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[The Sensational]

ITV won't be showing Qualifying until 1.30 today so I won't be able to see it, but this sounds absolutely massive. 6 drivers mentioned checking up on his health, and so did several team staff.

Michael Schumacher:
"Once we found out that McNish was okay, ..."

Rubens Barichello:
"After we heard that Allan was okay, ... "

David Coulthard:
"..., but I had to abandon it due to Alan's accident, and I'm pleased that he was unhurt. "

Nick Heidfeld:
"I lost my second timed lap because it was the one on which Allan McNish had his accident, but of course I´m pleased to hear that he is okay"

Jacques Villeneuve:
""That was a huge crash for McNish so I'm pleased he was OK. That's the important thing ..."

Paul Stoddart:
"First of all, we're just very pleased that Allan (McNish) is okay - that was a seriously heavy accident by any standards, and once again serves to highlight the strength of current Formula One cars"

Mika Salo:
"I am very pleased to hear that Allan is okay after his crash."


How exactly was it brought about? I don't suppose anyone has made a video of it? Was there good coverage?

[bira]

there was no footage of the actual impact, or rather of him going through the armco. At least there was none of TV. So we only got to see him snap and then the aftermath of his car outside the armco. What happened upon impact we didn't see.

[Clone]

You can find it at:
http://www.f1onboard.com/

[confucius]

Why on earth did the camera have to flicker *just* at the crucial moment!

[pRy]

His car had quite alot of air when it hit the tyre barrier which would have I guess deflected some of their absorbancy, impacting the armco with the gearbox literally ripped through it and McNish still has air in the second picture as far as I can tell, before landing.

He is lucky to have had the car spun around so the impact was rear facing, he was also lucky his car simply didn't flip upon impact. Im no sure how well the roll cage would have withstood a ground impact from height.

[Bart]

confucius say
Why on earth did the camera have to flicker *just* at the crucial moment!

Judging from some of the repair work that was going on, there is some sort of cabling for the cameras running along the armco there which took a bit of a nasty knock.

[confucius]

Yeah I assumed that must've been the case too

[Riker!]

HOLY ****!! Allan go buy a Lottery Ticket NOW!!!!!!!!! That was some crash. Glad he came out unscathed.

[maclaren]

[Williams]

A very bad accident that ended OK, thank goodness. McNish has had a very tough first (and maybe last) season in F1, and this was not a good way to start his last race of the season. I hope he can get in the car for the race, overcome this nasty shock and have a good result. He seems to be one of the really nice guys in the pitane.

I hope Toyota have learned something from this, in terms of a possible problem with their car.

[AdrianM]

Thank God Allan is okay

[Slyder]

Holy ****, man.

Massive accident. Thank god McNish is okay

Doesn' this crash remind you of Patrick Carpentier's crash at Laguna Seca I believe 3 or 4 years ago?

[Slyder]

Originally posted by Williams
I hope Toyota have learned something from this, in terms of a possible problem with their car.

mmmm, I'm not so sure about that Williams, for the look of it, McNish lost it on his own.

I could be wrong of course, but it seems to me like it was driver error.

[The Sensational]

Huge crash!

It's been a while since we've had a good one. There's a certain morbid fascination in seeing people smash the wall hard, and this certainly counts!

Good thing he's alright. Pity we didn't get a better shot of it.

[Williams]

Originally posted by Slyder


mmmm, I'm not so sure about that Williams, for the look of it, McNish lost it on his own.

I could be wrong of course, but it seems to me like it was driver error.

An assumption on my part, but he seems to have lost it pretty suddenly, which is often indicative of a mechanical failure, such as a suspension piece breaking.

Looking closer at when the whole thing started, however, it seems that he did get out of shape first, so perhaps you are correct in that it was driver error.

[KinetiK]

Originally posted by bira
there was no footage of the actual impact, or rather of him going through the armco. At least there was none of TV. So we only got to see him snap and then the aftermath of his car outside the armco. What happened upon impact we didn't see.

It's "atlas-dotted" now, the account is currently disabled. Anyone with ftp space for the .avi?

[Viktor]

Here is my capture
http://w1.877.telia....7704/suzuka.avi (6.6 Mb 44 sec Divx 5)

/Viktor

[BARnone]

Thanks Viktor.

