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#51 David McKinney

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Posted 14 June 2003 - 05:50

Returning to NZ for a moment:
1971 Pukekohe
add (9) Frank Radisich (McLaren M10A)

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#52 David McKinney

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Posted 14 June 2003 - 08:17

1970
Levin

add:
9. Radisich
18. Matich
29. Oakley
The programme lists Stewart as 5, Bartlett as 6 and Williams as 38

Wigram
1. Grable
2. McRae
3. Campbell
5. Bartlett
6. Stewart
8. Watson
9. Radisich
10. Marwood
11. Smith
12. Robertson
14. Lawrence
16. Hughes
17. Norinder
20. Griffiths
23. Simpson
24. Phillips
26. Allen
33. Williams
39. Mardon
52. Dunlop
67. Baker
68. de Lore
77. Bell
96. Goth
152. Leonard

Teretonga
1. Grable
2. McRae
5. Bartlett
6. Stewart
9. Radisich
14. Lawrence
17. Norinder
33. Williams
96. Goth
plus ??

1971
Levin

add
80. McConnell

Wigram
1. Cannon
2. Amon (March)
3. Eyerley
4. Geoghegan
5. Bartlett
8. O’Sullivan
9. Radisich
10. Matich
11. Smith
12. Robertson
14. Lawrence
22. McRae
25. Oxton (Lotus)
26. Allen
27. Galloway
28. Brown
31. Gardner
32. Guthrie
34. Pilette
52. Dunlop
54. Mardon
55. Doyle
57. Faloon
64. Thomson
67. Rhodes
72. Noyes
80. McConnell

1972
Wigram

1. Gardner
2. Hailwood
3. Matich
5. Bartlett
6. Stewart
7. Noyes
10. Hobbs
11. Smith
12. Robertson
19. Oxton
22. McRae
28. Cooper
29. McCormack
30. McConnell
34. Pilette
60. Radisich
111. Francevic
152. Doyle

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Posted 14 June 2003 - 08:21

1973
Levin

add
23. Radisich

Wigram
1. Matich
3. Thomson
5. Bartlett
6. Stewart
7. Noyes
10. Brown
11. Smith
12. Robertson
14. Lawrence
15. Takahara
16. Heney
19. Oxton
21. Rollinson
22. McRae
23. Radisich
29. McCormack
30. McConnell
34. Posey
35. Williams
36. Cameron
52. Dunlop
89. Pederson
99. Doyle

Teretonga
6. Stewart
21. Rollinson
22. McRae
34. Posey
plus ???

1974
Wigram

1. McRae
2. Gethin
3. Pilette
4. McCormack
5. Bartlett
6. Stewart
7. Walker
8. Thomson
10. Brown
11. Smith
12. Robertson
14. Lawrence
15. Cook
16. Dunlop
17. Radisich
18. Oxton
19. Booth
20. Doyle
21. McCully
22. Pederson
23. Noble
24. Laney

Teretonga
1. McRae
6. Stewart
10. Brown
14. Lawrence
plus ???

1975
Levin

1. Amon
2. Brown
5. Bartlett
6. Stewart
7. Walker
8. Noyes
9. McCormack
11. Smith
12. Robertson
13. G Baker
14. Lawrence
15. Bray
17. Booth
19. Murdoch
22. McRae
23. M Baker
25. Doyle

Wigram
1. Amon
2. Brown
5. Bartlett
6. Stewart
7. Walker
8. Noyes
9. McCormack
11. Smith
12. Robertson
13. G Baker
14. Lawrence
15. Bray
17. Booth
19. Murdoch
22. McRae
24. M Baker
49. Laney
57. Doyle
69. Millen
97. David

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Posted 14 June 2003 - 14:51

It is quite nice :up: :up:

#55 David McKinney

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Posted 17 June 2003 - 14:09

Have come across a source for missing Teretonga numbers
1966
1 Clark
2 Attwood
3 Thackwell
4 Gardner
5 Marwood
6 Stewart
8 Buchanan
9 Hollier
11 Martin
12 Levis
14 Lawrence
15 Sager
17 Riley
25 Dawson
31 Caldwell
49 Gillum
69 Jensen
81 Smith
97 Rhodes

