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#1 chester316

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 08:34

these are the transcripts from f1-live.com
10:13 : Welcome back for the final forty-five minute free practice session
10:15 : Ralph Firman emerges as soon as pit lane opens
10:16 : The two BAR drivers follow close behind
10:17 : Michael Schumacher is back on track...
10:22 : A very bad accident for Jenson Button!
10:23 : The BAR hit the barrier at the end of the tunnel and veered across the track and into the wall
10:23 : The young Brit is still in the car surrounded by medics
10:25 : There is very little left of the BAR and the stretcher appears....
10:29 : There are looks of concern in the BAR garage as Button remains in the wreckage...
10:33 : Jenson is finally removed from the car and transported to hospital
10:35 : The BAR is being removed from the track and the session should restart shortly
10:36 : It looks as if BAR boss Dave Richards has tears in eyes....

This is all the info i can get so far :(

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#2 Dead Sexy

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 08:39

My friend is at the race and saw the accident and said it was huge.

#3 Evo One

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 08:41

F1-live says that he was trapped in the car for 10 minutes - it looks bad :cry:

Hope he is OK.

#4 chester316

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 08:42

Jesus lets pray he's ok :(

#5 Dead Sexy

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 08:44

Anyone here get practice coverage and can capture? I don't understand how this accident could have occured / been so large

#6 chester316

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 08:49

Originally posted by Dead Sexy
Anyone here get practice coverage and can capture? I don't understand how this accident could have occured / been so large

he was supposedly exiting the tunnel and hit the armco then shot across an hit the wall on the otherside, they do go pretty fast through the tunnel

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 08:52

I hope he is alright! Please keep updating us guys :up:

#8 chester316

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 08:58

still no word :(

#9 chester316

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 09:02

this just in from f1-live.com
David Richards has stated on French TV that Jenson is okay and is under going checks. However, he doesn't know if the young Brit will be able to qualify this afternoon

#10 FERRARI WEAPON

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 09:08

Jesus, I wish this thread was a bad nightmare, because it feels like one.


Come on Button, be ok!!!!

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 09:15

David Richards has stated on French TV that Jenson is okay



That sounds good. :) Hopefully he's only bruised.

What if Button can't do the second qualifying? Does he start at the back on sunday or do BAR put Sato in the car?

#12 cozworth

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 09:17

What the latest on Jenson's condition? I hope that BAR tub has done its job.

#13 Dead Sexy

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 09:21

11:12 : Jenson was taken to the circuit medical centre before being taken to the Princess Grace hospital in Monaco. It is not known what caused the accident but it has been suggested that a suspension failure or a puncture made him lose control.
11:11 : Button's father was watching the incident from the BAR-Honda motorhome, and said he had been told by the team his son was in a good condition.
11:11 : Button is said to be fully conscious and in good condition. He is understood not to have broken any bones
11:10 : Now the second BAR of Jacques Villeneuve comes to a halt after nudging the barrier...no major damage thankfully, but his session is over

#14 rayyu882

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 09:25

Originally posted by Superbar


That sounds good. :) Hopefully he's only bruised.

What if Button can't do the second qualifying? Does he start at the back on sunday or do BAR put Sato in the car?


I think if Jenson is not racing on Sunday, then BAR can put Sato in the car. But if Jenson can race on Sunday but can't qualify today, then he will probably start in the pit lane!

#15 AdrianM

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 09:28

All reports suggest Jenson is okay. Lets hope he can run this afternoon :up:

#16 kodandaram

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 10:26

Firstly I an happy to hear that JB is okay . No bones broken as well - which is very good. Hopefully he has no concussion or haemorrage in the brain ....... Can't see him taking part in the afternoon quali though - the report suggests that the accident was huge ! :|

After I read the first line of this thread about DR spilling tears I was feeling very bad. But all is ok thankfully.

And as if that wasn't enough for BAR - JV nudged a barrier as well - someone said he had a difference of opinion with the barrier - very funny way to put it ...... :)

#17 Sir Frank

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 10:32

video

Its pretty slow though (6k/s), and Im still downloading, so take your time

#18 Sir Frank

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 10:35

Phew. how he hit those tyres sidewas with his helmet. Ouch!

