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[Herbert]

I`m looking for the final point standings of the US and European F5000 championship. And how were the points distributed?

Thanks for your help!

[Chris Townsend]

In UK
1969-1972: 9-6-4-3-2-1 for the first six places.
1973 onwards 20-15-12-10-8-6-4-3-2-1 for the first 10 places

In USA
1967-1969: 9-6-4-3-2-1
1970 onwards 20-15-12-10-8-6-4-3-2-1


SCCA Continental Championship Results 1970
[Taken from review sheet posted to competitors.]

John Cannon 129 points
Gus Hutchison 91
David Hobbs 86
Eppie Wietzes 81
Ron Grable 72
George Follmer 71
John Gunn 66
Mark Donohue 52
Dick Smothers 40
Bill Brack 36
John Martin 34
Dave Jordan 29
George Wintersteen 28
Rex Ramsey 27
Fred Baker 26
Spence Stoddard 26
Eric Haga 22
Hiroshi Fushida 20
Dow Byers 18
Mike Brockman 16
Mike Goth 15
Gregg Young 13
Chuck Parsons 12
Dave Oxton 10
Horst Kroll 8
Richard Galloway 6
Kurt Reinold 4
Lyle Forsgren 4
Jim Paul 3
Glen Brown 2
John Saucier 2
Gerard Raney 1
Crockey Peterson 1
Pete Sherman 1
Bob Stanford 1



1971 L&M Championship [Taken from Competition Press & Autoweek]

David Hobbs 115
Sam Posey 70
Brett Lunger 64
Eppie Wietzes 59
Jim Dittemore 41
Frank Matich 35
Ron Grable 30
Gregg Young 28
Lothar Motschenbacher 26
Bill Brack 23
Gerard Raney 21
John Gunn 20
Skip Barber 18
Jerry Hansen 17
Evan Noyes 10
Horst Kroll 9
Jack Eiteljorg 9
Monte Shelton 8
Merle Brennan 8
Peter Lovely 6
Barry Blockmore 4
Bob Morley 4
John Milledge 4
Dennis Ott 3
Richard Negley 3
Ed Felter 2
Bill Gubelmann 2
Ron Bucknum 1
John Ward 1
Nick Dioguardi 1
Chris Cook 1
Mike Brockman 1



More to follow!!

[Chris Townsend]

1969 SCCA Continental Championship


Tony Adamowicz 47
David Hobbs 46
Sam Posey 41
John Cannon 31
George Wintersteen 31
Bob Brown 16
Bud Morley 14
Dick Simon 11
Andrea de Adamich 10
Peter Gethin 9
Lothar Motschenbacher 7
Chuck Dietrich 7
Jerry Hansen 7
John Cordts 6
Gus Hutchison 6
George Eaton 5
John Gunn 4
Mike Goth 4
Horst Kroll 4
Jo Bonnier 4
Mike Hiss 3
Eppie Wietzes 3
John Mahler 2
Sherwood Johnston 2
Jon Ward 2
Pete Lovely 1
Kurt Reinold 1
Alan Bouverat 1

[Herbert]

Thanks so far!!!

[Chris Townsend]

Correction on points system for UK series

9-6-4-3-2-1 was 1970-1972
1969 was
500 1st
350
250
200
150
125
100
90
80
75
70
65
60
55
50
45 16th !
There were probably points available below this, but 16 was the largest number
of race finishers.

[Chris Townsend]

Oh and in 1973 and '74 the last race in the British series carried double points
[40-30-24 etc.] This might have been true for '75 too but I haven't got that far yet
and by the last race of British F5000 no-one much cared I guess.

(and if there was an R in the month then drivers with double barrelled names
could multiply their points score by a co-efficient of 2.3145)

Meantime, here's UK 1973 [including the double points at last race]

Teddy Pilette 136
Tony Dean 133
Keith Holland 116
Steve Thompson 114
Guy Edwards 98
Tom Belsø 97
Brett Lunger 95
Peter Gethin 65
Bob Evans 64
Gijs van Lennep 59
Clive Santo 49
Ian Ashley 37
David Hobbs 29
David Oxton 28
Graham McRae 28
Chris Craft 24
John Watson 24
Bobby Brown 23
Brian Robinson 15
Ray Allen 12
Jock Russell 7
Alan Rollinson 6
Jac Nellemann 6
Tony Trimmer 5
Willie Green 5
Damien Magee 4
Richard Knight 3
Clive Baker 2
John Gunn 2
Arie Luyjendijk 1

[Chris Townsend]

Here's UK championship results for 69, 70. 71 and 72.
There's a bit of an issue with 1974, depending on whether you count
the result of the Mugello race which was stopped after 13 laps, so
I'm trying to find out how that was treated at the time.


