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[confucius]

Its just a small question that could probably be answered with one post, but I didn't know where else to post or find the answer.

I've heard that the Ferrari crest is referred to by different names depending on whether its on a Ferrari race car or if its on a road car....a Scudetto if its on a race car and a Cavalino on a road car? Is that correct? Why do they do this? Or what do the words mean anything in English?

[DOHC]

Scudetto = [small] shield, as in a coat of arms

Cavallino = horse

[Wilderness_AT]

cavallino=little horse (cavallo means horse).

[CONOSUR]

Wilderness is correct.

Their is a badge, which is the rectangular emblem used on the front of all Ferraris, whether street or race.

The shield, or Scudetto, is the emblem of the race team (Scuderia) and adorns the sides all race cars.

Both the badge and shield sport a cavallino in their designs.

Of late, because of the massive marketing power of the shield (Scudetto), and the racing heritage imbued in the road cars, the Scudetto has begun showing up (usually in enamel from) on street Ferraris.

[Elspeth]

As a bit of trivial info, the prancing horse design was given to Enzo by the parents of WWI ace Baracca, who used it as a symbol on his plane. Also, Enzo's brother was in the same squadron with Baracca.

[30ft penguin]

... which leads to the usual discussion about where that fighter pilot had that design from. Some stories lead to the German city of Stuttgart, which has the "prancing horse" in its crest:



... which in turn explains why car manufacturer Porsche, located in Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen, has that prancing horse in its emblem, too:



not quite the same, but similar to the Ferrari logo:



I guess this has been discussed in several threads in the past, but AFAIK nobody has yet presented any official explanation by Ferrari.

[Elspeth]

I have tried in the past to find out why Baracca used the horse, but have been unsuccessful. I can't read Italian which hinders me. I doubt that an Italian pilot would use a symbol from a German city (Stuttgart) so I think there must be another explanation.

[ensign14]

The story goes that in November 1916 Baracca shot down a plot from Stuttgart and adopted the emblem the pilot was carrying for his squadron (not just Baracca's own personal emblem). There is also something to support the contention that Enzo's brother rather than the Baraccas suggested Enzo use the Prancing Horse; Ferrari always claimed he was 'awarded' it in the early 20s, but it did not appear on his cars for another few years.

[confucius]

Thanks for the info guys...the history about where the emblem came from is quite interesting actually.

So the BADGE has no special name "assigned" to it, only the shield?

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by confucius
Thanks for the info guys...the history about where the emblem came from is quite interesting actually.

So the BADGE has no special name "assigned" to it, only the shield?

I've found this fasinating, even as a Human Shield didn't know about the badge and shield, I didn't know all the details of Ferrari, I just always liked Ferrari without knowing everything, f1 has made me know Ferrari more.

[CONOSUR]

In addition, the shield also has the letters S and F, which stand for Scuderia Ferrari, or Team Ferrari. These Scudettos were first used on Alfa Romeos by Enzo when he ran Alfa's race team. So, the Scudetto predates Ferrari's road cars, which were built and sold purely as a means to fund his racing activities.

[KenC]

Originally posted by CONOSUR
In addition, the shield also has the letters S and F, which stand for Scuderia Ferrari, or Team Ferrari. These Scudettos were first used on Alfa Romeos by Enzo when he ran Alfa's race team. So, the Scudetto predates Ferrari's road cars, which were built and sold purely as a means to fund his racing activities.

One could say they still are, considering Schumi has taken more dosh home over his last 7 years, than Ferrari has. (ok, I haven't really checked this, but I'm willing to wager it's true!)

[CONOSUR]

Originally posted by KenC


One could say they still are, considering Schumi has taken more dosh home over his last 7 years, than Ferrari has. (ok, I haven't really checked this, but I'm willing to wager it's true!)

[Scudetto]

Someone calling me? Oh, never mind.

[CONOSUR]

...Wonderin' when you'd pipe up.

[Ray Bell]

Just to add a little trivia...

When Ferrari split with Alfa Romeo, whose cars he had been running for years, he agreed not to call any cars by his own name (which was inextricably linked to Alfa because of all those years together) for a period of time, five or six years, I believe.

His first cars, then, were called by another name... which escapes me at the moment, but was mentioned on TNF only today or yesterday.

Those cars were built in 1940... the next few years were good years for that ban to remain in force. Not only that, Ferrari's workshop had (presumably lucrative) machining work to do during the conflict of that era, building up his budget for the commencement of racing in the wake of the war.

[dai_ferrari]

The correct name for the "shield" or "badge" is "scudo.

The first time it was ever used was on July 9th, 1932 at the 24 hours of SPA in Belgium, on the side of an Alfa Romeo 2300 8C.

[CONOSUR]

Originally posted by dai_ferrari
The correct name for the "shield" or "badge" is "scudo.

The first time it was ever used was on July 9th, 1932 at the 24 hours of SPA in Belgium, on the side of an Alfa Romeo 2300 8C.

Thanks. I think that car would be the same one that Schumi drove at Indy.