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[CSGPR]

Hi

Once again we enjoy a Historic F1 Race weekend, At jet we also face the same problem as always. I have not been able to locate an entry list and I haven't been able to find any pratice report ether. is there anybody in this forum who happens to have information from this event please share them.

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[rdrcr]

Their Website usually posts the results shortly after each event.

[Don Capps]

Thanks to Our Dave Kane, I spent a pleasant time at Indy with the HF1 folks. Alas, the folder with all the material I had gathered for an article in Rear View Mirror went missing and only finally surfaced today. I had lost any hope of ever finding it since I didn't have the slightest idea of where it had gone. I finally turned up mixed in with work files as I am cleaning out my office files. How it got in there with my files on what turned into IRAQI FREEDOM is beyond me.... At least it was "secure".....

[CSGPR]

Hi rdrcr

Now there have gone a whole week and stil nothinge, to be quit hornest this is the name of the game - no news.

As I said there is no official up date from the series it's self. So if anybody have some information please share it.

[Don Capps]

The next event is at Mont-Tremblant, St. Jovite 4 thru 6 July. They return to the West Coast at Laguna Seca on 14 thru 16 August. This is a good one to attend since Bob Slade's Cosworth shop is very close by. And the last scheduled event is at the USGP at Indy on 26 thru 28 September.

There generally is not anything posted on their site concerning the time of the practice sessions and so forth. Unlike the micomanaged modern F1 events, they generally share attitude that Rick Knoop has -- "....this is supposed to be fun and when it becomes like work, I'm outta here."

I tend to think that they are more concerned with getting to the events and doing all the magic needed to keep these often fickle machines operating than updating the web site. And they are such absolutely nice people.....

[Mike Argetsinger]

In case you are still looking for these results - I found this on Lynne Hennig's PressSnoop.

JIM BUSBY/82 Tyrrell F1 011 led from start to finish and won the Historic Grand Prix race at Thunderhill Raceway Park on Sunday. His teammate - now and for years on the sports car circuits - RICK KNOOP/79 Tyrrell F1 009/1 gave it his best and turned the raceÕs fastest lap of 101.11 mph/1:43.246 but finished 0.842 seconds behind. Knoop and ERICH JOINER/83 Williams FW08C raced hard, passing each other more than once, but Knoop passed last and then chased Busby. Joiner finished third.

Another of the Busby stable of four drivers, LARRY RAGLAND/79 Tyrrell 009/7, finished fourth after starting sixth. What was so amazing to me was that Ragland, a 20+ veteran and champion in off-roading, had never before raced in a sports or open wheel car or on a road course. He had six laps of testing in another vintage car at Buttonwillow, two weeks before he came to Thunderhill, where he tested on Friday. Ragland has raced SCORE off-road events. He was the factory Chevrolet driver, until Chevrolet discontinued its off-road program. Ragland has won the Baja 1000 six times running solo, run the Paris-Dakar Rally/Raid, and Pikes Peak Hill Climb. He said racing in the Formula One car is a dream come true, one more thing he can mark off his list of Things To Do. Ragland will be racing the Tyrrell in more HGP events.

Fifth finisher was BUD MOELLER/79 Ensign F1, behind Ragland.

There were assorted mechanical problems, which is understandable with highly technical and tuned cars twenty to thirty-five years old. But there were no incidents, and it was a highly safe and sane weekend all around. .As one team owner, MICHAEL TAGGART, put it - ÒWhat can be better than being at a great race track in a bucolic setting with cows and sheep grazing on nearby hills and snowcapped mountains in the distance, listening to the sound of Formula One cars screaming around the track; and then in the silence, hear the singing of meadowlarks?Ó

HGP was racing at the invitation of the Classic Sports Racing Group which was conducting its annual Spring Fling vintage races

The cars ran the ÔlongÕ course (2.9 miles), one of the several configurations on the ten-year old road circuit set in the agricultural foothills of Glenn County, two and a half hours north of San Francisco. The course is owner built by San Francisco Region of the Sports Car Club of America - the first club owned race track in the country. I feel justifiable pride every time IÕm there. I have a lot of sweat equity in the track, having been part of the original Properties Board which conceived and built the track.

Thunderhill runs a variety of mostly amateur events including SCCA races, vintage and historic races, motorcycle races, and lots of car commercials, including the Cadillac commercial with cars running towards each other and splitting ranks. The track is in use nearly year-round. It is six miles from a private airport which can accommodate private jets and this was utilized over the weekend for vintage drivers flying in and out, including JIM MICHAELIAN, President/CEO of the Grand Prix Association of Long Beach.

With Historic Grand Prix itÕs not just about the racing, but racing pieces of motorsports history after being sought out and lovingly restored. All the drivers have stories.

CHUCK McCONNELL found his 1979 McLaren M29 in a central California wine cave. DAVE OLSON found his 1975 Vels Parnelli F1 car in a basket in the basement of the Parnelli Jones Museum. DR. NICK COLYVAS races the same 1974 Tyrrell 007 he saw JODIE SCHECKTER race in South Africa, where they both were born.