UK 1969
Peter Gethin 2360
Keith Holland 2275 net [2445 all scores]
Trevor Taylor 2160
Mike Hailwood 2085
Mike Walker 1980 net [2035 all scores]
Alan Rollinson 1920
Ulf Norinder 1620 net [1675 all scores]
David Hobbs 1265
Willie Forbes 1065
Robert Lamplough 785
Derrick Williams 675
Andrea de Adamich 625
Doug Hardwick 580
Terry Sanger 565
Steve Thompson 420
Kaye Griffiths 395
Frank Gardner 350
Peter Westbury 350
Brian Cullen 305
Ian Ashley 305
Ian Mitchell 290
Dave Berry 275
Chris Summers 245
Mike Coombe 235
John Dean 235
Carlos Avallone 220
Horst Kroll 215
Jock Russell 180
Bob Waters 170
Dave McCloy 165
Graham Eden 160
Robin Widdows 150
Brian Nelson 150
John Millar 150
Tony Lanfranchi 125
John Smith 125
Tony Barchou 100
Ken Fildes 90
Richard Heeley 80
Tony Charnell 80
Chris Warwick-Drake 70
Jim Charnock 65
Bill Brack 60
Jan van Straaten 60
Bev Bond 55
Jonathan Williams 50
Derek Bell 50
Tommy Reid 45
Tony Dean 35


UK 1970
Peter Gethin 90
Howden Ganley 72
Mike Hailwood 52
Frank Gardner 49
Mike Walker 42
Graham McRae 37
Trevor Taylor 33
Reine Wisell 33
Roy Pike 17
David Prophet 12
Ulf Norinder 10
Keith Holland 8
Davey Powell 8
Gordon Spice 7
Fred Saunders 7
Kaye Griffiths 6
Willie Forbes 4
Alan Rollinson 4
David Hobbs 2
Derrick Williams 2
Ray Calcutt 2
Mo Nunn 1
Lingard Goulding 1
Tony Lanfranchi 1


UK 1971

Frank Gardner 88
Mike Hailwood 58
Mike Walker 36
Brian Redman 34
Graham McRae 33
Ray Allen 30
Alan Rollinson 29
Teddy Pilette 16
Trevor Taylor 16
Tony Dean 9
David Prophet 9
Peter Gethin 7
John Myerscough 5
Ulf Norinder 5
Fred Saunders 5
Jean-Pierre Jaussaud 4
Howden Ganley 4
Tony Trimmer 4
Keith Holland 3
Jock Russell 2
Rob Taylor 1
Dave Berry 1

UK 1972
Gijs van Lennep 62
Brian Redman 52
Graham McRae 51
Alan Rollinson 49
Teddy Pilette 25
Ray Allen 23
Steve Thompson 19
Keith Holland 16
John Cannon 15
Ian Ashley 6
David Prophet 6
Clive Santo 5
Gordon Spice 4
Frank Gardner 4
Fred Saunders 3
Pierre Soukry 2
Jock Russell 2
Guy Edwards 2
Ray Calcutt 1
Cyd Williams 1
Roger Williamson 1

[Alexey Rogachev]

Great thread! I looked for F5000 championship results for a long time - but without any success - until I found this thread. Many thanks for it!

[Herbert]

Did Arie Luyendyk really drove in F5000, I thought at that time of his career he was still in FFord.
Does anybody have infos about the European/British championships in 1974-76?

