 at Indianapolis. In just two years, I've seen plenty of action there first hand: MS passing Coulthard at the beginning of the 2000 race when DC was trying to hold him up, Villeneuve trying to squeeze past Frentzen for 3rd place at the end of that same race but overcooking the corner and going through the grass, JPM drafting MS down the long straight and then outbraking him like a madman to get past him for the lead in 2001, Jean Alesi knocking off both of the Benettons in consecutive laps, etc. I've seen more overtaking in that corner in two years than I've seen in any other corner in F1 in 10 years it seems like. The rest of the layout at Indy may suck, but if you're sitting in the braking zone of turn 1, you are one happy camper.

[jun]

The old Tamburello. Seemed easy, but had a lot of (fatal) casualties.

[HP]

Eau Rouge at Spa
130R at Suzuka
Parabolica and Curva Grande at Monza

Curva Grande was better before they add the chicane before it

[Gemini]

Originally posted by jun
The old Tamburello. Seemed easy, but had a lot of (fatal) casualties.

Just wonder, how it can be the reason to like it?

[Tomecek]

Originally posted by Toyoter
No one else will agree with me, but my favorite is turn 1 at Indianapolis.

Believe me I believe you. This is really challenge corner and I love the Montoya overtook Schumacher there

Originally posted by jun
The old Tamburello. Seemed easy, but had a lot of (fatal) casualties.

Yes, I was watching 1994 San Marino Grand Prix (I get it from here , thanks friend) and I was surprised how difficult is to pass that corner watching driver's hands through onboard camera... Also Nelson Piquet in 1987, really terrible impact...

To be honest, I hate whole Suzuka Circuit, it's quite difficult drive it in Grand Prix 3, maybe I am next Alex Yoong :yawn:

Come on guys, another tips!

[HP]

Originally posted by Tomecek

To be honest, I hate whole Suzuka Circuit, it's quite difficult drive it in Grand Prix 3, maybe I am next Alex Yoong :yawn:

Initially I didn't like it too. In F1 championship season 2000 Suzuka is one of the learning tracks, showing the best line, and you need to meet certain time criterieas for the different sections. After I went through that, Suzuka was not that hard anymore but still a very enjoyable challenge. Too bad they dropped the testing part from further releases.

[glorius&victorius]

Road america: the kink, and most other corners.

Imola: old Villenueve, nice shot to see the cars out of the slipstream into Tosa, especially during
the starts.

Interlagos: Senna S-es

Japan: Spoon corner and 160R

Monza: old lesmo's

Mexico: peraltada corner (not sure about the spelling)

Monaco: coming down mirabeau, and new swimming pool is 110% spectaular!!!

Eau Rouge: especially Senna on slicks in the rain in 92! Truly amazing....
(busstop chicane is also a nice shot).

Adelaide was nice too, especially the chicane after the start, and that corner where Mika went off.

Many history and old circuits here. Safety concerns has taken away much excitement in F1.

[DOHC]

In the 60s when I started following F1, I found my favorite bends. Most of them don't exist anymore, but some that do, if in moderately modified forms are

Parabolica -- the bend where the slipstreaming, before the riodiculous chicanes, made it all happen, lap after lap. And the exciting opening radius of the bend that made the cars, running on the limit, exit on the outside. Awesome.

Monza also had the Curva Grande, spectacular for sheer speed, as I'm still talking about the pre-chicane era. The old Lesmo corners were also action to behold. The Ascari bend was totally destroyed.

The Eau Rouge/Raidillon complex at Spa was -- Spa!! WHat more could be said? I'm pleasantly surprised that the changes at Spa didn't remove that awesome bend, and that some new interesting complexes were added. I do like Pouhon a lot, the double apex fast bend, and Blanchimont.

Watkins Glen had the esses! Wow! Watkins Glen, in the fall of October with all the colors that made Canada have a maple leaf on the flag!! Upstate New York, rural, in teh middle of nowhere, but THE GLEN, a true gem linking racing history to modern times.

Of the newer circuits, 130R at Suzuka is a gem too!

The old Nurburgring, who's thought of that? When I got interested in F1, this was the circuit! 22.8 km, nobody really knew how many bends, one was "Flugplatz" where the cars really took off. Dangerous on the verge of being outrageous. It was only a matter of time before this venue had to be closed down.

Brands Hatch! Why isn't it used anymore! Paddock bend, Druids. Brands is a place where exciting times weren't ahead but present.

Laguna Seca! Imagine if it was just sligtly redone to make it an F1 circuit. Road America!!! With that priceless kink. Those CanAm circuits, that could have made absolutely awesone F1 tracks if one were really to make it a WORLD championship.

And should we forget completely about tracks in Australia (and New Zealand)? Is it by chance that people like Brabham, McLaren, Hulme, Amon and more are F1 legends? Down under, you're great people!

Zandvoort -- too tacky and old-fashioned, but it was all about racing. It was just impossible to convert it to one of those modern kart tracks, wasn't it?

The old Imola was also an exciting track. The Italians know how to do it. But the present version is just a modern version of what it was like.

Kyalami. Not anymore, I'm afraid.

Hermanos Rodriguez, legends in racing that got a circuit named after them. Interesting action, especially at the hairpin, but it's not the same and the great cars don't race there anymore.

And then, no matter how strange it may sound, Indianapolis, the home of ovals, in the old days, when it was the US vs Europe! The bends, the speed, the action.

