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#151 Mischa Bijenhof

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Posted 03 July 2006 - 19:03

You may have already seen this, but interesting nonetheless:

http://www.autosovie...sse-formula.htm

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#152 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 05:39

Nevskoe Koltso has been closed down...

1961:

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1976:

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#153 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 06:56

I have added the 1982 section to my web site, including English and Czech season reviews.

#154 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 13:55

The 1983 results are added, including season reviews in English and in Czech.

#155 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 18:34

A very useful link to the Latvian motor sport history (from 1980 onwards) web site: http://www.racinghistory.lv. Its author - Kaspars Dziedatajs from Riga - has visited racing events at Bikernieki circuit since he was a child and has collected a great archive of results and photos. The web site started only two weeks ago, thus it is not yet containing much info. The site is in Latvian but the tables of results and the photo galleries are quite comprehensible anyway. As we co-operate with each other, much info there duplicate what is on my web site - and vice versa :)

#156 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 18:13

5th anniversary of my web site today! :clap:

What I started with on June 30, 2003: very scrappy data on the 1961 and 1962.

What I have today, June 30, 2008: the race results from 1959 to 1989 inclusive (more or less full), three cars sections (single-seaters, sportscars, and record cars), the tracks section, and the drivers section (with the only driver biography now). Of course, it's not only the merit of mine - many people from Russia, Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Czech Republic, Poland, Sweden, United Kingdom etc. have helped me. I thank them all - both TNF'ers and non-TNF'ers. Much work have been done, but even more is still to be done.

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 20:20

Alexey, many thanks for everything! is there any intention to turn your work into a book? It's such an alien field of motorsport for me at any rate, like discovering a brand new continent or something. :)

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 20:30

Yes, it's wonderful! :up: Wish I could read it, too! :(

EDIT: I mean, apart from the "brief reviews", that is!

#159 Rob Semmeling

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 20:41

Having recently stumbled upon this thread and then Alexey's website, I second everything Michael said!

The section on the Soviet racing circuits looks brilliant in particular, I just wish I were able to make more sense of it! But this kind of work should be applauded in any case, so well done!

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#160 Flat Black

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 21:23

Well this thread has been a revelation! I did my graduate work in Russian history (the Tatar Yoke admittedly), and had never once encountered any mention of auto racing the the Sietskii Siouz. Blimey.

#161 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 19:20

Originally posted by ensign14
Alexey, many thanks for everything! is there any intention to turn your work into a book? It's such an alien field of motorsport for me at any rate, like discovering a brand new continent or something. :)

Of course, there are some thoughts like this: yes, it would be great to turn all what I know about the Soviet racing in a book but... First, to get a basis for a book I need to have an exhaustive overall picture of the history of Soviet racing, so that I could work out the well-balanced point of view on it (combining the point of view of contemporary people and the one of a present-day researcher). By now, I haven't compiled such a picture yet - not all the seasons have been explored etc. Second, to illustrate a book one need to own a copyright on the photos - and I don't have any. Third, to publish a book one need to have ties and acquaintancies with publishers. On the F1 Archive Forum, run by Vladimir Kovalenko, all this was discussed in details, and the conclusion was that it's almost impossible to publish a good motor sport book in Russia. As for me, I'd rather publish the results of my research on the Internet where I'm free in managing my web pages, illustrating them with photos taken by my friends and colleagues with informal permissions from them, and people who is interested in my web site is free in contacting with me. I'd rather give up to historic research than to publishing rat race :cool:

#162 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 22:13

Originally posted by Rainer Nyberg
Valentin Kozenkov in his self-built Formula Junior, based on Moskvitch parts. Picture taken in Leningrad, 1962.

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
The first photo is an obscure matter. The "self-built Formula Junior, based on Moskvitch parts" designed and built by Kosenkov (whose name was Vyacheslav, not Valentin), must be KVN 1300G, but the car on the photo doesn't look like 1300G.

Rainer's three-year-old riddle has been solved finally! This single-seater (unfortunately the original photo is not available any more) is the Kiev 1 by Ukrainian amateur racing driver and designer Anatoly Argentov. It appeared in 1962, and most probably it was its only racing season.

#163 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:41

Two photos from the 1969, the most curious season of Soviet Formula 1 (both from Viktor Shavelev's personal archive). National F1 didn't have any engine volume limit that year and so it was a unique motley collection of cars: from the 1-litre Wartburg-powered Estonia 9 to the 7-litre ZIL 112S sportscar.

