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[Doug Nye]

Silly query - can anyone speedily list winning driver/car combinations for the RAC Tourist Trophy race of recent years - since 1994???

DCN

[Vitesse2]

1996 and 1997 Alain Menu (Renault)

[Doug Nye]

Ah thanks - And since then....anybody???

DCN

[Darren Galpin]

19 July 1998 - Donington Park (ISRS)
Emmanuel Collard/Vincenzo Sospiri (Ferrari 333SP) 2h30m21.33, 97.76mph

[Doug Nye]

Good heavens! Another Ferrari victory in 'the' TT.... amazing what you don't take on board...

Thanks Darren.

Having completed my own trawling now it appears to be

1994 TT awarded for the FIA Touring Car World Cup invitational race run at Donington Park

WON by Paul Radisich (NZ) (Ford Mondeo saloon)

1995 NOT AWARDED (SO FAR AS I CAN SEE) - then a TOCA-type entry race at Donington Park as follows:

1996 - Alain Menu (Renault Laguna saloon)

1997 -- Alain Menu (Renault Laguna saloon)

1998 TT awarded for Sports Car World Cup race at Donington Park, duration 2hrs 30 mins - won by Emmanuel Collard/Vincenzo Sospiri (Ferrari 333SP)

1999 TT same again - Jean-Marc Gounon/Eric Bernard (Lola-Judd B98/10)

2000 The Tourist Trophy was not run as an individual race, but the actual trophy itself was awarded to the overall winner of the British GT Championship series, at the conclusion of the season - winner Calum Lockie (Marcos LM600 Mantara)

2001 same again - winner Mike Jordan/David Warnock (Lister Storm)

...or does anybody out there know better????


DCN

And of course the trophy has visited Goodwood Revival for the TT Celebration race at the Revival meetings... but they don't count.

[D-Type]

I wondered what happened to what the RAC used to proudly claim was "The World's oldest motor race" and a search found this thread.

Peter Higham follows what Doug has posted until 2000 and 2001 which he lists as sports car races at Donington similar to 1998 & 1999 with
2000 Cristian Pescatori (I) / David Terrien (F), Ferrari 333SP, 94.881 mph
2001 Ben Collins (GB) / Werner Lupberger (ZA), Ascari A410-Judd, 98.085 mph
As the book was published in 2003 and includes some 2002 results this suggests that was the last.

[Kevan]

I wondered what happened to what the RAC used to proudly claim was "The World's oldest motor race" and a search found this thread.

Peter Higham follows what Doug has posted until 2000 and 2001 which he lists as sports car races at Donington similar to 1998 & 1999 with
2000 Cristian Pescatori (I) / David Terrien (F), Ferrari 333SP, 94.881 mph
2001 Ben Collins (GB) / Werner Lupberger (ZA), Ascari A410-Judd, 98.085 mph
As the book was published in 2003 and includes some 2002 results this suggests that was the last.

The Donington races counted for the International Sports Racing Series/SportsRacing World Cup/FIA Sportscar Championhip, or whichever title was current in any given ear...Must admit I'd forgotten that the Tourist Trophy had been awarded for some of them, even though I was at most of them!
I thought I remembered it being awarded for the British GT Championship rather than an individual race at one point as well...

In recent years it's been awarded for the FIA GT race at Silverstone in May:

2005- Pedro Lamy/Peter Kox (Prodrive/Aston Martin Racing Aston Martin DBR9)
2006- Michael Bartels/Andrea Bertolini (Vitaphone Racing Maserati MC12)
2007- Mika Salo/Thomas Biagi (Vitaphone Racing Maserati MC12)
2008- Ryan Sharp/Karl Wendlinger (Jet Alliance Racing- Aston Martin DBR9)
2009- Ryan Sharp/Karl Wendlinger (K Plus K Motorsport- Saleen S7R)

Edited by Kevan, 28 January 2010 - 09:46.

[subh]

1997 -- Alain Menu (Renault Laguna saloon)

DCN

Yes, in 1997 the Tourist Trophy was a Super Touring event held at Donington Park on 18th-19th October. It was shown by the BBC as part of their BTCC coverage that year - it was effectively a BTCC entry with a few wildcards and guests from the German series. Menu was competing for Williams Renault Dealer Racing and he won the second heat as well as the final. The first heat was won by pole-sitter Anthony Reid in his Primera for Vodafone Nissan Racing (which means Nissan Motorsports Europe/Ray Mallock Limited), and this was apparently Nissan’s first Super Touring win in the UK since 1993.