1970
1 Grable
2 McRae
3 Campbell
5 Stewart
6 Bartlett
8 Watson
9 Radisich
10 Marwood
11 Smith
14 Lawrence
15 Murdoch
17 Norinder
18 Matich
22 Boyd
23 Simpson
24 Phillips
26 Allen
33 Williams
39 Mardon
51 Taylor
57 Faloon
67 Baker
77 Bell
96 Goth

1971
1 Cannon
2 Eyerly
4 Geoghegan
5 Bartlett
9 Radisich
10 Matich
11 Smith
13 Francevic
14 Lawrence
22 McRae
25 Oxton
26 Allen
28 Brown
31 Gardner
32 Guthrie
34 Pilette
35 Taylor
52 Dunlop
54 Mardon
55 Doyle
57 Faloon
64 Thomson
72 Noyes
60 McConnell

#56 David McKinney

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Posted 17 June 2003 - 14:12

Teretonga continued
1972
2 Hailwood
3 Matich
5 Bartlett
6 Stewart
7 Noyes
10 Hobbs
11 Smith
12 Robertson
16 Hughes
19 Oxton
22 McRae
28 Cooper
29 McCormack
30 McConnell
34 Pilette
50 Radisich
60 Francevic
152 Doyle

1973
1 Matich
3 Thomson
5 Bartlett
6 Stewart
7 Noyes
10 Brown
11 Smith
12 Robertson
14 Lawrence
15 Takahara
19 Oxton
21 Rollinson
22 McRae
23 Radisich
29 McCormack
30 McConnell
34 Posey
36 Cameron
52 Dunlop
89 Pederson
99 Doyle

1974
1 McRae
2 Gethin
3 Pilette
4 McCormack
6 Stewart
7 Walker
8 Thomson
10 Brown
11 Smith
12 Robertson
14 Lawrence
15 Cook
16 Dunlop
18 Oxton
19 Booth
20 Doyle
21 McCully
22 Pederson
23 Noble

1975
1 Amon
2 Brown
5 Bartlett
6 Stewart
7 Walker
8 Noyes
9 McCormack
11 Smith
12 Robertson
13 Baker
14 Lawrence
15 Bray
17 Booth
22 McRae
25 Doyle
69 Millen
97 David

#57 Allen Brown

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Posted 17 June 2003 - 16:13

Fantastic!! Except that this is hours and hours or work ahead.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

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Posted 18 June 2003 - 07:50

Originally posted by Allen Brown
Fantastic!! Except that this is hours and hours or work ahead.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

ditto... :( :D

#59 Bernd

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 03:00

Lets shoot back across the Tasman for a moment.
My lists for the Aussie rounds are sadly lacking at the moment.

Warwick Farm 1965

1. G. Hill
2. Grant
3. Matich
4. Brabham
5. Palmer
6. Stillwell
7. Gardner
8. Davison
18. Cusack
19. McClelland
20. Walker
21. Levis
22. Collerson
10. McLaren
11. P. Hill
12. Tresise
14. Glass
15. Patterson
23. Hunnam
9. Clark
16. Geoghegan
17. Scott

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#60 Bernd

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Posted 20 June 2003 - 04:14

Just noticed that Wigram 68 was missing. For once I can help you guys!!!

Lady Wigram Trophy 1968

1. McLaren
2. Rodriguez
3. Hulme
4. Amon
5. Dawson
6. Clark
7. Gardner
8. Courage
9. Hawthorne
10. Yock
11. Smith
12. Shaw
14. Lawrence
15. Bolton
17. Anderson
18. Oxton
19. Nicholson
20. Brownlie
23. Batchelor
24. Stone
29. McDonald
31. Francevic
33. Kennedy
34. Jones
36. McRae
41. Palmer
56. Harvey
57. Faloon
91. Radisich
145. Keen

#61 Bernd

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Posted 07 July 2003 - 05:43

I was up to them and noticed they weren't listed here.