[Chris Townsend]

Herbert

Yes, Luyendijk really did have a one off drive in Sheridan Thynne's McLaren M18
He was very young, either still in FF1600 or just starting in FSV, but was
considered a real prospect, and it didn't take a lot of experience [or ability]
to get on a F5000 grid so he had as good a claim as any. And he did okay, finished
10th, three laps down on the winner [Edwards] in a wet and confused race.
Also, Dutch drivers in the mid 70s tended to get accelerated treatment if they
showed the slightest ability. Consider Michael Bleekemolen, thrown straight out
of FF2000 into an F1 March in 1977, or Roelof Wunderink who went from FF1600
to F1 very quicky, via a season in F5000, because of a supportive sponsor.

Regarding 1974-76: What do you want to know?
I'm in the process of preparing all the British F5000 and G8 results for oldracingcars.com.
We've posted everything up to 1972 and 1973 is almost complete but blocked by a total
lack of detail on the Jyllandsringen race in Denmark.
You'll see from the site that we go into a considerable level of detail, and for '73 and '74 will
even have lap charts for some races.
1974 I have results and am just laying in qualifying times and trying to find
retirement reasons etc.
1976 is ready to roll.
1975 is the one season where I have to do a lot of work, as all my original results
are on a corrupted ZIP disc.

[Milan Fistonic]

Originally posted by Chris Townsend

There's a bit of an issue with 1974, depending on whether you count
the result of the Mugello race which was stopped after 13 laps, so
I'm trying to find out how that was treated at the time.

The Mugello race was run in two heats. The first was called off after 7 laps because of heavy rain. After waiting for some hours for the rain to stop it was decided (at 8 pm) that rather than try to complete the first heat they would just run the second heat. Soon after that race started the rain began again and the race was stopped after 4 laps. The results were decided on aggregate results of the two shortened heats and according to Autocourse full points were awarded.

[Chris Townsend]

Milan

Thank you, that's really helpful. Would anyone out there have a programme
for the Mugello race, so I can tidy up on who entered and who didn't?

Also, I was not wholly right about Luyendijk's 1973 outing being a one-off.
He had a second race in the car, at the final round at Brands Hatch and
finished 14th, four laps down on Edwards, who won again. This might not seem
that good but he probably had never been to Brands, and the field at that race
was as competitive as it got that year. [John Watson was 3rd in a Trojan and
Regazzoni 12th in a Lola T330, though not trying too hard I guess]. And the
McLaren M18 was not that good when it was new, by this time it was two
years old, and even Tony Trimmer, who drove it most often, on circuits he
knew well, couldn't wring better than 7th out of it.

[Herbert]

Thanks Chris for the infos so far!

I´m looking for the final championship standings of these three seasons. For the results of races I can wait till they are published on oldracingcars.com.
Cause the final championship standings are the only thing I miss on that side. Apart from that it´s really great! Lot´s of vital information!!!

[Chris Townsend]

Here is British ShellSport 1976 series. This was not F5000, but allowed in F1
F5000, F2 and F.Atlantic cars. The same rules applied in 1977, and then
changed to admit only F1 and F2 cars.

David Purley 163 net 172 all scores
Damien Magee 107
Keith Holland 95
Divina Galica 57
Mike Wilds 51
Val Musetti 43
Richard Scott 42
Brian McGuire 32
Richard Robarts 30
Guy Edwards 28
Bill Gubelmann 27
Brian Henton 27
Emilio de Villota 26
Ray Mallock 26
Derek Bell 25
Tony Rouff 22
Eddie Cheever 22
Alan Jones 20
John Nicholson 19
Norman Dickson 18
Bob Evans 15
Andy Sutcliffe 14
Jeremy Rossiter 12
Jim Crawford 11
Dennis Leech 11
John Wingfield 10
Brian Robinson 10
John Cannon 10
Mikka Arpianen 8
Bernard de Dryver 6
Hans Binder 6
Ken Bailey 5
Alo Lawler 4
Phil Sharp 4
Phil Dowsett 4
Andy Barton 4
Ian Grob 4
John Calvert 3
Chris Featherstone 3
Jim Kelly 3
Bob Muir 3
Cyd Williams 3
Lella Lombardi 2
Bob Howlings 1
Ted Wentz 1

[Milan Fistonic]

Motoring News lists the following as runners at Mugello in 1974.

In aggregate finishing order.

