"Ralf, whose private life is embroiled in speculation in the German press"
anyone know more about this? german chaps perhaps?
is it serious enough to affect his driving?
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Ralf Speculation
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skinnylizard
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 16:46
I heard a commentator on Dutch tv say last night that the German newspaper Bild 'accused' Ralf of being gay... again. 
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 16:47
Yeah, where is Cora? havent seen her this weekend. I guess it should be too hot for her, she looks like a girl who does not like things as sweating and humidity.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 16:48
whoa that must be upsetting...
where did this come from..never heard of this bit..
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where did this come from..never heard of this bit..
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 16:48
One of the swedish commentaters sad the same thing, German press is digging deap into Ralfs [B]private[/B life right now.
Private has lost it meaning :(
/Viktor
Private has lost it meaning :(
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 16:52
Well I'm not german, nor do I know anything about press-speculations.
But IMO the guy isn't cut for this 1 lap-qualifying system. He can't get it wright. He starts doubting which makes it worse and thanks to the new points, awarding the top eight, he'll get some of them. But I think this year he crack under Montoya's pressure and capability as an f1 driver.
Ralf will be replaced @ Williams next year!
If Frank is still the same perfectionist as he has always been...
But IMO the guy isn't cut for this 1 lap-qualifying system. He can't get it wright. He starts doubting which makes it worse and thanks to the new points, awarding the top eight, he'll get some of them. But I think this year he crack under Montoya's pressure and capability as an f1 driver.
Ralf will be replaced @ Williams next year!
If Frank is still the same perfectionist as he has always been...
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 17:24
I wonder if there isn't a more straightforward explanation for Ralf's sudden lack of pace this year....
Idle speculation follows.....
Last year, he found himself having to wear corrective spectacles for the first time while racing - now if his eyes have deteriorated since then, maybe its taken whatever edge off his driving accounts for the last 1 sec of pace.
It always used to be thought that short-sighted drivers could never be competitive in F1 because the slight distortions caused by glasses are enough to take the edge off of a driver. Then along came Villeneuve and Ralf Schumacher, supposedly disproving this theory. Well maybe it still holds true in the end.
Certainly it might explain why he just isn't happy in the car at the moment - he's been complaining pretty much all winter about it after all - maybe its a physical problem on his part instead.
Incidentally, those of a historical bent might remember that visual problems were also behind the sudden loss of form of 70s F1 driver Johnny Servoz-Gavin.
I thought all the "Ralf Schumacher is gay" stuff was rather old news. Isn't (the enthusiastically heterosexual) Cubehead meant to be the gay icon ?
Idle speculation follows.....
Last year, he found himself having to wear corrective spectacles for the first time while racing - now if his eyes have deteriorated since then, maybe its taken whatever edge off his driving accounts for the last 1 sec of pace.
It always used to be thought that short-sighted drivers could never be competitive in F1 because the slight distortions caused by glasses are enough to take the edge off of a driver. Then along came Villeneuve and Ralf Schumacher, supposedly disproving this theory. Well maybe it still holds true in the end.
Certainly it might explain why he just isn't happy in the car at the moment - he's been complaining pretty much all winter about it after all - maybe its a physical problem on his part instead.
Incidentally, those of a historical bent might remember that visual problems were also behind the sudden loss of form of 70s F1 driver Johnny Servoz-Gavin.
I thought all the "Ralf Schumacher is gay" stuff was rather old news. Isn't (the enthusiastically heterosexual) Cubehead meant to be the gay icon ?
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 17:40
id never heard this whole Ralf being gay bit..and if he is good for him...kinda sucks that people make a huge deal of this stuff..
but i guess its the celebrity Ralf thats coming under scrutiny...i hope this is not affecting him because he has to be a lot tougher to keep his racing form going let alone compete with his team-mate and others on the grid.
hasnt been much of a start for Ralf..usually he peters out in the end of the season wonder how this season will show him up...
he cant be the weakest one of the big six. that just wont work...so far DC with his one win has made sure he isnt in the bottom of the top 6 for a while...
Wonder if Franky will sack him a la Zanardi if Ralf dosent get his act together. kind of sucks that Ralf has never really had a chalenging team-mate maybe thats what it is...
his days with Fisi dont count for a lot in my opinion as they both were greenhorns.Damon Hill was only a shadow of his former self..although prior to this season despite the press JPM and Ralf have seemed well matched..though JPM is the definite star of the two...
anyway enough mumbling..
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but i guess its the celebrity Ralf thats coming under scrutiny...i hope this is not affecting him because he has to be a lot tougher to keep his racing form going let alone compete with his team-mate and others on the grid.
hasnt been much of a start for Ralf..usually he peters out in the end of the season wonder how this season will show him up...
he cant be the weakest one of the big six. that just wont work...so far DC with his one win has made sure he isnt in the bottom of the top 6 for a while...
