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[esorniloc]

Does anyone have a list of races and winners in the Italian F3 series from the early-mid 80's to 1991?

I know that from 92 onwards they are in Autocourse, but not sure how far back Autocourse gives the info.

[Alexey Rogachev]

Pro Formula Pages by Seppo Pitkanen

[esorniloc]

Sorry I can't seem to find the results from that far back on `Pro Formula Pages by Seppo Pitkanen'.

Anyone else got any ideas?

[Milan Fistonic]

Does anyone have copies of Almanacco Illustrato Dell'Automobilismo.

They have full grids and results.

I only have the 1989 edition.

1988 Campionato Italiano F3

Vallelunga. Antonio Tambrini, Dallara 388-Alfa Romeo
Magione. Mauro Martini, Dallara 388-Alfa Romeo
Misano. Mauro Martini, Dallara 388-Alfa Romeo
Varano. Emanuele Naspetti, Dallara 388-Alfa Romeo
Mugello. Fabrizio Giovanardi, Reynard 883- Alfa Romeo
Monza. Rinaldo Capelli, Dallara 388-Alfa Romeo
Pergusa. Gianni Morbidelli, Dallara 388-Alfa Romeo
Misano. Emanuele Naspetti, Dallara 388-Alfa Romeo
Monza. Emanuele Naspetti, Dallara 388-Alfa Romeo
Mugello. Felice Tedeschi, Dallara 388-Alfa Romeo
Vallelunga. Mauro Martini, Dallara 388-Alfa Romeo
Imola. Fabrizio Giovanardi, Reynard 883-Alfa Romeo

[esorniloc]

Thank you Milan Fistonic for the 88 results.

[David T.]

Rinaldo Capello, not Capelli. Guess who is he? The now famous endurance racer "Dindo" Capello...! The world is small.

[Rob Ryder]

Hope this helps Colin ...

Format... Date, Round, Circuit, Winner, Car

1990
01/04/90,01,Vallelunga,Roberto Colciago,Reynard 903 Alfa Romeo
15/04/90,02,Enna-Pergusa,Giambattista Busi,Dallara 390 VW
29/04/90,03,Magione,Roberto Colciago,Reynard 903 Alfa Romeo
13/05/90,04,Varano,Alex Zanardi,Dallara 390 Alfa Romeo
17/06/90,05,Imola,Mika Hakkinen,Ralt RT34 Mugen Honda
24/06/90,06,Monza,Mauro Martini,Dallara 390 Alfa Romeo
08/07/90,07,Binetto,Giuseppe Bugatti,Reynard 903 Alfa Romeo
28/07/90,08,Misano,Mirko Savoldi,Dallara 390 Alfa Romeo
02/09/90,09,Monza,Max Angelelli,Dallara 390 Alfa Romeo
16/09/90,10,Varano,Roberto Colciago,Reynard 903 Alfa Romeo
07/10/90,11,Vallelunga,Alex Zanardi,Dallara 390 Alfa Romeo
21/10/90,12,Vallelunga,Luca Badoer,Ralt RT33 Alfa Romeo

1991
31/03/91,01,Misano,Giambattista Busi,Dallara 391 VW
14/04/91,02,Binetto,Max Papis,Dallara 391 Alfa Romeo
21/04/91,03,Enna-Pergusa,Andrea Gilardi,Dallara 391 VW
05/05/91,04,Vallelunga,Giambattista Busi,Dallara 391 VW
19/05/91,05,Magione,Mimmo Schiattarella,Ralt RT35 Alfa Romeo
02/06/91,06,Imola,Luca Badoer,Dallara 391 Alfa Romeo
15/06/91,07,Varano,Luca Badoer,Dallara 391 Alfa Romeo
30/06/91,08,Monza,Luca Badoer,Dallara 391 Alfa Romeo
14/07/91,09,Mugello,Andrea Gilardi,Dallara 391 VW
01/09/91,10,Monza,Max Papis,Dallara 391 Alfa Romeo
15/09/91,11,Mugello,Mimmo Schiattarella,Ralt RT35 Alfa Romeo
06/10/91,12,VallelungaAndrea Gilardi,Dallara 391 VW

Rob

[esorniloc]

Thanks Rob, its very helpful.

[arcsine]

A lot of familiar names there.
Was the Italian F3 championship more significant then than it is now? Fisichella won the Italian F3 championship - has the series thrown up anyone of note since then?

What about other 'second division' F3 series - did anyone familiar win races in French F3 in the late eighties/early nineties?

[esorniloc]

Originally posted by arcsine

What about other 'second division' F3 series - did anyone familiar win races in French F3 in the late eighties/early nineties?

