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[swaction]

"Ten screens the championship race from Sepang, Malaysia. Niel Crompton will be in the Ten studios, with commentary from Britain's ITV team." - Herald Sun.

Just thought this might rate a mention.

-M

[Nikolas Garth]

If you weren't a goat, I'd kiss you.

[Greg Locock]

Hooray. The Ten commentary at Melbourne was just plain embarrassing.

[TailHappy]

If you were a goat I'd kiss you.

[squiggle bob]

did i ever tell you, i LOVE to eat grass..

[swaction]

Don't be fooled by the goat -

[confucius]

Yeah it was irritating how Neil and er...Bill (?) kept interrupting each other. They were pretty boring too. Gimme Martin anyday (his commentary that is).

By the way, I don't think its gonna be televised live on Foxtel

[Mat]

Give it a rest will ya. Does it really matter who does the commentary? Have a look at other threads on this BB, there are brits complaining about their commentators and not getting live qual. Just be thankful for what you've got!

For their first time, I thought Woods and Crompton did a great job! If they followed the circus around for all 16 races I would be very happy to listen to them all year and not worry about James and Martin.

Some of you people need to learn to be a little less anal and actually enjoy what you've been given on occassion.

[Nikolas Garth]

Originally posted by Nikolas Garth
If you weren't a goat, I'd kiss you.

Originally posted by TailHappy
If you were a goat I'd kiss you.

Well it looks like one way or the other, swaction is in line for some lubbing.

[Daemon]

Originally posted by Mat

For their first time, I thought Woods and Crompton did a great job! If they followed the circus around for all 16 races I would be very happy to listen to them all year and not worry about James and Martin.

Some of you people need to learn to be a little less anal and actually enjoy what you've been given on occassion.

Amen to that. I really enjoyed the TEN commentary, especially Neil Crompton. He is well versed in motorsports, having been there and done that, and on that Sunday, you could hear his enthusiasm for the sport first hand. Woods, well, average as always, but Crompton makes up for it.

I will certainly regret the fact that 10 are not providing commentary as well as soon as I hear that imbecilic f***wit that is James Allen with his 1 light, 2 light,3 light, 4 light 5 lights, GO crap he repeats at the start of every race.

[swaction]

I always thought James Allen was more like...

"1 Light, 2 Lights, 3 Lights, 4 Lights, 5 Lights.... GO!! ---- ok, now lets talk about pit stop strategy..."

[Terramax]

Quote From Daemon

I will certainly regret the fact that 10 are not providing commentary as well as soon as I hear that imbecilic f***wit that is James Allen with his 1 light, 2 light,3 light, 4 light 5 lights, GO crap he repeats at the start of every race.

[dustee rubba]

i missed brundle and allan jones, particularly during the celebrity race

[GillesVilleneuve]

Originally posted by Mat

For their first time, I thought Woods and Crompton did a great job! If they followed the circus around for all 16 races I would be very happy to listen to them all year and not worry about James and Martin.

Some of you people need to learn to be a little less anal and actually enjoy what you've been given on occassion.

Crompton I can handle, it's Bill Woods who is way way out of his depth in motorsport in general, F1 in particular.

Have you ever listened to him ramble on in the MotoGP over the past 6 odd years he's been commentating on it? Has absolutely no idea (although admittedly he has improved, as anyone would). All he does is sit there with a whole bunch of statsitics and reads them out.

What I did find annoying in qualifying though, was that Woods (and to a lesser extent Crompton) would not commentate on what was happening, rather on records, what a great driver the person is etc. etc. Schumacher was 6 tenths up on T2 and neither commentater mentioned it until the final corners of the lap, too absorbed in their own little 10 year summary of how fantastic Schumacher is. They should at least replace Woods with someone who knows at least a little about F1...


I guess we were very spoilt having Brundle as a commentator (I believe he is the best commentator I've heard along with Bob Constanduros).

[Ray Bell]

Looks like you can handle two of him...

Yes, I'd agree, Crompton makes more than just a fair fist of it... you see he has notes with him, he tries to get the information for the event so that he can inform you.

Woods is the TEN front man for the show, so there's little you can do about his presence...

[doohanOK]

Originally posted by GillesVilleneuve
I guess we were very spoilt having Brundle as a commentator (I believe he is the best commentator I've heard along with Bob Constanduros).

I agree about Constanduros - he's fantastic.

regards,
doohanOK.

[AdrianM]

It is good that ITV is back but I think Bill and Neil did a good job during the AGP.
BTW, does Fox Sports have an agreement to show the Malaysian GP or do we have to wait til 10:30 pm for Channel 10?

[Raelene]

why post this thread - there was never any doubt that you wouldn't get ITV commentary after Australia - Channel 10 told you themselves...

[Ray Bell]

It's about forests and trees, Raelene...

To know that they would have had to listen to the ones they disliked.