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Round 4, Nevskoe Koltso (the Neva Ring), Leningrad

4 Madis Laiv, Estonia 14 (2445 ccm)
11 Viktor Shavelev, Moskvich G5 (1478 ccm)
21 Vadim Rzhechitsky, Moskvich G5
65 Yuri Andreev, Estonia 9 (992 ccm)
5 Vladimir Glurdzhidze, self-built (2445 ccm)
7 Klementi Tabidze, self-built (2445 ccm)
37 Stanislav Fomichev, self-built (2445 ccm)
38 Vladimir Novozhilov, GA 22 (2445 ccm)
13 Nikolay Shevchenko, Moskvich G4M (1478 ccm)
82 Valentin Bogatov, ZIL 112S (6959 ccm)
34 Yuri Frolov, Hange Special (2445 ccm)
27 Valentin Ferfarov, self-built (2445 ccm)

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Round 1, Borovaya, Minsk

Bogatov leads the race in his ZIL, Laiv is just behind him, two Moskviches of Shavelev and Rzhechitsky follow them. Then goes a mix of self-built Volga-powered cars of drivers from Leningrad and Tbilisi with a lonely Yunost (Youth) with the 1.2-litre air-cooled MeMZ engine among them, the last car is Shevchenko's Moskvich.

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Posted 14 February 2009 - 10:47

:up: :up: :up:

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 06:40

A minor point, perhaps, but one which should easily be cleared up by those in the know...
It took me a while to realise that 'ASK' was not a prolific Russian manufacturer, but in fact meant 'self-built car' or something similar
But can someone please tell me what the initials actually stand for?

#166 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 07:41

"Автомобиль собственной конструкции" ("Avtomobil sobstvennoy konstruktsii") - "a self-built car". This abbreviation seems to be invented by the famous Russian automobile and motor sport historian Lev M. Shugurov and appeared in his book "Soviet motor sport" (published in 1976) for the first time. Starting working at my web site in 2003, I thought it would be useful, so I have inserted it from then on for any self-built cars which didn't have any definitive name or index.

#167 David McKinney

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 09:12

Thanks very much Alexey
I'd worked out the 'avtomobil' and guessed 'sobtvenny' :)
I didn't realise though that the application was so recent - what were ASK cars called before then? Just named after their engines?

#168 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 14:59

Most often they were named after their drivers, for instance: Yuri Vishnyakov's car, Viktor Lapin's car etc. If a group of cars of the same class was mentioned, they were usually named after their engines collectively: "racing Volgas" or "racing Wartburgs" - since there were very few engine types suitable for racing, and, as a rule, there was only one type for each class.

#169 David McKinney

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 16:01

Thanks again Alexey
My knowledge increases daily :smoking:

#170 Suhovsky

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 17:35

Леш, кое что сохранилось со времен "Чайки". Если что - обращайся.

#171 fines

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 19:52

Yes.

Now, what was it that you said, exactly? :D :drunk:

#172 Alexander M

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 15:02

Alexey, thank you for those magnificent pictures!

#173 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 08:41

My web site has got its own domain name: http://www.ussr-autosport.ru. Welcome! :)

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 19:48

I started to scan my old negatives.
Here is the first to this topic, 50% Soviet - 50% Czech.....:)

Czechoslovakia, Havirov 19th May 1974
Spider Roots with 1478cc Moskvich M412 engine, Czech driver - Jan Gaidusch

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left - start No.1. Karel Jilek with the 1998cc BMW powered MTX 2-01
Jilek finished 3rd, Gaidusch 8th

#175 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 20:59

The Moskvich-powered spider - it's unthinkable! :eek: Excellent photo :up:

#176 ferdi

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 01:05

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 21:00

Schleiz, mid 70s....

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#178 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 21:12

The best photo of Vladislav Barkovsky's BPS-Estonia in its 1976 version that I've ever seen :up: !!!

Car no. 69 in the background is Madis Laiv's Estonia 18M, no. 71 is probably Raul Sarap.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 21:36

Thanks Alexey!

I do not have notes on many of my old negatives.
Now, I wrote 1976 to this....