Wonder if Franky will sack him a la Zanardi if Ralf dosent get his act together. kind of sucks that Ralf has never really had a chalenging team-mate maybe thats what it is...
his days with Fisi dont count for a lot in my opinion as they both were greenhorns.Damon Hill was only a shadow of his former self..although prior to this season despite the press JPM and Ralf have seemed well matched..though JPM is the definite star of the two...
anyway enough mumbling..
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 17:59
Yeah really, who cares if he is gay - does that mean he can't drive a car fast?! I think he just isn't 'set up' mentally for the one lap quali. Like he thinks to much or something instead of just letting it happen and now that he has been unsuccesful in every one lapper he goes out on tot the track 'not there' mentally and ends up driving conservativly or gets flusterd and makes mistakes.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 18:09
I never understand how people know is one is gay. Ralf certainly doesn't have any physical signs showing it. Well, I guess it takes one to know one.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 18:12
Originally posted by Andrew Murphy
Yeah really, who cares if he is gay - does that mean he can't drive a car fast?! I think he just isn't 'set up' mentally for the one lap quali. Like he thinks to much or something instead of just letting it happen and now that he has been unsuccesful in every one lapper he goes out on tot the track 'not there' mentally and ends up driving conservativly or gets flusterd and makes mistakes.
The most reasonable arguement I've heard.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 18:18
These are dark days for Ralf Schumacher, he's got to try and not to let it effect his driving, mental approach very important in f1, and I think for Ralf its very important, if he's frustrated, he does show it on track as seen in the past.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 20:27
Ralf is just going through a bad patch at the moment. It will not surprise me in the slightest if we have these type of threads on Montoya in a months time! These two guys never seem to be on top form at the same time!
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 20:53
It's still way too early in the season to pass judgement. Ralf and Juan have been matched quite closely in the last 2 years other than qualifying. Other than that, both made bonehead mistakes and none of them's ready to challenge for a championship. I think Montoya is a bit overrated at the moment until he gets a few wins up his belt. As to Ralf, he better shake out of it or he'll drive a go kart after 2004. Montoya enjoys star power right now, but if it doesn't translate into wins soon, it,ll fizzle quickly... the lights will be turned towards Alonzo for a while. We'll see if he can stay there for a while without melting away.
Villeneuve will also have to get his act together soon or it will be his last year in F1. I don't know what's wrong with him so far this year but he sure can't shake Button off his back as easily as he lead me to believe.
I thought he would look better than this. But, again, it's still too early. But, time is quickly running out for him. Same for Ralf.
F1 is a ruthless business and if you're going to earn some $15M a year, you better be better than the guy who makes $4M a year or you're toast.
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Villeneuve will also have to get his act together soon or it will be his last year in F1. I don't know what's wrong with him so far this year but he sure can't shake Button off his back as easily as he lead me to believe.
I thought he would look better than this. But, again, it's still too early. But, time is quickly running out for him. Same for Ralf.
F1 is a ruthless business and if you're going to earn some $15M a year, you better be better than the guy who makes $4M a year or you're toast.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 20:56
Originally posted by henryting
I never understand how people know is one is gay. Ralf certainly doesn't have any physical signs showing it. Well, I guess it takes one to know one.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 20:58
There's a statement from Ralf on http://sport.rtl.de/...tm&color=FFFFFF about this. Its in German, but from what I can translate, it sounds like Cora's been photographed in a sexy outfit whilst out with another man, which the German gutter press have interpreted as evidence of an affair; and that there's been allegations that Ralf is also involved with a man. Ralf says, in no uncertain terms, that its rubbish - Cora was going out with a shared friend of theirs (their hairdresser?, and possibly to his party?, can't quite translate that part 
) He's also scathing regarding the allegations about his sexuality, pointing out that they have a child.
Poor bloke - makes you realise what they have to put up with away from the track.
) He's also scathing regarding the allegations about his sexuality, pointing out that they have a child.Poor bloke - makes you realise what they have to put up with away from the track.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 21:26
Although I've never been a big fan of both Schumachers, I do think Ralf can drive a GP car very well. I would rather see him push JPM like he did last year than to have him off the pace like the first two qualifying sessions in 2003.
So, whatever problems are besetting his ability to perform well this year, I hope he overcomes them.
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So, whatever problems are besetting his ability to perform well this year, I hope he overcomes them.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 21:36
What does that mean when he says he's not a swede? some sort of sexual thing?
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 23:14
Originally posted by AD
These two guys never seem to be on top form at the same time!
A bit like Villeneuve and Frentzen - France 97 was the first time they both finished in the points that seaosn, and it was a little afterwards that they were on the podium together.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 23:28
maybe Ralf's private life is just that. PRIVATE!!!!!!
on the other hand, these are definitely not private.
Ralf describing his qualifying lap to FW and Sam Michael.
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on the other hand, these are definitely not private.