Australian Grand Prix : Warwick Farm 1967

1. Brabham
2. Hulme
3. Stewart
4. Irwin
5. Hill
6. Clark
7. Bartlett
8. Gardner
9. Martin
10. Harvey
11. Geoghegan
12. O'Sullivan
14. Cusack
15. Bolton
18. Champion
19. Cook
20. Scott
21. McEwin
22. Hunnam

Lakeside International '99' 1967

1. Brabham
2. Hulme
3. Stewart
4. Courage
6. Clark
7. Bartlett
8. Gardner
9. Martin
10. Harvey
11. Geoghegan
12. O'Sullivan
14. Cusack
18. Champion
19. I. Cook
20. Scott
21. McEwin
23. Levis
24. Volkers
25. Boddenberg
26. R. Cook
27. Rainsford

#62 humphries

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Posted 07 July 2003 - 09:35

A big thank you for all the information supplied by David, Milan and Bernd. If ever our sport is going to be fully documented it needs to be done sooner than later. I know of so much information that has been destroyed or is missing.

If you can keep it coming especially for the pre-1964 races that would be mighty useful. But give some people an inch and they'll want a mile! Do you have the race entries for the Waimate 50, the Renwick 50 and the Timaru Trophy races?

In passing, David, I have bought a copy of your 250F book and will buy any books by Milan and Bernd in the future!! Promise.

John

#63 Allen Brown

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Posted 07 July 2003 - 12:45

Originally posted by humphries
... Do you have the race entries for the Waimate 50, the Renwick 50 and the Timaru Trophy races?...

JOhn

Don't forget to ask them for Australian Gold Star entry lists too. I would but I'm too shy.

Allen

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Posted 08 July 2003 - 03:03

Warwick Farm International '100' 1968

1. Hulme
2. Brabham
3. Harvey
4. Amon
5. Hill
6. Clark
7. Cusack
8. Gardner
9. Bartlett
10. Geoghegan
11. Rodriguez
12. Attwood
17. Gibson
18. Courage
19. Stewart
20. Scott
21. Fergusson
22. Costanzo
23. Page

The South Pacific Trophy - Longford 1968

1. Hulme
3. Harvey/Cook
4. Amon
5. Hill
6. Clark
7. Cusack
8. Gardner
9. Bartlett
11. Rodriguez
12. Attwood
16. McEwin
17. Gibson/Allen
18. Courage
66. McCormack

John the chances of me writing a book on Motor Racing are slimmer than a heroin chic supermodel.

Allen, Oh no I'm not touching those with a forty foot pole.

#65 Ray Bell

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Posted 08 July 2003 - 09:44

Selected Gold Star events shouldn't be too hard, Allen... like the Farm, Caversham, Mallala, Longford (hmmm... perhaps?), Bathurst.

But others (Lowood, Gnoo Blas, Oran Park, Surfers, Lakeside, AIR...) I think might take some finding.

#66 Allen Brown

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Posted 08 July 2003 - 18:42

Originally posted by Ray Bell
Selected Gold Star events shouldn't be too hard, Allen... like the Farm, Caversham, Mallala, Longford (hmmm... perhaps?), Bathurst.

But others (Lowood, Gnoo Blas, Oran Park, Surfers, Lakeside, AIR...) I think might take some finding.

Even selected Gold Stars would be great. I may be the only one here actively working on Aussie Gold Star so - if nobody minds - may I suggest that from 1971 onwards would be my priority. I'm doing the 1971 series from RCN reports at the moment and entry lists (even one) would make life a lot easier. Was any other publication covering Gold Star in any depth in those days?

Mallala seemed to attact the real oddities (like the Cicada) so I'm glad you mention that one. Warwick Farm seems to have got some of the largest entries so that should give me a lot of what I need.