Are there any available start-list, results Schleiz-76 on the Net ?

http://www.fotocommu...isplay/15887715

http://www.fotocommu...isplay/15856632

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#180 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 21:47

http://www.puru.de/d...assic2.html#r2c

BTW, it would be better to post the pics from the Cup of Peace and Friendship to this thread: http://forums.autosp...&threadid=60164 :wave:

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 06:35

In the background is No. 70 Jukk Reintam

#182 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 06:58

Yes, I was wrong, it's 70 indeed. The last Reintam's race...

#183 ferdi

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 07:43

Interesting...
Both Barkovsky and Reintam are noted as "Unfall":

" tödl. Unfall Reintam,Jukk UdSSR Estonia 18M
schw. Unfall Barkovski,Vladislav UdSSR Estonia 18M "
http://www.puru.de/d...assic2.html#r2c

#184 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 08:02

"tödl. Unfall" is "fatal accident" but I have no idea about "schw. Unfall". I looked at the dictionary - there are so many words in German beginning with "schw.".. :drunk:

#185 David McKinney

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 09:02

schw. would probably be schwer.., "serious"

#186 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 20:31

It's very likely... Any comments from our German friends? :)

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 21:03

David is right. "Schw. Unfall" means "Schwerer Unfall" = "serious accident".

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 12:05

Hadi-10

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 14:18

Whence??? :eek:

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 14:43

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
Whence??? :eek:

From Hungarian magazine "Autó Motor".
My uncle worked as journalist, I have a large collection of his photos - old paper-prints, original slides, negatives....
Probably this shot came as paper-print from one of the Soviet news agencies(APN,TASS,Novosty...?) in 1975.

#191 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 14:54

Was this photo accompanied by any article or at least short caption?

The HADI 10 is one of the most obscure Soviet racing cars. All what I have are three black-and-white photos, including yours. No technical data, no race results. I even don't know what engine it was equipped with!

#192 ferdi

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 15:05

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
Was this photo accompanied by any article or at least short caption?

That photo was the back-cover of the 1975-2 Autó-Motor magazine.
My uncle remembers it was a photo series in A4 size, interview with the engineers. Somewhere I have these paper-prints....
Probably you can order(buy) good quality, high-res scans from the original negatives in their archives in Moskva.

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 15:57

Tartu-2
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 16:02

1963 Leningrad
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Any info about this race ?

" FORMA JUNIOR in the Sovietunion "
It was the title of an article in the 7th February 1963 Automobill Revue, author Stig Björklund.
Has anybody that magazine ?

#195 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 16:13

Originally posted by ferdi
1963 Leningrad
Any info about this race ?

Not 1963 but 1962...

Race results: http://www.ussr-auto...ernational.html

Photos: http://www.racinghis...alva/index.html

Thread about the Škoda sportscars racing in Leningrad: http://forums.autosp...&threadid=56114

#196 ferdi

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 16:31

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
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Not 1963 but 1962...

This article was published in March 1963....maybe the report about the 1962 race ?

Anatoliy Argentov(aircraft mechanic from Kiev)
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constructeur - V. Kozenkov

Heinz Melkus(at right)
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and a really interesting photo(for me)
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#197 Alexander M

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 19:30

ferdi, many thanks for your great contributions! Most of the pictures are new for me.

To my knowledge, Anatoliy Argentov's car in your last post should be called Kiev-1 and have a Moskvitch-407 engine within. It is just a second picture of this car I see in my life. The first one is here:
http://www.racinghis...nats/index.html (see the last picture in album)
The car in a background of that same photo in your post looks like another Kozenkov's construction - KVN 1300G with the same Moskvitch-407 unit. Although I don't know who is at the wheel.


Do you know anything about Hungarian sportscars racing in 1950s-1960s? Did such a category exist? Have any interesting cars been made?

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 08:54

@ Alexey,

How surprised I was to find out about some sort of F1-Championship in the former USSR... Wow, that was new for me.

Ever looking for new and more info, I wonder if anybody can give me a hint where to look for more information about the drivers, the races, the cars, qualifying times, results and more and so... Having read about ½ of the thread by now, I sadly don't seem to find what I am looking for, though it is VERY interesting.

Any way, I try to look for it, if anyone nows somthing, please tell me. :love: Or by PM. :up:

#199 David McKinney

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 09:55

EvDelft

Go back through the thread - there are several useful links

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:37

I will, and I will extract every bit of info I can find. :D

Tnx.