Ralf describing his qualifying lap to FW and Sam Michael.
http://www.pitpass.c...f/ralffrank.jpg
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 23:32
His personal life is on non-consequence. His complete lack of pace better turn around soon or he will be replaced before the season ends. Frank has little patience.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 23:33
Originally posted by Manson
His personal life is on non-consequence. His complete lack of pace better turn around soon or he will be replaced before the season ends. Frank has little patience.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 23:48
These "personal speculation" stories usually don't deserve to see the light of day.
As to Ralf's qualifying, I'll just say that two qualifyings do NOT make a season. Interestingly, Ralf has experience with one-shot qualifying as it was used in Formula Nippon in 96. Ralf hasn't been slow, he's been making mistakes, which needs to be tidied up, and I'm sure he will. Also, last season, in first runs during qualifying, Ralf outpaced Juan, 15 to 2, so it has surprised me that he's struggled so far. I doubt we'll see this thread brought back at the end of the year, as I'm sure the end result will be more likely evenly split between Juan and Ralf.
As to Ralf's qualifying, I'll just say that two qualifyings do NOT make a season. Interestingly, Ralf has experience with one-shot qualifying as it was used in Formula Nippon in 96. Ralf hasn't been slow, he's been making mistakes, which needs to be tidied up, and I'm sure he will. Also, last season, in first runs during qualifying, Ralf outpaced Juan, 15 to 2, so it has surprised me that he's struggled so far. I doubt we'll see this thread brought back at the end of the year, as I'm sure the end result will be more likely evenly split between Juan and Ralf.
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Posted 22 March 2003 - 23:56
Originally posted by BigWig
What does that mean when he says he's not a swede? some sort of sexual thing?
Prior tranlsation, the word "Schwul" in German means "gay".
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Posted 23 March 2003 - 02:54
I read that page. it's just rumours. The bit about his son David being the result of artificial insemination says everything about the quality of that article. They should not publish things like that, particularly given that they had no factual evidence. He has a wife and a son. I find the whole need to out him very fascist. Their marriage is their business.
As for Ralf not bedding Jordan, (the topless English model Katie Price, who nicknamed herself after doing a photoshoot for Jordan F1) well the fact that she reported this in the first place says everything about her, she was clearly angry with him not giving in to her. What a quality woman she is. Not.
Either way, it was her who first said that Ralf must be gay, just because he went to bed with her but declined to "bed her" and it sounds very like the words of someone who is angry because they were jilted. Nothing more, nothing less. Hardly scientific proof.
Here's what I think happened with Jordan. Sure Ralf was turned on enough to go to bed with her, but at some point, either her sheer ambition and unhinged dangerous side showed itself and Ralf thought "hang on, this has stopped being fun and sexy, and you are hardly girlfriend material, so I'm out of here", or Ralf realised that Jordan expected it to be the start of a relationship and left sharpish.
I'm not even a Ralf Schumacher fan or anything, I just think that such press reporting should be stocked in the fiction section of newsagents.
As for Ralf not bedding Jordan, (the topless English model Katie Price, who nicknamed herself after doing a photoshoot for Jordan F1) well the fact that she reported this in the first place says everything about her, she was clearly angry with him not giving in to her. What a quality woman she is. Not.
Either way, it was her who first said that Ralf must be gay, just because he went to bed with her but declined to "bed her" and it sounds very like the words of someone who is angry because they were jilted. Nothing more, nothing less. Hardly scientific proof.
Here's what I think happened with Jordan. Sure Ralf was turned on enough to go to bed with her, but at some point, either her sheer ambition and unhinged dangerous side showed itself and Ralf thought "hang on, this has stopped being fun and sexy, and you are hardly girlfriend material, so I'm out of here", or Ralf realised that Jordan expected it to be the start of a relationship and left sharpish.
I'm not even a Ralf Schumacher fan or anything, I just think that such press reporting should be stocked in the fiction section of newsagents.
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Posted 23 March 2003 - 04:00
i read that in Sat qualifying after a crap performance Ralf just went out to his motorhome?instead of discussing it with his engineers?
could this whole thing also be a tempramental problem? he seems someone who gets upset a lot..i dont remember specific instances but i do see him as someone who is quick to anger
i mean with JPM the guy loses the lead in and a surefire victory chance, admits his mistake and gets on with it "**** happens"
i might be over analysing but i havent had my cup of tea yet...... and im not a Ralf basher or nothing.
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could this whole thing also be a tempramental problem? he seems someone who gets upset a lot..i dont remember specific instances but i do see him as someone who is quick to anger
i mean with JPM the guy loses the lead in and a surefire victory chance, admits his mistake and gets on with it "**** happens"
i might be over analysing but i havent had my cup of tea yet...... and im not a Ralf basher or nothing.
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Posted 23 March 2003 - 04:05
I really like Ralf.
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Originally posted by skinnylizard
i mean with JPM the guy loses the lead in and a surefire victory chance, admits his mistake and gets on with it "**** happens"www.pi-media.com
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JPM finished 2nd and had to face the post-race interview - he could not have stormed off to his motorhome if he had wanted to - well not without some huge fine anyway.