[OssieFan]

Originally posted by Mat
Give it a rest will ya. Does it really matter who does the commentary? Have a look at other threads on this BB, there are brits complaining about their commentators and not getting live qual. Just be thankful for what you've got!

For their first time, I thought Woods and Crompton did a great job! If they followed the circus around for all 16 races I would be very happy to listen to them all year and not worry about James and Martin.

Some of you people need to learn to be a little less anal and actually enjoy what you've been given on occassion.

Well, yes it does matter who commentates. A good commentator can enhance a race. It's not anal to expect best quality.

[Mat]

Originally posted by OssieFan


Well, yes it does matter who commentates. A good commentator can enhance a race. It's not anal to expect best quality.

Yes, but its anal to go on and on over something that has been discussed to death. It seems like a lot of people just hate the 10 commentary beacuse of how they feel about the people, instead of what they are actually saying. Just because Woods may be a **** bike commentator doesnt mean he will be terrible at F1. I thought he did a great job at Melbourne. He knew when to open his mouth, and when to shut up.

Most of all, you could really tell both commentators were genuinely excited!

As Ray and and Raelene have mentioned above, there was never any doubt that 10 were going to revert back to the ITV commentary for the rest of the season. Yet we have people who are way too 'post happy' sprouting their insightfuls opinions when all was needed was a quick stop and think.

Originally posted by Daemon
I will certainly regret the fact that 10 are not providing commentary as well as soon as I hear that imbecilic f***wit that is James Allen with his 1 light, 2 light,3 light, 4 light 5 lights, GO crap he repeats at the start of every race.

and Daemon, would you prefer those famous words, "Boogety, Boogety Boogety!!"

[Witt]

all in all, crompton and woods

So long as the commentators are actually at the race, i couldn't care less who commentates.

The only thing i'd recommend for channel 10 is that they make friends with jackie stewart. He practically carried channel 9 in all of their telecasts. To a lesser extent, i'd say make friends with Alan Jones too, just so he can get a good story from the williams garage.

[TailHappy]

So let me get this straight...... there is no goat?

Cheers
TailHappy

[Nasty McBastard]

according to the latest f1 racing mag, c10 and fox didnt come to any agreement (IE fox wont show anything...even replays).

it also said that c10 wont ever be showing brundles 'pit walk' coz their aim was to show gp's at a decent time unlike 9, and by showing the pit walk, it would delay the actual race further, and we (the viewer) wouldnt be better off time wise.

strangely, according to that story, it said that some experienced journos etc reckoned that bernie should get crompton to do commentaty for ALL english speaking countries..... while crompton didnt annoy me, i didnt think he was that good.

[Nasty McBastard]

btw...who wants a bet?

come saturday or sunday our time theyll start bombing the piss out of iraq and every tv channel will do the "non stop constant coverage for a week" thing and well miss the race

[StuckOnGrid]

Being in the priviledged position of having heard BOTH Oz and ITV commentaries (thankyou Mum in Pomland), it was inescapable to note that Brundle informed the viewer far, far more comprehensively about what was going on during the race than Ch 10 did.

There was simply NO COMPARISON.

James Allen though, probably would not be out of place on Ch 10 (but filling Murray's shoes was always going to be a BIG ask).

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by Nasty McBastard
btw...who wants a bet?

come saturday or sunday our time theyll start bombing the piss out of iraq and every tv channel will do the "non stop constant coverage for a week" thing and well miss the race

Well, it only matters if TEN do that, doesn't it?

But you raise a suggestion that might come about... then again, after four days, the war will be second item on the news.

[AdrianM]

Originally posted by Nasty McBastard
btw...who wants a bet?

come saturday or sunday our time theyll start bombing the piss out of iraq and every tv channel will do the "non stop constant coverage for a week" thing and well miss the race

Channel 10 is not that bad and last night they were back to showing The Simpsons. I remember when Princess Diana was killed all networks showed non stop coverage from England while Ten showed a replay of a CART race

[SennasCat]

FWIW I rang Foxtel yesterday arvo (Thursday). They confirmed that they have missed out on F1 this year but are throwing their hats in the ring again at the end of the year and think that recent changes to anti-siphoning laws will help. It appears to be a $$$$ issue between Fox and Ch10

PS Lay off Crompton. I think his commentary is excellent. Bill Woods is Bill Woods but I can cop him for Crompton. I think Brundle is currently the best commentator but james allen drive me nuts with his pre-fab waffle. I just wish we still had James Hunt who was a straight and undiplomatic operator

[gerry nassar]

Originally posted by Steve Williams
FWIW I rang Foxtel yesterday arvo (Thursday). They confirmed that they have missed out on F1 this year but are throwing their hats in the ring again at the end of the year and think that recent changes to anti-siphoning laws will help. It appears to be a $$$$ issue between Fox and Ch10

PS Lay off Crompton. I think his commentary is excellent. Bill Woods is Bill Woods but I can cop him for Crompton. I think Brundle is currently the best commentator but james allen drive me nuts with his pre-fab waffle. I just wish we still had James Hunt who was a straight and undiplomatic operator

Ive got no problem with Crompton either. And Woods is ok.

