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Poll: Australian GP - Adelaide or Melbourne? (60 member(s) have cast votes)

  1. Adelaide (40 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. Melbourne (20 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

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#1 AdrianM

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 11:35

I was reading an article by Eoin Young:
http://www.pitpass.c...esid=526&page=1
and he says this in the third paragraph:

Now we move half a world away in the same lower hemisphere to Adelaide, the city I always regard as the true and rightful home of the Grand Prix, a city that was in love with the formula 1 circus. Half of the people in Melbourne don't know the race is on and the other half knows it's on but doesn't give a toss. The Buck doesn't go to Melbourne but he loved the race in Adelaide.




I was just wondering which circuit you would prefer to see stage the Australian GP in terms of circuit design, atmosphere etc especially those who have been to both

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#2 The Kanisteri

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 11:40

I voted for Melbourne. In my opinion it's more safer than Adelaide.

I remember pretty good when Mika Häkkinen was injured at there - despite the cars weren't so safe than nowadays. :|

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 12:00

Adelaide - with out a doubt!

Having been to both, I have to say that vibe in Adelaide throughout race week was far better than Melbourne. I would have thought that the fast straights in Adelaide would give better overtaking opportunities for todays cars.

#4 Claudius

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 12:08

I'd pick Adelaide.
No question.

A real street circuit wich also had a great straight to allow overtakings.

#5 Sir Frank

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 12:11

Check out the article by Ann Bradshaw, very nice memories of Adelaide :up: http://www.atlasf1.c...s/bradshaw.html

I think Adelaide was better, that was a proper street circuit.

#6 mikedeering

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 12:29

Adelaide - scene of 2 excellent drives from Rosberg in 1985/86, a fantastic 1986 race in general that gave Prost the WDC, Piquet's 1990 win, Senna's last win in 1993, Mansell's last win in 1994 etc.

OK, 1995 was boring (Hill won by 2 laps IIRC!) and the 1989/91 races were a nightmare, but on the whole excellent racing. But them Melbourne has had some good races too - 1996, 1997, 1999, 2002 and 2003 standing out.

I will go with Adelaide though - but its a close call!

#7 MinardiRules

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 12:29

Originally posted by Sir Frank
I think Adelaide was better, that was a proper street circuit.


Agreed. There's not much wrong with the Melbourne circuit, but I miss Adelaide.

#8 Flying Panda

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 12:53

Keep the GP venues are they are - Melbourne and Surfers Paraside :smoking:

#9 Nasty McBastard

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 12:59

ive actually been to races in adelaide(and one of those times was in 91, but i wont hold that against the place)...more than i can say for melbourne....

BUT, having said that, from a tv point of view, or even just a 'whats more interesting circuit wise' view, i like melbourne....

mind you, there was something about having the last race of the year.

we could of done worse that having the first race though.... sometimes i imagine (wouldnt know personally) that some gp's in the middle of the year must get 'lost' a bit regarding buildup etc.

adelaide and melbourne have had a buzz about them..either coz its the last or the first race.

#10 troyf1

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 12:59

I like Melbourne but I do miss Adelaide.

#11 CLX

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 13:02

Why not have both, with Melbourne as the season opener and Adelaide as the season ender? They could have Adelaide replacing Spa, A1 Ring or Imola.

Anyhow, I loved the race at Adelaide, it's the best street circuit ever, IMO.

#12 BRG

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 13:37

I preferred Adelaide - I have never really warmed to Albert Park.

Mind you, I am not sure that anywhere where they serve "Pie Floaters" should be allowed to have a GP.....;)

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 13:47

As a resident of the former GP city, I wish Adelaide still had the race just to make this place interesting again. I loved the build up to the race, walking down Rundle Mall and seeing the walkovers and track fences going up down Rundle Road in the distance, the atmosphere was electric. I think the fact that Adelaide is a smaller city also made the GP a larger event, we had street parties when it was on, something I haven't noticed in Melbourne.

Having said that, the event in Melbourne is great too, I like the Albert Park track and, as ever, it is just as well organised as it was when it first came to Australia in 1985.

Personally though, I pick Adelaide, I think it was a great and challenging track, from the 90 degree turns around East Terrace to the long bumpy straight of Dequiteville Tce (Brabham Straight).

In the end I'm just glad Australia has a race.

#14 Paul McLucas

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 14:01

Adelaide for sure. Last race was better also.

Melbourne is a much bigger city and the GP gets a bit lost, in Adelaide it took over. I really loved going to Adelaide, Melboune is a bit of a chore.