Many thanks

Allen

#67 Ray Bell

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Posted 08 July 2003 - 20:02

You'll readily see that most of the bigger names kept the same number throughout in that era...

The Sporting Car Club of South Australia will be sure to have copies of all Mallala programmes. Possibly AIR too, which will cover the period of your interest.

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 00:43

Here's the rest of Sandown for the 2.5 Litre era.

Sandown International 1965

1. Hill G.
2. Grant
3. Matich
4. Brabham
5. Palmer
6. Stillwell
7. Gardner
8. Davison
9. Clark
10. McLaren
11. Hill P.
12. Tresise
14. Glass
15. Patterson/McDonald
20. Mitchell
25. Brown
26. Fraser
27. Osborne

1.5 Litre Class

16. Geoghegan
17. Scott
18. Cusack
19. McLelland
21. Levis
22. Collerson
23. Hunnam
24. McEwin
37. Ampt
40. Howard
44. Clay
49. Cooper
28. Rilstone
29. Jane

Sandown International 1966

1. Clark
2. Hill
3. Stewart
4. Attwood
5. Brabham
6. Gardner
7. Martin
8. Palmer
9. McDonald
10. O'Sullivan
11. Buchanan
12. Fraser

1.5 Litre Class

14. Geoghegan
15. Jane
16. Harvey
18. McEwin
20. Bartlett
24. Cook
29. Bolton
36. Howard
37. Cusack
38. McNamara

Sandown International 1967

1. Brabham
2. Hulme
3. Stewart
4. Irwin
5. Courage
6. Clark
7. Gardner
8. Bartlett
9. Martin
10. Harvey
11. Geoghegan
12. O'Sullivan
15. Bolton
60. Fraser

1.5 Litre Class

16. McEwin
20. Scott
21. Cook
24. Fenwick
25. Macrow
28. Champion
30. Hunnam
36. Wraith
39. Collins
41. Rainsford
45. Boddenberg
50. Millis
52. Walker
40. Volkers

XXXIII Australian Grand Prix
Sandown International 1968

1. Hulme
2. Brabham
3. Harvey
4. Amon
5. Hill
6. Clark
7. Cusack
8. Gardner
9. Bartlett
10. Geoghegan
11. Rodriguez
12. Attwood
17. Gibson
18. Courage
24. Vercoe

Sandown International 1969

1. Hill
2. Rindt
3. Amon
4. Bell
5. Courage
6. Gardner
7. Geoghegan
8. Bartlett
9. Brabham
15. Harvey
17. Grenn
19. Tapp
21. Fraser

Formula 2

10. Allen
11. Matich
12. Cooper
14. Lawrence
16. Woelders
18. Costanzo
20. Scott
25. Macrow
33. Grayson
50. Millis
51. Bekker
53. Perry
58. Quincy
62. Stewart
80. Guthrie
85. Levis

#69 Wuzak

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 01:16

There is an interesting site on the Tasman Series between 1964 and 1969.

http://www.tasman-series.com

It is not complete, and hasn't any results for 1968 or 1969.

It does have reports and fields (including numbers) from the other years.

#70 Bernd

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 01:18

Erm that's my site mate :wave:

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 01:23

Originally posted by Bernd
Erm that's my site mate :wave:


Sorry - didn't realise.

Pretty cool site. :D

#72 Bernd

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 01:26

Perhaps I should put the address in my signature or something like that.

I'm currently working on the 68 & 69 reviews but it'll be a while yet.

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 01:29

Originally posted by Bernd
Perhaps I should put the address in my signature or something like that.

I'm currently working on the 68 & 69 reviews but it'll be a while yet.


Hard to find them?

#74 Bernd

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 01:38

No, but it is hard to find time to put them together :|

#75 Ray Bell

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 01:40

Graysono?

McNamara?

Well, there's a nice recommendation for your site, Bernd!

#76 Bernd

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 01:44

M. McNamara from South Australia driving an Elfin Catalina.

Graysono is a typo. Max Grayson was driving an Elfin Mono.