1. David Hobbs, Hogan Racing Lola T330
2. Bob Evans, STP-backed Lola
3. Teddy Pilette, Team VDS Chevron B28
4. Brian Robinson, McLaren M18
5. Roelof Wunderink, Chevron
6. Lella Lombardi, Lola
7. Clive Santo
8. Brian McGuire
9. Ian Ashley
10. Trevor Twaites

Peter Gethin, Patrick Sumner and Tony Trimmer (in the very old MCD McLaren) were the other runners.

Autocourse has more details of the cars.

1. Hobbs - Lola T330-Chev/Falconer & Dunn, 25m 26.0s
2. Evans, Lola T332-Chev/Smith, 25m 57.0s
3. Pilette, Chevron B28-Chev/Morand, 26m 21.5s
4. Robinson, McLaren M19C- Chev/Morand, 28m 26.6s
5. Wunderink, Chevron B24-Chev/Morand, 28m 46.5s
6. Lombardi, Lola T330-Chev/Smith-Oates, 28m 52.7s
7. Santo, Lola T330-Chev/Smith, 29m 9.4s
8. McGuire, Lola T332-Chev/Smith, 10 laps
9. Ashley, Lola T330-Chev/RES, 9 laps
10. Twaites, Lola T330-Chev/Bolthoff, 9 laps

Gethin, Chevron B28-Chev/Morand

Heat One

1. Hobbs, 15m 52.7s
2. Evans, 15m 53.4s
3. Gethin, 15m 56.0s
4. Ashley, 16m 0.2s
5. McGuire, 16m 40.9s
6. Pilette, 16m 55.4s
FL. Hobbs, 2m 11.4s

Heat Two

1. Pilette, 9m 26.1s
2. Hobbs, 9m 33.2s
3. Evans, 10m 3.6s
4. Wunderink, 11m 3.2s
5. Santo, 11m 21.5s
6. Robinson, 11m 25.6s
FL. Hobbs, 2m 16.7s

[Herbert]

I'm looking for the final championship standings of the European F5000-series in 1974 and 1975. Thanks in advance for your help!

[Vitesse2]

Top ten 1975

1 Teddy Pilette (Lola T400-Chev) 174 pts
2 Peter Gethin (Lola T400-Chev) 143
3 Guy Edwards (Lola T332-Chev) 122
4 Ian Ashley (Lola T332-Chev) 101
5 David Purley (Chevron B30-Ford) 98
6 Richard Scott (Lola T400-Chev) 85
7= Alan Jones (March 751-Ford) 64
7= Bob Evans (Lola T400-Chev) 64
9 Brian Robinson (McLaren M19-Chev) 49
10 Gordon Spice (Lola T332-Chev) 30

Source: John Player Motor Sport Yearbook 1976.

[Rob29]

1974 points
Bob Evans-Lola T332-Smith-193pts
Peter Gethin-Chevron B28-Morand-186
Ian Ashley-Lola T300-Smith-152
Teddy Pilette-Chevron B28-Morand-108
Lella Lonbardi-Lola T300 Smith-88
David Hobbs-Lola T330-Falconer-81
Vern Schuppan-Trojan T101-Smith/Lola T330/Chevron B28-77
Tom Belso-Lla T300-Smith-72
Brian Redman-Lola T332-Smith-67
Chris Craft-Chevron B24/8 Morand-67
Mike Wilds-March74A-Smith/Oates-58
Clive Santo-Lola T300-Smith-42
Brian Robinson-McLaren M19-Morand-42
Damien Magee-Lola T330/Trojan T101/Chevron B24-41?
Guy Edwards-Lola T332 -Smith-37
Tony Dean-Chevron B24-Morand-28
Patrick Summer-Trojan T101-Smith-27
Brian McGuire-Trojan T101/Lola T332-Smith-26
Keith Holland-Trojan T102/Lola T332-Smith-19.5
Steve Thompson-Trojan T102/Chevron B24-RES-19
Roulf Wonderlink-Chevron B24-15
Rest of entrants
Tom Walkinshaw-Modus-Ford
Willi Wood-Trojan T101-Fewkes-1 pt
Clive Baker-March 73A-Smith-4pts
Alan Jones-Chevron B24
Arie Luyrndijk-Chevron B24