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#15 gerry nassar

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 14:44

Ive got nothing against Adelaide but I live in Melbourne so Id say Melbourne! :drunk:

I agree that Melb is a bigger city so you dont feel that it has been taken over by F1 like Adelaide - but F1 needs greater international exposure these days and Melbourne provides that.

Also alot of people are using nostalgia to make their choice - ie the good ol days with racers like Prost, Mansell and Senna. There is nothing wrong with that offcourse.

Personally Id prefer the first race - with all the build up and anticipation. The Last race is basically a gamble and becomes insignificant if the championship doesnt go down to the wire.

I do however wish i saw an Adelaide GP live.

#16 molive

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 14:55

Where is the both option?

Aussie :up:

#17 philhitchings

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 15:03

Originally posted by CLX
Why not have both, with Melbourne as the season opener and Adelaide as the season ender? They could have Adelaide replacing Spa, A1 Ring or Imola.

Anyhow, I loved the race at Adelaide, it's the best street circuit ever, IMO.


Why not? (Oh yeah I forgot: Bernie :mad: he has to further globalise the appeal of the most popular sport in the world)

#18 gerry nassar

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 15:20

Originally posted by molive
Where is the both option?

Aussie :up:


I like Interlagos!

Brazil :up:

#19 SeanValen

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 15:53

Adelaide.

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#20 CONOSUR

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 16:06

Put the Albert Park Circuit in Adelaide, and then I'd vote for a return. Otherwise, Melbourne. For me it's the track that makes the diffference.




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#21 molive

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 17:06

I always thought that C^ART should have taken Adelaide, and do a double header with Surfers. It makes sense, to get a better return for their travelling bucks.

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 17:47

Adelaide as long as it's the full version not the sprint circuit or whatever they run now.

#23 Captain Cranckcase

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 18:55

I went to the Adelaide race 6 times when I lived there and I've been to Silverstone 3 times and Adelaide was way better (guess that isn't hard though). Personally I think Malaysia should be dumped and F1 start with a Melbourne, Adelaide double header.

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 23:40

i don't wanna hate on adelaide or sound elitist but in terms of atmosphere melbourne is far and away the best city in australia. the nightlife, the variety and standard of bars/clubs/restaurants/cafes is this town is simply phenomenal. adelaide doesn't really have that.

i do agree that melbourne because of its size would not be seen as being entirely consumed by the grand prix - but that said there are a helluva lot of passionate fans here and there are lots of displays in the city during race week - the main street of the city is completely closed on at least one occasion. in the inner city, which i assume is what people are talking about as opposed to the outer suburbs 50km away, you fall over tourists and team members and people swathed in merchandise. the atmosphere definitely gives me a huge buzz.

circuit-wise - i'm curious as to why people don't like the albert park circuit?

#25 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 00:25

Adelaide was better, for sure... because it's small enough to let the GP overpower it.

Something like Tasmania when Longford was on... but glitzier.

But don't expect me to turn up again till it's at Bathurst... or back at Lobethal...

#26 gerry nassar

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 00:30

If the GP was held at Melbourne between 85 and 95 - everyone would be saying how it was better in Melbourne. Its all perception and fond memories.

#27 SeanValen

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 02:01

Originally posted by gerry nassar
If the GP was held at Melbourne between 85 and 95 - everyone would be saying how it was better in Melbourne. Its all perception and fond memories.


:smoking:
Agreed, but we must also consider some fans are just objectively expressing what track is better for f1, and overtaking and all that. Perception and fond memories, the mere icing on a big Adelaide this was a great track cake. :smoking:

#28 Racer Joe

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 04:15

Originally posted by gerry nassar
Ive got nothing against Adelaide but I live in Melbourne so Id say Melbourne! :drunk:

I agree that Melb is a bigger city so you dont feel that it has been taken over by F1 like Adelaide - but F1 needs greater international exposure these days and Melbourne provides that.

Also alot of people are using nostalgia to make their choice - ie the good ol days with racers like Prost, Mansell and Senna. There is nothing wrong with that offcourse.

Personally Id prefer the first race - with all the build up and anticipation. The Last race is basically a gamble and becomes insignificant if the championship doesnt go down to the wire.

I do however wish i saw an Adelaide GP live.


:up:

I agree with all of that.

I have been to the last GP at Adelaide and every Melb GP between 1996 to 2001. I always felt that to keep the GP it has to be moved to a big city.