Scan those 3 reports when you find time Ray, if I can find some bloody time I'll need em.

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 05:38

1967.. Should Boddenber be Boddenberg? I seem to think so.

#78 Ray Bell

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 06:50

Yes, that's Alton Boddenberg from Gosford... raced a Valiant for a while then bought Leo Geoghegan's Lotus 32.

And in 1969, Col Green spelled his name like that... actually, I think that was the meeting I got a lift back to Sydney with his car. 1968 was the precious trip where that idiot Albert Jones blew a head gasket as I tried to sleep... I told him not to go past Violet town without stopping, as we pulled into Benalla I woke up and he told me we hadn't been through Violet Town!

I think the rims of his glasses were too thick!

At least the replacement gasket was cheap... it was a used one out of the local hearse...

#79 Bernd

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Posted 07 January 2004 - 01:50

Quick Question

Amon/Bell '69 who/what was their entrant in the NZ rounds?

**Edit** Also Rindts new chassis for Wigram (from memory R10) Should it be classified as a 49TB or 49B?

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#80 David McKinney

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Posted 07 January 2004 - 06:41

The Pukekohe, Wigram and Teretonga programmes list Amon's and Bell's entrant as "Ferrari Works". The Levin programme did not list entrants in those days
On the Lotus 49 matter, I have always listed the Tasman cars as 49s or 49Bs, as the 'T' suffix meant little more than the fact that the cars used a 2.5, rather than 3.0, engine (which we should be able to work out for ourselves!)

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Posted 07 January 2004 - 23:19

Many thanks David.
I had two sources one claiming Scuderia Ferrari and other C. Amon.

49B it is!

**Edit** Actually sorry to be a bother but is the Lotus entry 'World Wide Racing'? It was in OZ.

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Posted 10 January 2004 - 23:32

Any news on Surfers Paradise 1968?

#83 Bernd

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Posted 11 January 2004 - 04:22

Surfers is one of the Programmes I'm missing Dave and I haven't come across anyone whom has one either.

#84 David Shaw

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Posted 11 January 2004 - 05:53

No worries, thanks Jamo. I just thought that someone may have sourced one by now and forgotten to update this thread.

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Posted 17 February 2004 - 11:00

I finally found a source :up:

Rothmans International '100' Surfers Paradise 1968

1. Hulme
4. Amon
5. Hill
6. Clark
7. Cusack
8. Gardner
9. Bartlett
10. Geoghegan
11. Rodriguez
12. Attwood
17. Gibson
18. Courage

1500cc

20. Scott
21. Boddenberg
22. Page
39. Alfred
61. Thompson
88. Power

#86 Ray Bell

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 12:22

Originally posted by Bernd
.....20. Scott
21. Boddenberg
22. Page
39. Alfred
61. Thompson
88. Power


I guess that would be a very optimistic Malcolm Aldred?

The car would be an MRC, wouldn't it?

#87 Bernd

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 22:03

Damn Ray you are good at picking up my typos.

39. Malcolm Aldred - Motor Racing Components - M.R.C 22 (Modified Lotus 22) - Ford 1.5L - Cream/Blue

Happy now :)

#88 David McKinney

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 22:32

I'm sure Ray will straighten us out
But wasn't an MRC a Lotus copy rather than a modified Lotus?

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 22:53

I'm not entirely certain but from what I can gather it was a locally built extensively modified Lotus.

#90 Ray Bell

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Posted 19 February 2004 - 07:00

Originally posted by David McKinney
I'm sure Ray will straighten us out
But wasn't an MRC a Lotus copy rather than a modified Lotus?


The name 'Rennmax' springs to mind...

It was the car he bought from Mr MRC himself, the well known purchaser of fine 'ready to be renamed' chassis from Bob Britton... Lionel Ayers. Even retained Lionel's striping pattern. But he was still an optimist...

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Posted 19 February 2004 - 07:59

I gather you're saying it was a Lotus copy (by Rennmax), not a modified Lotus?

