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[Enkei]

Sarah's going to drive a demo for her homecrowd at Indy. She will be driving a McLaren, any idea which one? I'd like to keep the 17's in one piece ;)

[Electric Sheep]

From Atlas's news report:

the demonstration run will take place on Friday 27, and the American will drive the spare Mercedes-powered MP4-17

Perhaps she can replace DC for the race, given that he thinks he has no chance in hell of winning.

[GT Racing Online Magazine]

And she drives the car of a guy who has stated that "women will never be able to compete at the highest level in F1"...and I agree with him..

[Bumper]

Originally posted by GT Racing Online Magazine
And she drives the car of a guy who has stated that "women will never be able to compete at the highest level in F1"...and I agree with him..

Didn't Eddie Irvine say something similar recently? He was asked if he would drive in the IRL after his F1 career finished and he answered something like "No way, driving in a series where pole was set by a woman recently says it all really". I guess Eddie won't be cuddling up to her then that weekend

[Woking]

After Friday we'll definitely gonna see some headlines like "Fisher fastest on Friday!" ;)

[baddog]

I have this disturbed feeling that at some point this person is going to end up in a formula one race. I hope thats just irrational fear. And this is from me, who thinks that a competitive woman entrant would be the best thing that could happen to f1. Its just that sarah fisher very evidently isnt even close to being it.

Shaun

[Riker!]

Pfft she even looks dodgy

I reckon even Yoong would spank her. (In a car that is)

[vroom-vroom]

Originally posted by Bumper


Didn't Eddie Irvine say something similar recently? He was asked if he would drive in the IRL after his F1 career finished and he answered something like "No way, driving in a series where pole was set by a woman recently says it all really". I guess Eddie won't be cuddling up to her then that weekend

Where the hell is that 2-seater? That would be quite a show with Eddie or DC in the back! BTW, Eddie, pole positions are often set by women.

[mel]

I thought there was an old connection betwen Irvine and Sarah Kavanagh. Didn't he give/sell her one of his racing cars?

[Spunout]

"I reckon even Yoong would spank her. (In a car that is)"

[Flying Panda]

There is no c in "Fisher"

Originally posted by baddog
Its just that sarah fisher very evidently isnt even close to being it.

"very evidently" ?
what evidence ? I dont belive that she has ever competed on a road circuit, so I dont understand what evidence there is to suggest that she wont be a competitative entrant.

[Tomecek]

Sarah Fischer to drive McLaren @ indy

You men, you're always seeing yourself as something more than women

[Ghostrider]

McLaren is really getting serious about next year.

[Bumper]

Originally posted by Flying Panda
There is no c in "Fisher"


"very evidently" ?
what evidence ? I dont belive that she has ever competed on a road circuit, so I dont understand what evidence there is to suggest that she wont be a competitative entrant.

You just supplied the answer yourself
Oh and "belive" is spelt wrong FP

[GT Racing Online Magazine]

Originally posted by GT Racing Online Magazine
And she drives the car of a guy who has stated that "women will never be able to compete at the highest level in F1"...and I agree with him..

OK, for those who don't read F1 Racing, the guy refers to Ron Dennis (and what he said about Fisher and what is needed when driving ovals vs. road courses, in an interview...)

[Flying Panda]

Originally posted by Bumper
You just supplied the answer yourself

I dont think I supplied an answer at all.
Am I mean to believe that the majority of the grid were not competitative when they began their carrers ?
its not likely, but One season of Formula 3 might be all thats nessercarry to prepare Sarah Fisher for Formula One.

Oh and "belive" is spelt wrong FP

I know how bad I spell, thank-you

[baddog]

someone with ZERO road circuit experience, and who is mediocre in the IRL? come on flying panda (and tomocek). If she was the real deal Id be singing her praises to the rooftops.


Shaun

[Riker!]

Come on Guys she gets pole in IRL "THE IRL: Americas Premiere OW Series" (im wondering why Ferrari havent gotten onto her).

Like Baddog said No road experience, not that awesome in IRL. Its all a marketing stunt.

[Clatter]

Part of the reason for this stunt is to try and increase the interest in F1 in America, does anyone truly believe this will be the case?

I cant see why anyone would give a damn.

[dan2k]

Some of things that might happen if a woman was to join F1...

- Ron Dennis tells the press he has already asked Adrian Newey to design a new aero device, utilising Sarah Fischer's breasts.

- Eddie Irvine was seen comming out of McLarens motor home saying, "me and sarah had a conversation on what position she would like to start the sex... ummm race".

- Ferrari angered because McLaren is getting most of the attention from the media because they have a female driver, has now asked Rubens to grow breasts.

- Three cameramens have been fired today after they repeatly zoomed in on Sarah Fischer breasts while she drove over the very high and bumby Monza kerbs.

In other news

- DC is angry after the team decided they would fire him. DC now does commercials for the latests videogame console, the Nintendo 'Gamecube'.