Various reports on the weekend here:
http://www.motorspor...p?S=BTCC&Y=1997

Edited by subh, 29 January 2010 - 11:51.

[Kevan]

Yes, in 1997 the Tourist Trophy was a Super Touring event held at Donington Park on 18th-19th October. It was shown by the BBC as part of their BTCC coverage that year - it was effectively a BTCC entry with a few wildcards and guests from the German series. Menu was competing for Williams Renault Dealer Racing and he won the second heat as well as the final. The first heat was won by pole-sitter Anthony Reid in his Primera for Vodafone Nissan Racing (which means Nissan Motorsports Europe/Ray Mallock Limited), and this was apparently Nissan’s first Super Touring win in the UK since 1993.

Various reports on the weekend here:
http://www.motorspor...p?S=BTCC&Y=1997

The two-heat and final format caused all kinds of fun and games in qualifying- with only a single qualifying session deciding the grid for both heats, but with the heat 2 grid lining up in reverse order, the Renault and Nissan teams were canny enough to realise the best strategy was to have a car at each end of the timesheets. This led to the interesting spectacle of Alain Menu and David Leslie trying to set the slowest possible time, while staying within the 110% qualifying maximum.....As I remember, the favoured method seemed to be to do the lap at a fairly normal speed, before lifting off at the end of the straight and cruising slowly across the line...

The previous year's race had been run to a different format- an 80-lap mini-endurance race, with two compulsory pitstops, but no driver change. TOCA also reserved the right to throw in a pace car to close up the field, as they had done in the end-of-season TOCA Shoot-Outs a couple of years previously. From memory,even this didn't save the race from being a pretty dull afair, dominated by Alain Menu from pole.

One major problem was the entry- Several manufacturers (BMW, Audi, Ford, Peugeot) only fielding single cars, Vauxhall running their second car for new owner,Swedish privateer Jan Brunstedt, and Honda, in the process of switching teams from MSD to Prodrive, having to draft in the Linder outfit from Germany who brought their STW-Cup cars over for Marco Werner and James Kaye. A full two-car entry from Renault and a handful of privateers resulted in a paltry grid of 14 cars, and only 9 finishers.

Looking at the race programme for the SRWC race in 1999, it curiously makes no mention of the Tourist Trophy being awarded, the meeting being billed as
'The Very Fast Show, brought to you by CSMA/Britannia Rescue featuring Round 5 of the SRWC'.
Was awarding the Trophy for this race a late-in-the-day change of plan, or was it simply overlooked?

Edited by Kevan, 30 January 2010 - 11:59.

[Mal9444]

Silly query (to coin a phrase) - but does the RAC Tourist Trophy have anything to do nowadays with the RAC - by which I mean the founding establishment in Pall Mall, London now, I believe, properly called the RAC Club, the original name and letters having been sold to Green Flag (at a tidy little premium to the then existing members of the RAC, IIRC)?

I undertstand that the RAC (Club) still has a Competitions Committee (not least because I know someone who claims to be a member thereof - the committee, I mean, as well as the Club) and if so presumably that institution keeps minutes and records.

Edited by Mal9444, 31 January 2010 - 00:36.

[john winfield]

The Tourist Trophy mystery has re-appeared.  I'm not sure what Gary Watkins concludes as I'm too mean to subscribe.....

 

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[Doug Nye]

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[La Sarthe]

For the last three years it's been awarded to the winners of the Silverstone round of the World Endurance Championship - this year that was Andre Lotterer / Benoit Treluyer / Marcel Fassler in their Audi. The programme from this year's event has a short piece on this and shows a photo of last year's winners with the famous old trophy, so it's definitely the real thing! It's called the Royal Automobile Club Tourist Trophy in the programme and I note that nominated sporting organisation was the RAC MSA, so I guess that's the link.

[Louism]

Two weeks ago before the race at Silverstone...

 

 

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Edited by Louism, 25 April 2015 - 07:17.