#92 Ray Bell

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Posted 20 February 2004 - 19:14

That's right... all of Lionel's MRCs (Motor Racing Components) were Rennmaxes of some kind or another. He also had a Lotus 23 replica and a Rennmax sports car that he ran under that name.

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Posted 02 April 2004 - 03:09

Warwick Farm International 1969

1. Hill
2. Rindt
3. Amon
4. Bell
5. Courage
6. Gardner
7. Green
8. Bartlett
10. Geoghegan
11. Harvey

Formula 2 1600cc

12. Allen
15. Guthrie
16. Levis
17. Lawrence
18. Costanzo
19. Stewart
20. Scott
21. Millis

If anyone has the 1969 AGP Programme (Lakeside) could you please PM me as I'm missing details for this race.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 18:23

Originally posted by humphries
A big thank you for all the information supplied by David, Milan and Bernd. If ever our sport is going to be fully documented it needs to be done sooner than later. I know of so much information that has been destroyed or is missing.

If you can keep it coming especially for the pre-1964 races that would be mighty useful. But give some people an inch and they'll want a mile! Do you have the race entries for the Waimate 50, the Renwick 50 and the Timaru Trophy races?

In passing, David, I have bought a copy of your 250F book and will buy any books by Milan and Bernd in the future!! Promise.

John


I have just been given a quite a few photo's of the NZ 1964 season including pictures from the Nov 1963 Renwick 50 race...this seems the most appropriate place to ask if anyone has a list of car numbers for this race? So far in my efforts to identify cars and drivers I have Palmer's Cooper T53 #41 and Shelly Lotus 18/21 #10. Gary Bremer's Jaguar D-type is also pretty easy to identify...of particular interest to me is what number did Andy Buchanan carry?

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 21:13

As listed in programme:
2 A A Buchanan (Brabham-Ford 1594)
9 W J Thomasen (Cooper-Climax 1960)
10 A L Shelly (Lotus-Climax 2495)
14 P M S Slocombe (Lotus-Ford 18 998)
17 M F Stanton (Stanton-Corvette 4932)
20 J C N Histed (Lola-Ford 1475)
25 R J Flowers (Lotus-Ford 1475)
26 D G Young (Cooper-Ford 1498)
32 R A Levis (Cooper-Ford 1475)
33 B E Porter (Lotus-Climax XV 1960)
36 J Riley (Lola-Ford 1498)
41 K J Palmer (Cooper-Climax 2495)
44 G E B Thomas (Gemini-Ford 1340)
additions to programme:
45 D Hollier (Cooper-Ford 1475) - in place of Levis
46 G F Bremer (Jaguar D 3781)
49 I W Dawson (Lola-Climax 1220)

#96 rosemeyer

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 23:40

This could be merged into the Amon thread

#97 David McKinney

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Posted 13 April 2005 - 04:57

Heaven forbid :down:

#98 mctshirt

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Posted 13 April 2005 - 08:10

Thank you again David. That is an enormous help but there is one car that doesn't appear in that list but the picture seems to be taken in the Renwick pits...any idea? The licence plate in the nose is: 706.84?

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Another thing is the Lotus rocker covers on what appears to be the Shelly Lotus Climax engine...was this normal or have I got the picture mixed up with another car/engine?

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#99 Ray Bell

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Posted 13 April 2005 - 09:14

Originally posted by mctshirt
.....Another thing is the Lotus rocker covers on what appears to be the Shelly Lotus Climax engine...was this normal or have I got the picture mixed up with another car/engine?

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That's a Ford twin cam engine in that car... I don't think Shelly ever raced with one of those... I'd plump for old Roly with that. Or Young's Cooper or Histed's Lola... the chassis doesn't look very Lotus or Brabham.

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#100 David McKinney

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Posted 13 April 2005 - 09:16

Buchanan's Brabham had Lotus cam-covers on its engine

Can't help with your unidentified car - I never noted reg numbers until permanent plates came in (in 1964). Might it be a contestant in one of the other races? Are you able to post a scan?