I am interested in compiling a results record of South African Drivers' Championship races for the period 1953 to 1964. I could find nothing in this regard on TNF or the Internet as such. Perhaps if someone knows of a website that covers results of these races, they can please tell us.
If not, I can start posting some of the results that I have collected thus far - if anyone is interested. My results is not complete, though. Apart from driver placings, I am sometimes also not sure of dates, circuits, etc.
I start with the 1953 results...
1953 South African Drivers' Championship Events
False Bay 100
1) Edgar Hoal (Riley)
2) Stanley Reed (Citroen)
3) Doug Duff (Riley)
4) Les Miller (MG)
5) Don Philp (MG)
6) Bill Jennings (Riley)
Fairfield Trophy
1) Doug Duff (Riley)
2) R. Hutchons
3) L. Warren
4) Frank Brodie (MG)
Van Riebeeck Trophy
1) Niel de Kock (Millecento)
2) Roy Humphreys (Consul Special)
3) Bill Jennings (Riley)
4) W. Frewer (Frewer Special)
5) Mrs. Z. Wallace (Austin)
Coronation 100
1) Arthur MacKenzie (Cooper JAP)
2) Doug Duff (Riley)
3) Peter Illing (MG)
4) J. Hotchkiss (MG)
East London Winter Handicap
1) Les Miller (MG)
2) N. Pratt (MG)
3) Doug Duff (Riley)
4) Bill Jennings (Riley)
5) Tony Fergusson (Riley)
6) Frank Brodie (MG)
1820 Settlers' Race
1) Frank Brodie (MG)
2) Harry Peirce (MG)
3) Tony Fergusson (Cooper-Norton)
4) Bill Jennings (Riley)
5) R. Lock (MG)
6) H. Sutcliffe (MG)
South African Drivers' Championship Results 1953-1964
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Hieronymus
, Apr 15 2003 07:55
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Posted 15 April 2003 - 08:26
Hieronymus I have listed most of the SA drivers championship results from 1966 to 1975 in my webpage http://drive.to/formula1results, but I do have lots of questions and very few answers, any extra data is always welcomed.
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Posted 15 April 2003 - 09:35
Yes, Quintin, I am familiar for your website and your excellent effort in documenting the South African F1 results from 1966 onwards. It is the years prior to that, that now seems to be a real challenge.
Apart from Ken Stewart's book, "Sun on the Grid" and old South African CAR magazine reports, there are not many sources that seems of value in this regard. The magazine "Classic car africa" also featured articles and results, but most just give the top 6 or so finishers. No details of non-finishers, etc. I presume you are familiar with all these sources??
I am happy to post some results here, if it is of interest to you and other TNF enthusiasts.
By the way the reason for starting with 1953 - this was the first year the championship was held. I think they refer to it as the RAC SA Drivers' Champioship. RAC rules was applicable.
Apart from Ken Stewart's book, "Sun on the Grid" and old South African CAR magazine reports, there are not many sources that seems of value in this regard. The magazine "Classic car africa" also featured articles and results, but most just give the top 6 or so finishers. No details of non-finishers, etc. I presume you are familiar with all these sources??
I am happy to post some results here, if it is of interest to you and other TNF enthusiasts.
By the way the reason for starting with 1953 - this was the first year the championship was held. I think they refer to it as the RAC SA Drivers' Champioship. RAC rules was applicable.
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Posted 15 April 2003 - 11:03
Hieronymus I am familiar with sun on the grid and CCA mag, but one book at is always forgoten is the book by Brud Bishop called South African Grand Prix, I know that Motorbooks in Craighall Park has some second copys of the book for about R400, and first issue (1967)of the Sun on the Grid for R1200.
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Posted 15 April 2003 - 14:09
Quintin. This is outrageous!! I bought Sun on the Grid (1st Ed.) for R50, about 4 years ago. The Bishop book is at the Cape Town Library. If you are interested in it, let me know.
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Posted 15 April 2003 - 16:15
Heiro,
Am I not right in thinking points were awarded on both scratch and handicap results? Or did that not come in till later?
Am I not right in thinking points were awarded on both scratch and handicap results? Or did that not come in till later?
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Posted 16 April 2003 - 06:39
Originally posted by Hieronymus
Quintin. This is outrageous!! I bought Sun on the Grid (1st Ed.) for R50, about 4 years ago. The Bishop book is at the Cape Town Library. If you are interested in it, let me know.
You were lucky with that, because I have been looking for a 1st ed. copy of the book to see what the difference is between the orginal and the reprinted version of 1999.
Thanks for the offer, but I have a copy of the book.
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Posted 16 April 2003 - 06:47
David
Yes, it seems that points were awarded for handicap as well as scratch places until the end of 1958. Certain races were nominated as championship races, although non-championship races were also held during the years.
Post 1958 the rules for awarding points are rather confusing:
To qualify for the RAC South African Drivers' Championship must have competed in at least three of the qualifying (championship) events and one of these races must have been outside his own province.
They even go further to add to the confusion, by stating that the Eastern Province (which was a region within the Cape Province) was regarded as a seperate province. This was applicable for races held in East London and Port Elizabeth. Cape Town (also in the Cape Province) was thus regarded as a seperate province. Thus, a driver who competes in Cape Town and in one race either in Port Elizabeth or East London, will qualify for championship points.
The three best results counted towards the scoring of points. Also - only drivers living in the Union of South Africa, the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland and Mozambique and Angola, could qualify for the championship.
Yes, it seems that points were awarded for handicap as well as scratch places until the end of 1958. Certain races were nominated as championship races, although non-championship races were also held during the years.
Post 1958 the rules for awarding points are rather confusing:
To qualify for the RAC South African Drivers' Championship must have competed in at least three of the qualifying (championship) events and one of these races must have been outside his own province.
They even go further to add to the confusion, by stating that the Eastern Province (which was a region within the Cape Province) was regarded as a seperate province. This was applicable for races held in East London and Port Elizabeth. Cape Town (also in the Cape Province) was thus regarded as a seperate province. Thus, a driver who competes in Cape Town and in one race either in Port Elizabeth or East London, will qualify for championship points.
The three best results counted towards the scoring of points. Also - only drivers living in the Union of South Africa, the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland and Mozambique and Angola, could qualify for the championship.
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Posted 16 April 2003 - 06:50
Originally posted by quintin cloud
You were lucky with that, because I have been looking for a 1st ed. copy of the book to see what the difference is between the orginal and the reprinted version of 1999.
From what I have heard, is that the reprint does not have colour photos ... or not as many as the 1st Edition. Seems the 1st Edition is the one to have ?!
