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[mikedeering]

2002 Points Scores so far:

Ferrari 189
The Rest 201

Ferrari can theoretically score another 32 points this season to give them a final total of 221. I say theoretically, but I think it is unlikely they will not score the full 32! Schuey will obviously win Suzuka, Rubens looked pretty good at Indy last year, so I say a win for each of them, with the other being runner-up.

If they score the full 32, the Rest will score 20 exactly, leaving them on 221 - a tie.

So I suggest for next season, to keep it interesting, the Constructors Championship is run along the lines of Ferrari vs The Rest. Perhaps then Ferrari could be prevented from scoring a record 5th straight constructors title.

[Tomecek]

It's not nice from Ferrari, they should share remaining points with the rest equally! However, in USA will win Montoya and in Japan Räikkönen

[lukywill]

and in monza rubens

[Foxbat]

Originally posted by lukywill
and in monza rubens

I thought Rubens was with Ferrari?
Also I'm pretty sure that I watched the Italian GP being raced

I think you got the names wrong, maybe you mean Giancarlo and Suzuka? Or perhaps Nick and Indianapolis?

[lukywill]

he is? what hapened to stewart?

[mikedeering]

Originally posted by lukywill
he is? what hapened to stewart?

You don't want to know what happened to Stewart...but it involves Ford, a pile of cash and 3 years of wasted effort.

[Peeko]

I must have stumbled into a time machine this morning...

[Mrv]

Originally posted by Tomecek
It's not nice from Ferrari, they should share remaining points with the rest equally! However, in USA will win Montoya and in Japan Räikkönen

Williams best chance at victory was Monza and we all saw the pace Ferrari had. USA and Japan are going to be a Ferrari cakewalk.

[howardt]

To get half of all points awarded in the season means they would *average* 13 points per race. Given that the max score is 16, that is pretty phenomenal.
Only 4 teams have scored more than 13 points in the whole *season* so far !

[HSJ]

Originally posted by Tomecek
It's not nice from Ferrari, they should share remaining points with the rest equally! However, in USA will win Montoya and in Japan Räikkönen

I second that!

[mikedeering]

Originally posted by howardt
To get half of all points awarded in the season means they would *average* 13 points per race. Given that the max score is 16, that is pretty phenomenal.
Only 4 teams have scored more than 13 points in the whole *season* so far !

Given Rubens early season reliability problems, to even get to 13 points average is pretty phenomenal!

[Pioneer]

Prepare to watch Shumi blitz Suzuka like he did at Spa. He owns that track.

US... I predict another Rubens victory.

[heki]

In 88 the Macs got 199 pts in 16 races with the 9-points-for-win scoring system. It would be 214 points with the current system.
So close but so far for Ferrari

[Peeko]

Originally posted by heki
So close but so far for Ferrari

The record of 199 will be broken, and a new one held by Ferrari. Sure, there'll be an * beside it, but the bar will be set. Besides, there's always next year.

[mikedeering]

Originally posted by heki
In 88 the Macs got 199 pts in 16 races with the 9-points-for-win scoring system. It would be 214 points with the current system.
So close but so far for Ferrari

True, but who were the competition in 1988? McLaren had the 2 best drivers of their generation, and Honda were the only engine suppliers to bother developing a new turbo engine for 1988 - everyone else was focusing on 1989.

Today, Ferrari have Rubens as #2, who is not in the class of Prost/Senna.
The grid is arguably more competitive - there is certainly alot more manufacturer involvement now than 1988 - aside from Honda who was actually making a fully committed effort to F1? Half the grid had non-turbos which couldn't compete with the turbos. Of the turbos, you had Arrows-Megatron, which were using old BMW motors, Lotus (with a demotivated Piquet and a dog of a car) and Ferrari.

Today, BMW, Mercedes, Renault, Honda, Toyota etc are throwing millions at F1 and Ferrari is wiping the floor with them.

Also, although McLaren scored 199 in 1988, the rest of the grid together scored 201, so beat them! My argument is that Ferrari have a pretty good chance of tying the opposition at 221 each! (Obviosuly I have now cursed Ferrari and MS will retire from the next 2 races and Rubens won't even start but still...)

[heki]

Alright, alright, it wasn't meant to be a pun ;)

Yes I agree with you in most of the thing exept the last one, where you state, that the grid beat them... Using the current scoring system it would be 214 to 202 for the Macs

[Hotwheels]

Originally posted by mikedeering



Also, although McLaren scored 199 in 1988, the rest of the grid together scored 201, so beat them! My argument is that Ferrari have a pretty good chance of tying the opposition at 221 each! (Obviosuly I have now cursed Ferrari and MS will retire from the next 2 races and Rubens won't even start but still...)

I think you forgot to take the 16 / 17 race change .

After 16 races and the same point system , Ferrari would not have equal points to the grid nor would it meet the MCLARENS

[DEVO]

What's the record for number of points scored in a season by driver and by constructor?

[Estwald]

Originally posted by DEVO
What's the record for number of points scored in a season by driver and by constructor?

Record for points in a season by a driver was Michael Schumacher at 123 in 2001. It is now 128 and counting for this year.

Record for points by a constructor is 199 by McLaren in 1988, which Ferrari will surpass in the next weeks. As has been noted above, 1988 season was only 16 races and wins were worth only 9 points, so on a point per race basis, McLaren 1988 still holds the record: something for Ferrari to beat next year

[wadders]

Heynever mind what has passed. Witness today and today the reality is that Ferrari has absolutely kicked ass in an era of major car makers entering the sport. Toyota are excluded from this list because this is their first year(Actually fair dues to them for not setting ambitious goals like JAguar and BAR)!!

Ferrari have shown this year that revolution is still possible despite the strict rules. It is up to the pthers to catch them. And now for something in connection to this post - Ferrari will probably score the max from the next 2 races. So there you go. I dont care about absolute numbers but I think that this is a better achievement than Mac in 1988 but then I am BIASED. So Slay me!!!

The fact that the others had given up on the drivers and the constructors' championship as early as june is a testament to Ferrari's reliability above all because other teams do have outright pace.

[rgagne]

Originally posted by mikedeering


You don't want to know what happened to Stewart...but it involves Ford, a pile of cash and 3 years of wasted effort.

my tought exactly!!!

[Pioneer]

Originally posted by Pioneer
Prepare to watch Shumi blitz Suzuka like he did at Spa. He owns that track.

US... I predict another Rubens victory.

Ye gods I should start gambling.

[holiday]

Yeah, the way you figured out Ruby'd win in Indy - perfectly predictable - impressed me most.;)

[Pioneer]

Note the date of my original post.