The best would be Brundle and Constandouras.

James Allen bores me. :yawn:

[AdrianM]

BTW today all the networks were covering the Iraq conflict except for TEN who were showing Jerry Springer . I can't see F1 being shelved for war coverage

[Daveofoz]

Ok...Here's my correspondence with the nice people at Foxtel this week:

Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2003 3:41 PM
To: feedback@foxsports.com.au
Subject: Attn: Kris Re: Press release

As requested can u please email me the press release.
Thanks heaps

-----Original Message-----
From: Feedback [mailto:feedback@foxsports.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2003 2:50 PM
To: 'David
Subject: RE: Attn: Kris Re: Press release
Hi David:
As requested:

FOX SPORTS DISAPPOINTED WITH
FORMULA ONE OUTCOME
FOX SPORTS can confirm it has not acquired the right to televise Formula One on subscription television in 2003. FOX SPORTS had been negotiating with FOCA since late 2002 but in the end was unable to conclude satisfactory terms.
FOX SPORTS is disappointed that no deal has been secured as it had initially proposed an arrangement which would have resulted in every round of Formula One being broadcast live on Australian television, either on free-to-air television or FOX SPORTS. If this arrangement had been accepted, Australian fans would have been able to see every round of the Formula One live for the first time.
Channel 10 has acquired the Australian free-to-air television rights to Formula One. Formula One fans should now look to Ten to ensure that races are broadcast live, or not on delay.
FOX SPORTS Chief Executive David Malone said, "We have yet again been frustrated in our attempt to secure a better television deal for Australian Formula One fans. It is as inconceivable as it is disappointing that with the new broadcast arrangements in 2003, Australian viewers will still not be able to watch all Formula One races live".
In the meantime FOX SPORTS will continue to provide motor sport fans with as many live events as possible, including the Moto GP, Superbikes and NASCAR.
Kind regards
FOX SPORTS Marketing

-----Original Message----- From: David
Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2003 5:12 PM
To: 'Feedback'
Subject: RE: Attn: Kris Re: Press release
Dear Kris,
Thanks for this. Useful to know but disappointing nonetheless.
Hard as I try I'm not reading anything 'between the lines' - could be wrong glasses, tho prolly not.
I'm positive you must have a million other things that u are busy with - all vastly more pressing than this - so I apologise in advance for wasting your time...
If I understand correctly FOCA is the Formula One Constructors Association, who weren't/aren't the body responsible for the broadcast rights - I was sure that they get a cut of the $$$, but no real place at the bargaining table with the broadcasters as such. I believed the company that negotiates these rights (ostensibly on behalf of the FOCA, FIA, etc) is either Formula One Management Ltd (FOM) or Formula One Holdings Ltd (FOH), which are both headed up by Mr E.
So from the Foxtel Press Release it would seem that either Channel 10 or FOCA (or indeed possibly FOM or FOH) are getting in the way. The release would suggest that we now should be chasing 10 for proper (read: live) coverage, but it doesn't really imply that it's 10 that have prevented Foxtel obtaining the rights.
My gut feeling would be that Mr E wanted too much $$$. If this was the case, please reply with one knock for yes, two for no. :-)
I'd like you to know that us F1 fans are really a fairly troubled lot (clearly...no?), who have suffered the mis-treatment from channel 9's appalling coverage for many years. We were collectively rejoicing at the prospect of Foxtel carrying the non-channel 10-live races, as you did such a fantastic job a couple of years ago at the USGP (or was it Malaysia or Suzuka???)
Again...thanks for taking the time to hear out the raving crack-pot from Queensland. I'd really be interested in knowing if it is 10 or F1 ('s management) who are sorta responsible.
Regards,
David

-----Original Message----- From: Feedback [mailto:feedback@foxsports.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2003 1:24 PM
To: 'David
Subject: RE: Attn: Kris Re: Press release

Hi David:
I spoke to our Programming Department about your question and he replied by saying:

"The amount requested was substantially more than what FOX SPORTS Management were expecting to, or prepared to pay".
Hope this is a satisfactory answer for you.
Kind regards
Kris

So I'm still not sure who's asking for all the $$$. It would seem to be Bernie, but nothing definite in what is here. Not even a knock or two!!

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by AdrianM
BTW today all the networks were covering the Iraq conflict except for TEN who were showing Jerry Springer . I can't see F1 being shelved for war coverage

Same applies to September 11... TEN had minimal coverage, kept mostly to scheduled programmes.

[Nasty McBastard]

Originally posted by AdrianM

I remember when Princess Diana was killed all networks showed non stop coverage from England while Ten showed a replay of a CART race

THATS what i call having your priorities in order. i have slightly more confidence now.

ofcourse, being in tassie im still stuck with the question....if push comes to shove, will our halfarsed c7/c10 hybrid channel show 10's races or 7's gulf war mk 2