Just bought the game and have found it incredibly hard. On novice trainer I think I can handle it, even on advanced trainer, but on grand prix accelerating in a straight line becomes impossibe! Im using a joystick, and was wondering wether its possible to get good at it with a joystick.... or do I need a steering wheel and pedals. mm. Any tips?
Grand prix legends question
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Jdcasas
, Jan 27 2003 16:43
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MaxScelerate
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Posted 27 January 2003 - 17:20
lol.. I feel your pain!;)
Actually, it's quite possible to play with a joystick, and many people have made times much better than mine using these. But a wheel is a must, as you can apply brakes and throttle individually (ie, rev you motor a bit while still braking, stuff like that.) And the precision's better since a 270 degre wheel offers much more room for little corrections.
But cry not, there are still a few things you can check on. First to boot would be the Steering Linearity. When you use a wheel, you set it to almost fully linear (ie, 10 degre on your wheel +/- equal 10 degre in the game), while using a joystick or keyboard, you'd set it at fully non-linear (so that small corrections near the center don't impact as much. (btw, full linear is left while non-linear is right on that bracket).
You'll need to learn to slowly apply the power so as not to burn too much rubber, but that should come in time.
Actually, it's quite possible to play with a joystick, and many people have made times much better than mine using these. But a wheel is a must, as you can apply brakes and throttle individually (ie, rev you motor a bit while still braking, stuff like that.) And the precision's better since a 270 degre wheel offers much more room for little corrections.
But cry not, there are still a few things you can check on. First to boot would be the Steering Linearity. When you use a wheel, you set it to almost fully linear (ie, 10 degre on your wheel +/- equal 10 degre in the game), while using a joystick or keyboard, you'd set it at fully non-linear (so that small corrections near the center don't impact as much. (btw, full linear is left while non-linear is right on that bracket).
You'll need to learn to slowly apply the power so as not to burn too much rubber, but that should come in time.
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Posted 27 January 2003 - 17:42
Jdcases - keeping it in a straight line with a wheel can be hard too! Finess with the throttle pedal is important.
BTW, what OS do you use? I have a Microsoft wheel and pedals that I will sell, cheaply. However, it doesn't seem to work in XP.
Mark
BTW, what OS do you use? I have a Microsoft wheel and pedals that I will sell, cheaply. However, it doesn't seem to work in XP.
Mark
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Posted 27 January 2003 - 17:49
Originally posted by Jdcasas
Im using a joystick, and was wondering wether its possible to get good at it with a joystick.... or do I need a steering wheel and pedals. mm. Any tips?
I'm using a joystick, and it IS possible to get pretty reasonable with a joystick. I use a high steering ratio (18:1 or 17:1) and i use the linear - nonlinear slider in options at about the middle.
When using a joystick, try to use as little turn on the axis when steering, as it is easy to "unsettle" the car because it's quite sensitive on the steering. Also, try the BB at www.racesimcentral.com where there are a great GPL forum where you can get all sorts of help...
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Posted 28 January 2003 - 02:09
Originally posted by Jdcasas
Just bought the game and have found it incredibly hard. On novice trainer I think I can handle it, even on advanced trainer, but on grand prix accelerating in a straight line becomes impossibe! Im using a joystick, and was wondering wether its possible to get good at it with a joystick.... or do I need a steering wheel and pedals. mm. Any tips?
Have you installed the many patches? as released the game is undriveable, patched and tweaked it becomes a different and wonderful experience. There is a GREAT thread here (do a search) that tells you everything you could ever need to know about the game
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Jdcasas
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Posted 28 January 2003 - 14:24
Thank you for the replies. Im using windows 98... I`m not sure if the game is patched, bought it for a fiver as a re-release from that company called "sold out". It says its patched on the box, but at the start of the game it says version 1.000 :
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Posted 28 January 2003 - 14:36
Jdcasas, I have no doubt that all the prementioned solutions are suitable, but I would suggest you should reconsider buying a wheel...
This of course depends on two or three things.
Firstly, if you are a simracing lover, then you will get 400% more satisfaction taming the game with a wheel (and pedals of course). Realism is beyond imagination in GPL.
If you're not a hardcore simracing fan, but spending a bit more than $100 is no big deal for you, then you can buy some very decent wheels, which will not only suit for GPL, but for most of your gaming needs (for racing games that is).
My vote is go for a wheel. MS or Logitech wheels are the best for their money I think.
The decision though, is yours ;)
This of course depends on two or three things.
Firstly, if you are a simracing lover, then you will get 400% more satisfaction taming the game with a wheel (and pedals of course). Realism is beyond imagination in GPL.
If you're not a hardcore simracing fan, but spending a bit more than $100 is no big deal for you, then you can buy some very decent wheels, which will not only suit for GPL, but for most of your gaming needs (for racing games that is).
My vote is go for a wheel. MS or Logitech wheels are the best for their money I think.
The decision though, is yours ;)
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Posted 28 January 2003 - 19:47
Originally posted by Jdcasas
Thank you for the replies. Im using windows 98... I`m not sure if the game is patched, bought it for a fiver as a re-release from that company called "sold out". It says its patched on the box, but at the start of the game it says version 1.000 :
thats not patched.. you definitely need to be running 1.2, probably plus the patches for video etc so you actually get some use out of your video card. Maybe one of our experts can point you to some files?
Shaun
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Posted 29 January 2003 - 15:12
I have that version Jdcasas - the patch is on the disk, but needs to be installed seperately, it's not included when you install the game. Happy crashing! Even with the patches and a wheel it only takes the slightest lapse in concentration and you're off. 
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Posted 29 January 2003 - 20:31
great SIM not a game learning is tuff
take about a year to be fast
but fun
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Posted 01 February 2003 - 13:36
One way to speed up the learning curve is to junk the standard car settings and make the car a little easier to drive.
I can't remember the link, but if you type "eaglewoman" and "grand prix legends" into a search engine you should get to Alison Hine's page.
She has a bunch of set ups which are a vast improvement on the ones that come with the game. I knocked two seconds off my best time at Watkins Glen almost instantly with her Ferrari set up. Less convinced by the BRM one, but the Brabham and Honda set ups are worth a dabble.
I can't remember now - its been ages since I played the game, but I think the trick lay in raising the ride heights - a very counterintuitive way to improve the handling of an F1 car but it seems to work
I can't remember the link, but if you type "eaglewoman" and "grand prix legends" into a search engine you should get to Alison Hine's page.
She has a bunch of set ups which are a vast improvement on the ones that come with the game. I knocked two seconds off my best time at Watkins Glen almost instantly with her Ferrari set up. Less convinced by the BRM one, but the Brabham and Honda set ups are worth a dabble.
I can't remember now - its been ages since I played the game, but I think the trick lay in raising the ride heights - a very counterintuitive way to improve the handling of an F1 car but it seems to work