[Flying Panda]

Originally posted by baddog
someone with ZERO road circuit experience, and who is mediocre in the IRL? come on flying panda (and tomocek). If she was the real deal Id be singing her praises to the rooftops.

Zero road circuit experience. that is exatcly what I am saying.
Dont write her off before she even gets in the car, the results could be surprising.

mediocre in the IRL. SO WHAT ? Oval and Circuit racing are two very different types of driving, and both take a great about of skill in order to be successful.
Being good at road racing in no way means you will be a good oval racer, just as being a good oval racer doesnt mean you'll be a good road racer. And it also mean that just beacuse your not good at one, doesnt meant that you wont be good at the other.

Nothing but a marketing stunt ?
I absolutley agree. If they serioesly wanted to test her, they'd take her to Silverston or Valencia, whouldnt they ?

Dont get me wrong, I dont expect her to be the next Raikkonen or anything, maybe not even the next Mazzacane, I just dont think that its fair that she gets such criticizm before she even gets into the car.

[Flying Panda]

Originally posted by Clatter
Part of the reason for this stunt is to try and increase the interest in F1 in America, does anyone truly believe this will be the case?

I cant see why anyone would give a damn.

Isnt she one of, if not, the most popular driver in the IRL ?

[Chris G.]

for a minute this thread was right above "Is McLaren getting serious?" thread.;)

So what if she's driving the Mclaren! They are not testing her for a full-time ride - it's a DEMONSTRATION!!!

[Clatter]

Originally posted by Flying Panda
Isnt she one of, if not, the most popular driver in the IRL ?

I dont know. But is the viewer base for IRL very large?

I've only seen a couple of races on tv myself and they really bored me, but the crowds looked non-existent.

[baddog]

Originally posted by Flying Panda

Zero road circuit experience. that is exatcly what I am saying.
Dont write her off before she even gets in the car, the results could be surprising.

mediocre in the IRL. SO WHAT ? Oval and Circuit racing are two very different types of driving, and both take a great about of skill in order to be successful.
Being good at road racing in no way means you will be a good oval racer, just as being a good oval racer doesnt mean you'll be a good road racer. And it also mean that just beacuse your not good at one, doesnt meant that you wont be good at the other.

Nothing but a marketing stunt ?
I absolutley agree. If they serioesly wanted to test her, they'd take her to Silverston or Valencia, whouldnt they ?

Dont get me wrong, I dont expect her to be the next Raikkonen or anything, maybe not even the next Mazzacane, I just dont think that its fair that she gets such criticizm before she even gets into the car.

well I have no road circuit experience, so do I get a shot?

if someone is mediocre on ovals, and has no road circuit experience, that would place them about 50014th in the list of people who should be sitting in an f1 car. It isnt about criticising her, hell she is taking whats offered and who wouldnt do the same. its about recognising what is in front of your face.

Shaun

[GT Racing Online Magazine]

Originally posted by Flying Panda

I just dont think that its fair that she gets such criticizm before she even gets into the car.

Well, to quote a female open wheel racer who I interviewed last year, who, when asked if she doesn't get fed up with the criticism she gets because she's a woman: "Well, it doesn't piss me off more than the knowledge that many female racers also raise positive media interest just because of their gender. If a female racer ever is to race on the top level she should do that because of her merits and not gender...[talking 'bout sponsorship]..I bet you'd find the % of girls getting sponsorship compared to the guys is higher. For example, there may be only 3 girls and 1 will get it. That's 33%. There are probably 100 guys and out of that only a handful are getting support. I can't imagine it's discrimination.
Finding sponsors is a huge amount of hard work.."

Would Sara Fisher have got that chance to drive the McLaren F1 car if she was a man racing in the mid-field in IRL? Don't thinks so.. I think it's quite pathetic how some of the guys rave about this person, just because she is a woman and not really based on her achievements (other than making it to IRL as a woman)...

[Math Soucy]

Did I read correctly that Sarah will be piloting the spare MP17?? The actual T-car for the USGP weekend??? My complaint is not that she's a female racing driver, but, with little or no experience in this machinery, what happens if she damages the equipment? What happens to Kimi or DC? I don't like this. Dust of the three-seater and demonstrate with that.

[Foxbat]

Originally posted by Math Soucy
Did I read correctly that Sarah will be piloting the spare MP17?? The actual T-car for the USGP weekend??? My complaint is not that she's a female racing driver, but, with little or no experience in this machinery,

It could be the spare tub, but even if it is the T-car I wouldn't worry too much. She only going to do some demo laps, I doubt she'll do anything remotly risky.

what happens if she damages the equipment? What happens to Kimi or DC? I don't like this.

AFAIK Sarah will 'compensate' them.