That was some crash.

BARnone.

[Nikolas Garth]

Originally posted by KinetiK


It's "atlas-dotted" now,

A variation of sorts on "slash-dotted"?

[Cypher]

Originally posted by Slyder
Doesn' this crash remind you of Patrick Carpentier's crash at Laguna Seca I believe 3 or 4 years ago?

It does a bit. Also reminds me of Zonta's testing crash at Silverstone as it was at a similar speed, I think. Zonta's suspension fails under braking into Stowe, he bounces off the tyre-wall, goes high over the fence and lands upside down on the other side. He only hurt his thumb, if I remember right.

http://www.f1crashes...k/britain06.jpg

[The Sensational]

Originally posted by Cypher


It does a bit. Also reminds me of Zonta's testing crash at Silverstone as it was at a similar speed, I think. Zonta's suspension fails under braking into Stowe, he bounces off the tyre-wall, goes high over the fence and lands upside down on the other side. He only hurt his thumb, if I remember right.

http://www.f1crashes...k/britain06.jpg

Yes that was a MASSIVE crash but Zonta's was actually worse. He flipped over the 11 foot barriers around the track if I remember correctl.

[baddog]

well, the fact he is unscathed seems to indicate the drivers concerns about the safety of the corner arent really warranted. the car and barrier did their jobs well

Shaun

[Fastcar]

Originally posted by The Sensational


Yes that was a MASSIVE crash but Zonta's was actually worse. He flipped over the 11 foot barriers around the track if I remember correctl.

He was bounced up into the air actually I would rather that than McNish's going straight through the barrier !!

[Witt]

That was a huge crash!

I would have thought that motorsport authorities would have learned after Greg Moore's accident, that the combination of grass/tarmac/grass is a death trap. Alan McNish's car could so easily have flipped had it hit the patch of grass after the patch of tarmac ala Greg Moore's crash. Thankfully it didn't.

[confucius]

Well there's been another massive accident at Suzuka. Not a good year for the racetrack.

Serious crash ahead of Japanese Grand Prix 13 Oct 2002


Suzuka witnessed its second serious accident in as many days on Sunday when Japanese driver Hirokazu Nagaya suffered an horrendous crash in a race preceding the season-closing Formula One™ Grand Prix.
The 22-year-old, who this year has been racing in Japan's Formula Three series, clipped the tyres of a car in front of him around the Suzuka circuit's Spoon Corner, sending him somersaulting through the air and into the fence.

A track-side camera showed wreckage flying towards it as the car tumbled through the air, but then went off air.

An ambulance rushed to the scene and white sheets were quickly erected around the crash site. Race stewards said Nagaya was unconscious and had been airlifted to hospital by helicopter. It was not immediately clear if anyone else was injured in the crash.

Nagaya had been making a guest appearance in the ninth of the 11-race Formula Dream series, which he competed in last year.


Shortly afterwards Stewards announced that the race had been cancelled to prevent any delay in the start to the Formula One Grand Prix, due to begin at 0530 GMT.

Nagaya's accident follows that of Toyota's Allan McNish in Saturday's qualifying session for the Japanese Grand Prix. The Scot was unhurt apart from a bruised knee.

SOURCE: AFP


formula1.com

[Mila]

I haven't seen a statement from the team as to the cause, but there seemed to be (oil?) puffs of smoke from the back of AM's Toyota after passing the apex of 130R. inconclusive though, since, if he had flubbed it--and had been off-line--it may have been dust from the unused part of the track.

[Darrenj]

riginally posted by Viiktor
Here is my capture
http://w1.877.telia....7704/suzuka.avi (6.6 Mb 44 sec Divx 5)

/Viktor

Tack Viktor, otroligt!!!!!!!
vad kostar din digital sändning ??????????

[Mellon]

I can't get that avi to play, but they showed it in the Finnish broadcast. It was an absolutelly massive accident. The car did somersault rear over front a number of times and went clean way over the armco, taking the roof off a small camera tower, luckily stopping in some catch-fencing without flipping over it. The cameraman was very lucky to apparently avoid getting hit by anything heavy. McNish's accident was small compared to this.