I realize that I'm getting old. Racing was better in the old days. It was also much more awful. Drivers were slaughtered. The times they are a'changing.

[Frank Tuesday]

Eau Rouge/Radillon
Maggots/Becketts/Chapel
130R

Frank

[Dunder]

To be honest I prefer the technical sections to the 'glamour' corners.

Watching a driver take Eau Rouge or 130R flat is quite something, but for sheer precision the top drivers going through the Suzuka esses or Maggets/Becketts at Silverstone wins.

[The First MH]

The first two corners at both Monza and Imola

[Julius]

Originally posted by Toyoter
No one else will agree with me, but my favorite is turn 1 at Indianapolis...

I agree with you. That's a very intense corner. BTW, I was able to drive it via simulator before I ever saw a driver attempt it in real life and the results were about the same.

[BuonoBruttoCattivo]

Suzuka Spoon, Degner, Esses, First Curve, 130R
Pouhon-Stavelot
Rindt at the A1
Turn 13-14 at Sepang
Aque Minerali
Curva Schumacher @ Fiorano (that thing is really challenging).
Tetre Rouge and Porsche curves @ La Sarthe

[ehagar]

Old circuits

Nürburgring - Ex-Muhle, Döttinger Höhe
Solitude - Hedersbach Kurve, Lettenlöcher
Mosport - Corner 5A, 5B
Watkins Glen - The Esses
Spa - Masta Straight, Burneville
Monza - Curva Grande
Le Mans - Dunlop Bridge to Tertre Rouge
Rouen - The whole section to Nouveau Monde...
Bathurst Mount Panorama - Skyline, Esses, the dipper
Kyalami - Jukskei sweep, Clubhouse and Esses

Newer circuits

Elkhart Lake - The Kink, Canada Corner
Brainerd - Turn One
Spa - Eau Rouge
Suzuka - 130 R

[Flying Panda]

1) Hugenholtzbocht, Zandvoort
2) Carousel, Lakeside
3) Masta, Spa-Francorchamps

[jun]

Why Tamburello?
Well it was a real challenge! OK, it has been hard on some of them. But that's because if you got it wrong, there was that immediat wall.
So I 'll never believe the corner was to blame the Senna-crash. And the year it kept Piquet from taking part of the Imola GP, he still went on to become WDC! (maybe it wasn't his fault then, but that damn Williams)
And I hate ( ) what they did with it after '94!

[Amir_S]

my favourites:

1. Eau rouge Spa, the greatest corner comb in the universe. A tyre widths margin for making an error...no more no less. Stuff it and it will hurt.
2. 130 R Suzuka, Wicked just wicked.
3. Blanchimont.... reminds me alittle of the great tamburello before it got slaughtered. It's nice to see cars blasting through a curve doing 300 km/h. You don't get much of that with todays s*** tracks.
4. S curves at Suzuka. Extremely technichal, physically demanding and fast. Everything F1 should be about.

[Amir_S]

Originally posted by jun
Why Tamburello?
Well it was a real challenge! OK, it has been hard on some of them. But that's because if you got it wrong, there was that immediat wall.
So I 'll never believe the corner was to blame the Senna-crash. And the year it kept Piquet from taking part of the Imola GP, he still went on to become WDC! (maybe it wasn't his fault then, but that damn Williams)
And I hate ( ) what they did with it after '94!

I agree with you on one point. It was an absolute scandal how grown men started to react like little babies reacting in panic rather than with some mature after thoight. What they did to tamburello and the entire Imola circuit was simply criminal. They massacred the whole place. Sad, really sad.

[senna #1]

My votes for best corners;Eau Rouge, Turn ! Indy and Peraltata in Mexico. Does anyone remember seeing Mansell pass Berger on the outside in 90 or 91. David Hobbs sounded like he was having a heart attack when he announced the race.

[AtlanticRacer]

Going flat through the Kink at Road America is the hardest thing I have ever done in a race car - mentally speaking. Road America remains one of my favorite tracks. Eau Rouge is a whole different monster but I am sure it is equally daunting. 130R - AWESOME! I would love to drive Mosport at some point... sweeping fast corners. BMW or someone pulled out of that race a few years ago because the track was too dangerous or something like that.

[ebin]

Turn 2 at Mosport is a pretty scary turn.

Anyone got footage of Peraltada? The CART race won't be using Peraltada, it goes through the stadium instead. Tis a shame.

[mhferrari]

Any super-fast, on-the-edge turn like some of the aforementioned.

[Veronika]

Well...

1.Ostkurve *use your imagination*
2.Eau Rouge
3. Remus
4. Curve 12 at the Hungaroring, because everybody's crashing there!
5.Mirabeaux (hope I spelled that right)
6.Parabolica

Least favorite corner?

1.Spitzkehre-it's a joke of a corner.

[BMW FW22]

I think these corners are/where great

anthoniusbrucke - old ring
masta - old spa
stavelot - old spa
eau rouge - spa
the loop - watkins glen
mexico-t1
monza-Curva Grande, Parabolica (old)
zandvoort-scheivlak

[nigel red5]

I`ll have to be an old fart on this one i think.

Imola... Curva Tamburello
Mexico.... Peraltada!
Interlagos... The old T1 & T2 on the 70s circuit!
Paul Ricard... Signes (pre-1991)
Suzuka...... 130r
Spa.... Eau Rouge, Blanchimont
Monza... Lesmo 2 (pre-1994)

9 corners mentioned, and only 3 are still in use..........shame.