Historic Grand Prix drivers may authentically restore their cars down to the last bolt, but they wear current approved fire suits, helmets and seat belts. Four of the drivers wear the HANs device.

The youngest driver was RYAN DELANE/1972 March 721 at age 25; the oldest was 77-year old PETE LOVELY/1969 Lotus 69 F2. Lovely used to race Formula One himself, hauling his race car behind a right-hand drive VW pickup, doing all the mechanical work himself until he could afford to hire a crew. Lovely bought his Lotus from BERNIE ECCLESTONE in the early seventies.

JIM BUSBY owns the 1981 Theodore F1 because he was hungry and wanted to go to dinner last year at the famed Pebble Beach car auction. He made up an impossibly low ÔabsenteeÕ bid and left to eat. He learned the next morning he got the car for $15,000 less than what just the engine alone would cost. His son, DAVID BUSBY, races the car.

ERICH JOINER now owns the 1983 Williams FWO8C which FRANK WILLIAMS gave to driver KEKE ROSBERG, but later had to sell because McLaren didnÕt like the idea of its new driver running around the country displaying a car of a competing marque.

SANHIRO NOZAKI/1975 Graham Hill F1 traveled the furthest distance, from Tokyo, Japan; DOUG MOCKETT/1975 Penske PC3 comes from St.Croix, Virgin Islands. The drivers who traveled the least were all from the San Francisco Bay Area - Colyvas, Olson, and LARRY LESS/1974 Hesketh F1.

The Tyrrell Twins, JOHN DELANE and JOHN DIMMER are taking their sister 1971 Tyrrells, Chassis 002 and 004, to Dearborn, Michigan in mid June (the same weekend as Le Mans), for the big Ford Hundredth Anniversary celebration. After the Canadian race in July, they travel to Monterey for the Thirtieth Annual Historic Automobile Races, where they will have their two Tyrrells, along with Chassis 001, 005 and perhaps 006, as well as the original Tyrrell transporter, which Delane sought out and restored. This will be the first time this Tyrrell assemblage has been all together. One of the original drivers, SIR JACKIE STEWART, the first contracted Tyrrell driver, will race one of the cars. The last driver ever contracted to drive by Tyrrell is Delane. He signed a contract last month with the Tyrrell Racing Organization to test the Tyrrell Chassis 01 and then race it at Clermont Ferrand before bringing it back to Monterey.

The next race for Historic Grand Prix is over the Fourth of July weekend, at St. Jovite in Canada. In August, Historic Grand Prix is the featured race at the Monterey Historics, which will honor FordÕs hundred years of racing. HGP will have its own exhibit and display area, complete with story boards for all the cars. HGP will practice on Friday, as do all the groups. Saturday theyÕre off, which is a good time to visit them in the paddock, and they race Sunday afternoon.


HISTORIC GRAND PRIX RESULTS ¥ THUNDERHILL RACEWAY
POS Q DRIVER CAR ORIGINAL DRIVER LAPS STATUS

1 1 JIM BUSBY 82 Tyrrell F1 011 Michele Alboreto 10 RUNNING
2 5 RICK KNOOP 79 Tyrrell F1 009/1 Didier Pironi 10 RUNNING
3 2 ERICH JOINER 83 Williams FW08C Keke Rosberg 10 RUNNING
4 6 LARRY RAGLAND 79 Tyrrell 009/7 Jean-Pierre Jarrier 10 RUNNING
5 4 BUD MOELLER 79 Ensign F1 Derek Daly 10 RUNNING
6 15 DAVE OLSON 75 Vels Parnelli F1 Mario Andretti 10 RUNNING
7 8 DAVID BUSBY 81 Theodore F1 Patrick Tambay 10 RUNNING
8 7 DOUG MOCKETT 75 Penske PC3 John Watson 10 RUNNING
9 17 RYAN DELANE 72 March 721 John Watson 10 RUNNING
10 13 CHUCK McCONNELL 79 McLaren M29 Alain Prost 10 RUNNING
11 11 PETE LOVELY 69 Lotus 69 F2 Graham Hill 9 RUNNING
12 14 JOHN DIMMER 71 Tyrrell F1 004 Jackie Stewart 7 RETIRED
DNF 17 NICK COLYVAS 74 Tyrrell 007 Jodie Scheckter 0 RETIRED
DNS 9 JOHN DELANE 71 Tyrrell F1 002 Francois Cevert
DNS 16 LARRY LESS 74 Hesketh F1 James Hunt
DNS 12 SANHIRO NOZAKI 75 Graham Hill F1 Graham Hill
DNS 14 JEFF LEWIS 77 McLaren M26 James Hunt

[David M. Kane]

Thunderhill is a non-spectator event. It is the race the Historic Grand Prix group uses to give new guys a chance to run and to get to know the other guys. I believe that four new drivers took part and that they had
19 cars at this event, but it looks like not all of them made it the final
race. There was also a qualifying race on Saturday.

I wasn't there, but this is what I heard from another member of the group.

[CSGPR]

Hi Mike Argetsinger


Thank You for a very nice report,


Best regards