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[Depa]

I am trying news on the "Tour de France auto" 1970. The competition gained from Depailler, Beltoise, Todt was composed from various tests in track and road. Has been carried out from the 18 to the 27 september. There is someone that can help me to find the race results? thanks to all

[tyrrellp34]

Hieronimus (Marius Matthee) can help you. I have a small movie about that event. There you can see Jean Todt sitting in the same car as Depailler. Todt was the navigator, Patrick the driver. Later J-P Beltoise drove together with Todt.

[Depa]

Yes Stefan. Depailler must have run the first three days then replaced from Beltoise. On the twin machine Jabouille it has been replaced from Pescarolo. But I do not have other data.

[kabouter]

Here is a page with results (and a record numbers of spelling mistakes...):
http://www.wspr-raci...ts/tdf/tdf.html

[cabianca]

Can someone enlighten me about Matra's use of three drivers in the 1970 Tour de France. Since the cars only had two seats, it would appear that different co-drivers were used on different days of the event. Did the regulations really allow this. No other cars that year show three drivers. I think, in earlier years, the co-driver had to run at least one of the speed events. Could the third driver have really been a rally navigator to make sure that the cars lost no points during the road sections. Then, at the required speed event, the second driver was put in. Just a theory.

[tyrrellp34]

Ok here the fact:

Jean Todt was alway "just" the navigator. First Patrick Depailler drove the Matra and later Jean-Pierre Beltoise took over. But Todt was always on board..

[Hieronymus]

Is there please perhaps someone that can help me with a magazine race report of this race? Anything from SPORT AUTO, ECHAPPEMENT, AUTOSPORT, etc.

I also try to get hold of all the different "stage" results/classifications.

[RS2000]

The French guys on Forum Auto would probably be best placed to help - there is a long thread on T de F Auto there.

[fausto]

I may have something from Autosprint, I'll check tomorrow, then let you know...

[Hieronymus]

Thanks guys.

Yes, the FORUM AUTO thread on the Automobile Tour de France is massive. Nice photos from several years, but not the 1970 race report I try to find.

Did AUTOSPORT ever report on these events? Being the quality magazine it is, I shall be quite suprised if they did not cover it.

[VDP]

The french Magazine l'automobile coverd the all race with full results

Robert

[Hieronymus]

Robert

Do you perhaps know someone who will have a copy of l'Automobile? I only need a copy of the 1970 TdeF report...not the whole magazine. Thanks.

[Hubert Baradat]

Tour de France 1970 - Results from "L'Automobile" nr 294 - Nov 1970







I hope it helps.

[Hieronymus]

Hubert, you're THE man! This is exactly what I was looking for. I'll be happy to return the favour.

It is most interesting to see how closely match the two Matras were on the circuit stages. Fractions of a second separating them, but then on the hillclimb stages, Beltoise clearly had the edge over Pescarolo.

[Bruno]

merci Hubert.
as tu le résultat de la 275 GTB/C deCorentin/Prevost, n° 151 et plaque: 3400 0854
je ne la vois pas.
y avait-il d'autres Ferrari engagées et connait tu leur résultats

[Hubert Baradat]

Here is the report of the lonely Ferrari at the TdF 70. Note the 275 GTB was entered in Sport/Prototypes class ...

[Hubert Baradat]

The incredible Matra in the center of a little town somewhere in the south west of France (who knows this town ?) :


Photo "Sport-Auto" nr106 - Nov 70

You often search about something there is in front of your nose : behind Depailler adjusting his goggles with a funny prewar helmet ... the Ferrari 275 GTB is approching the starting line ! The charming lady at the starting flag needs help ...


Photo : cover of "Sport-Auto" nr106 - Nov 70

[Hieronymus]

Thank you very much, Hubert!

I am sure the "blonde" on the extreme left of the last photo is the wife of Patrick...Michele Depailler.

[Bruno]

mille merciS Hubert

is not Michèle.. but 275 GTB/4, it is well it. I had this Sport Auto.

[jarama]

Originally posted by Bruno
merci Hubert.
as tu le résultat de la 275 GTB/C deCorentin/Prevost, n° 151 et plaque: 3400 0854
je ne la vois pas.
y avait-il d'autres Ferrari engagées et connait tu leur résultats

Bruno,

the Ferrari's registration number was 3400 QB (or OB) 54:





Carles.

[thecako]

more info and picture on this french topic :tour de France

[Bruno]

yes, thank Jarama. I have this pics

[Stefan Schmidt]

Originally posted by Hieronymus
Thank you very much, Hubert!

I am sure the "blonde" on the extreme left of the last photo is the wife of Patrick...Michele Depailler.

No she isn't, Michele Depailler (63) looks now, 38 years later much younger than the lady on the photo... and she is very, very small ;)