[Batman]

Originally posted by Riker!
Come on Guys she gets pole.....

gefaw gefaw he he gefaw hubba hubba fnarr fnarr

[Flying Panda]

Originally posted by Math Soucy
what happens if she damages the equipment? What happens to Kimi or DC?

Errr, the same thing that would happen if Kimi or DC damaged the equipment, i guess.

[Vagabond]

Originally posted by vroom-vroom
BTW, Eddie, pole positions are often set by women.

[robhood]

It's just a demo. C'mon. Anyway, Nicky L. said these things are a piece of cake to drive.

[AdrianM]

Good thing for Sarah, F1 and its popularity in the USA. Good luck Sarah

[maclaren]

Interesting that Bernie is also behind this, and didn't Bernie once state he never wants to see women driving in F1 again.

But if this is just media shunt, to do some american promotion for F1 I can understand Bernie.

I reckon even Yoong would spank her.

Hard to believe Yoong could be superior to any professional racer, he is that bad.

[EvilPhil]

why have a F1 demonstration straight after F1 practice, seems abit pointless to me ?!?!

a demonstration surely is held at a non-GP event not a third of the way through the show. Hope F1 isnt turning American on us that would be awful... talking of which how many safety car periods do you think they will run during the actual race ? I bet 2 at least.

[Toyoter]

I have GOT to see this. Anyone know exactly what time the demo will be on Friday?

[JohnE]

This is absolutely absurd, I don't understand why Tony George and the US media has to make a mockery of F1 and its drivers. First we have Danny Sullivan in a race suit doing interviews in the Paddock and now Sarah Fisher in a McLaren are you kidding me. Why don't they let someone who actually knows how to turn right drive the thing.
I bet she will take the car around the oval track and crash it into those goofy walls and the crowd will love it. I can't take it anymore, I am just going to start watching Nascar and get a labotomy.

[EvilPhil]

I can't take it anymore, I am just going to start watching Nascar and get a labotomy.

LOL very true.... good luck

[Vagabond]

It's a pity that Bernie cold not find a black woman racing driver. That would be really american way to do things and very politically correct

[cheesy poofs]

I just someone tells her that the track has more than 4 corners...

[Toyoter]

Originally posted by JohnE
This is absolutely absurd, I don't understand why Tony George and the US media has to make a mockery of F1 and its drivers. First we have Danny Sullivan in a race suit doing interviews in the Paddock and now Sarah Fisher in a McLaren are you kidding me. Why don't they let someone who actually knows how to turn right drive the thing.
I bet she will take the car around the oval track and crash it into those goofy walls and the crowd will love it. I can't take it anymore, I am just going to start watching Nascar and get a labotomy.

You can blame TAG Hauer for this one, not TG. Fisher recently signed a sponsorship deal with them in case you missed it. Hell, McLaren have obviously agreed to go along with the whole ordeal, so I would say they are doing more to "make a mockery" of F1 than anyone else...

[flsp]

No needs to get upset. This is just a Tag publicity stunt and it might create some US media intrest for the USGP.

Just like Jordan, in Hungary, who put a countryman in a car for some demonstration laps.

[Flash]

Interesting to see a gorl from the IRL driving a road course in a McLaren. It's just a DEMO and a novelty for american people, F1 tries to get some attention and Sara wants to promote her IRL... not everyone would be amazed though.
But anyway, why not....

[EvilPhil]

They might just be trying to find a team mate that David Coultard can actually beat ?!?!

[vroom-vroom]

Originally posted by EvilPhil
They might just be trying to find a team mate that David Coultard can actually beat ?!?!

You mean screw, right?

[EvilPhil]

LOL, no i dont... (rude word alert)

[biercemountain]

You can bet that Ron will have a long "talk" with Sarah about what she can and can't do in his precious carbon fibre property. It will be a demo run, with arms waving, as she putters around the F1 circuit. She won't even be timed because IT'S JUST A SHOW. Sure, she might stomp on the loud pedal on the straights but that's about it.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a woman in F1, but I'm sure there are women in F3 and other OW series that are much more deserving of a test.

Of course, THIS ISN'T A TEST. IT'S A PUBLICITY STUNT.

That being said, you do have to hand it to Sarah for being in the right place at the right time.

[jimmy mike]

Go for it Sarah!

And watch out DC, she after you ..

Irony of this whole thing is that Sarah Fisher is a first USA driver at F1 in decade. Not only she's woman but she has never take right hand corner. Says something about quality of racing in USA.

[vroom-vroom]

For the sake of information, could someone tell me who (if ever) was successful at F1 after an oval racing background. Didn't Mario have oval racing experience only? Foyt? Revson? Donohue?

[indycarjunkie]

Go Sarah!

Give her a chance guys! I doubt McLaren would let her drive the car flat out anyway. This is not a try-out as much as I'd like to wish it were. Its only a publicity stunt, and a very good one I might add. Just look at how much we're talking about it before its even happened.