#19 fifi

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 10:38

Originally posted by Sir Frank
video

Its pretty slow though (6k/s), and Im still downloading, so take your time


downloadig it now
thanks

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#20 mark f1

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 10:41

6 k/s, lightening speed......I'm getting 1.3!!!! :

#21 Sir Frank

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 10:43

Originally posted by mark f1
6 k/s, lightening speed......I'm getting 1.3!!!! :


Its started slowly but by the end it speeded up a lot!

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 11:25

Originally posted by rayyu882


if Jenson can race on Sunday but can't qualify today, then he will probably start in the pit lane!


According to pitpass that's so

We hear that Jenson Button will not take part in qualifying today.
The English youngster will have hydro-therapy treatment this afternoon, and then tomorrow will be given a medical examination by Sid Watkins. If he's given the all-clear he will be allowed to start the race from the back of the grid.
We understand that it is the sides of the cockpit that prevented serious injury, however Jenson's feet took a serious bruising in the crash.



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Posted 31 May 2003 - 11:27

BBC News reporting no qualifying for Jenson. Damn.

#24 TEquiLA

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 11:45

Originally posted by Dead Sexy
Anyone here get practice coverage and can capture? I don't understand how this accident could have occured / been so large


Yeah, seeing it after you know he's OK ain't that morbid.

Remember Taku last year with the team orders? It's pretty easy to have a huge crash if you hit the ARMCO and veer sideways, then you go and hit the walls.

What I've read so far is that he is OK but will miss qualifying.

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 11:48

If qualifying is his only problem, then thank goodness !

#26 clifford_chance

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 11:58

F1.com live timing shows no Button for qualifying.

#27 Williams

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 12:17

The team says he is suffering only from some nausea. Must have taken a few G's.

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 12:23

I am very happy to read that Jenson is going to be OK. I hope he is welll enough to race as BAR needs to finish better than 10th.

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 13:54

I haven't seen a replay of Button's accident. Has anyone heard any thing as to the cause of Button's accident. Was it a suspension faliure? Down to driver error? Button clipping the armco entering or exiting the tunnel?

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 13:58

On tv it looked quite bad, first impact was straight from the side. Maybe HANS device helped him survive?
Was the same accident as Karl Wendlinger, same place, same speed only side impact. Hope it doesn't end Jensons career, like wendlingers....

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 14:14

For AtlasF1 subscribers, if you look at this pic, it looks like Button has turned his steering wheel 90 degrees, but the front wheels are pointing almost straight ahead. Or is this just me?

http://www.atlasf1.c...-05-31T104854-4

#32 steeng

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 14:17

Originally posted by zengiman
On tv it looked quite bad, first impact was straight from the side. Maybe HANS device helped him survive?
Was the same accident as Karl Wendlinger, same place, same speed only side impact. Hope it doesn't end Jensons career, like wendlingers....


Wendlinger was in a coma for 18 days or so after his accident and never really was the same afterwards. ): Since Button never lost consciousness I don't think the accident will have any long term affect on him. I think the HANS probably did help Button in the crash.

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 14:20

Dammit, not the kind of news I want to read when I wake up in the morning.. :(

With a bit of good fortune, maybe we see him in the race tomorrow. If not, well let's hope two good weeks of taking it easy will get him on his feet for Montreal. :up:

#34 AdrianM

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 14:42

DR is saying Jenson could race tomorrow but I can't see it happening. From the photo's it seems a very heavy hit. He would have a very stiff neck tomorrow morning and 70 odd laps around Monaco would be very tough. I think Syd will stop him racing. Shame when he was going so well on Thursday. Hope he is back to full fitness for Montreal :up:

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 14:45

IIRC....most teams have their back-up driver present on Saturday...and then following quals they typically take off. This is why you usually see Wurz hanging around in the McLaren pits over the weekend...and then he flies out on Saturday.

I know B.A.R. ain't got a lot of cash....but this is the biggest race...and I'm REALLY surprised that Sato isn't on hand. How about this....go over to Irvine's yacht and get his butt in the car....

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 16:22

JB :( He was on such great pace this weekend :up: but then it all went horribly wrong. I was sooo disappointed for him, he was one of the stars of the weekend and made his part to make it all worth watching.

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 16:54

Originally posted by A3
[B]For AtlasF1 subscribers, if you look at this pic, it looks like Button has turned his steering wheel 90 degrees, but the front wheels are pointing almost straight ahead. Or is this just me?
/B]

Maybe they gave him Jacques wheel from Austria? ;) ;) ;)

#38 berlinetta

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 17:16

So Jenson boy is going to sit out the race tomorrow? :rolleyes:

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 17:38

The video is on f1onboard.com in the video archive. Much faster download. It's in slow-mo so it's hard to see how hard he hit the barrier to the right of the chicane. I don't think it looks like he hit it that hard, but the condition of the car tells me otherwise. He also exited the tunnel fine, so it's hard to tell where he lost it.

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 17:53

All indications from the interviews with Willis & Richard say Jenson will race tomorrow, but I'm flummoxed - where IS Sato & WHY is he there & not at Monaco? If Sato is a fair distance away, why didn't BAR bring Davidson as well just in case? They understandably want Button to race but they'll look a mite stupid if they only do end up having one BAR starting when they could've had 2, especially in a place that has a high attrition rate.
Probably all academic anyway, but a reserve driver, even if he has nowt to do, should be at the circuit as that is his "role"??

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 18:01

Originally posted by steeng
I haven't seen a replay of Button's accident. Has anyone heard any thing as to the cause of Button's accident. Was it a suspension faliure? Down to driver error? Button clipping the armco entering or exiting the tunnel?


Everything I've heard supports a driver error, I guess he clipped the wall on the right before losing control.

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 18:11

Originally posted by Richie Jenkins
All indications from the interviews with Willis & Richard say Jenson will race tomorrow, but I'm flummoxed - where IS Sato & WHY is he there & not at Monaco? If Sato is a fair distance away, why didn't BAR bring Davidson as well just in case? They understandably want Button to race but they'll look a mite stupid if they only do end up having one BAR starting when they could've had 2, especially in a place that has a high attrition rate.
Probably all academic anyway, but a reserve driver, even if he has nowt to do, should be at the circuit as that is his "role"??


I heard Sato is in London. It was said on Dutch TV that Richards said they didn't want to put the reserve driver in the car anyway, even if Button wouldn't be able to race tomorrow. They think Monaco takes too much time to get used to, besicly they didn't want to do that to Sato.

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 19:15

Originally posted by steeng


Since Button never lost consciousness I don't think the accident will have any long term affect on him. I think the HANS probably did help Button in the crash.


In the video he appeared to be completely still after the wreck, helmet down.
:confused:

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 19:26

The team says he is suffering only from some nausea. Must have taken a few G's.




Yes indeed, many g's. Nausea is also one of the most common symptons of suffering a concussion. I suspect this is the case. Racing the day after a concussion is not very wise. I hope BAR, Jenson, and the doctors make the right decision, and keep him out of Sunday's race.

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 19:31

Originally posted by Chris G.


In the video he appeared to be completely still after the wreck, helmet down.
:confused:

He was defenetly moving right after the impact.

/Viktor

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 19:57

The main thing is Button was not seriously hurt. I bet he was gagging to do Quals lol.

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 22:15

Hi Tania, hows Wales?
No point in Jenson racing tomorrow, not from 20th he'll be board shitless!

#48 Nikolas Garth

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 22:42

Originally posted by Bob Nomates
No point in Jenson racing tomorrow, not from 20th he'll be board shitless!

Dunno, if they fill his car to the brim AND he can get past both Minardi's . . . . .

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 22:48

Originally posted by Nikolas Garth
Dunno, if they fill his car to the brim AND he can get past both Minardi's . . . . .

No sense in that. They just need to fill it enough so that he can make the race in a single stop. With just 20 laps of fuel, he should be able to get by them. But perhaps his best bet would be to take on successive light fuel loads in hopes of a few safety car periods.


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Posted 01 June 2003 - 09:46

Originally posted by Wolbo
According to RTL+ Jenson Button will not take part in the GP today.


Not surprising. For sure the impact of an accident like this not felt until the next day.