Lagorce and Boullion won races in 92 French F3 series while Minassian won races in 94. For race winners of the French F3 champion see the F3 section of my website, it has the winners since 1992. I don't have any data before 92 though, can anyone else help here?

[Rob Ryder]

Originally posted by esorniloc
I don't have any data before 92 though, can anyone else help here?

Colin.. watch your mailbox ;)

[Rob Ryder]

Originally posted by arcsine
What about other 'second division' F3 series - did anyone familiar win races in French F3 in the late eighties/early nineties?

Jean Alesi won the French Championship in 1987
Jean-Marc Gounon won the French Championship in 1989
Laurent Aiello won 3 French Championship races in 1990
Olivier Panis won 4 French Championship races in 1991

Someone called Michael Schumacher ;) won the German Championship in 1990
Jos Verstappen won the German Championship in 1993...

Rob

[Piet Ram]

Dear friends,

Herewith some results of the Italian F3 serie.
If someone can fill in the data of the races and eventual some other gaps it would be great.
Is there someone in our club who have some results before 1985?

1984
Round 1, WALTER VOULAZ, Automotor Racing RALT Volkswagen RT 3
MUGELLO, FRANCO FORINI, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 384
MISANO
Round 4
MUGELLO
MAGIONE
Round 7
Round 8
VARANO, ALEX CAFFI, Team Coloni RALT Alfa Romeo RT 3
VALLELUNGA, ALESSANDRO SANTIN, Team Coloni RALT Alfa Romeo RT 3
IMOLA, FRANCO FORINI, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 384
VALLELUNGA, GIANFRANCO TACCHINO, Automotor Racing RALT Volkswagen RT 3

1985
VALLELUNGA, FABRIZIO BARBAZZA, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 385
MISANO, MARCO APICELLA, Coperchini Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 853
VARANO, LUIS PEREZ SALA, Team Pavesi RALT Alfa Romeo RT 3
MUGELLO, FRANCO FORINI, Forti Corse DALLARA Volkswagen 385
MONZA, FABRIZIO BARBAZZA, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 385
MAGIONE, FABRIZIO BARBAZZA, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 385
IMOLA, FRANCO FORINI, Forti Corse DALLARA Volkswagen 385
MONZA, FRANCO FORINI, Forti Corse DALLARA Volkswagen 385
PERGUSA, ALEX CAFFI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 385
MUGELLO, FRANCO FORINI, Forti Corse DALLARA Volkswagen 385
?, FABRIZIO BARBAZZA, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 385
MISANO, MARCO APICELLA, Coperchini Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 853
?, FRANCO FORINI, Forti Corse DALLARA Volkswagen 385
VALLELUNGA, ALEX CAFFI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 385

1986
VALLELUNGA, MARCO APICELLA, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
IMOLA, MARCO APICELLA, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
MAGIONE, STEFANO MODENA, Team Seresina REYNARD Alfa Romeo 863
VARANO, STEFANO MODENA, Team Seresina REYNARD Alfa Romeo 863
MONZA, NICOLA LARINI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
IMOLA, MARCO APICELLA, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
MONZA, NICOLA LARINI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
MUGELLO, NICOLA LARINI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
PERGUSA, NICOLA LARINI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
MISANO, ALEX CAFFI, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
MONZA, NICOLA LARINI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
PERGUSA, ALEX CAFFI, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
VALLELUNGA, MICHELE MINUTOLO, DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
VARANO, STEFANO MODENA, Team Seresina REYNARD Alfa Romeo 863

1987
MAGIONE, ANDREA CHIESA, Euroracing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
VALLELUNGA, ANDREA CHIESA, Euroracing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
MISANO, ENRICO BERTAGGIA, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
MUGELLO, ANDREA CHIESA, Euroracing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
VARANO, ENRICO BERTAGGIA, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
MONZA, ENRICO BERTAGGIA, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
PERGUSA, EUGENIO VISCO, Euroteam REYNARD Alfa Romeo 873
MISANO, MAURO MARTINI, Coperchini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
MONZA, ENRICO BERTAGGIA, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
IMOLA, ALBERTO APICELLA, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
VALLELUNGA, RINALDO CAPELLO, Coloni Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 873
MUGELLO, ROBERTO COLCIAGO, Coperchini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387

1988
VALLELUNGA, ANTONIO TAMBURINI, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
MAGIONE, MAURO MARTINI, Coperchini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
MISANO, MAURO MARTINI, Coperchini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
VARANO, EMANUELE NASPETTI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
MUGELLO, FABRIZIO GIOVANARDI, PreMa Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 883
MONZA, RINALDO CAPELLO, Ravarotto DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
PERGUSA, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
MISANO, EMANUELE NASPETTI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
MONZA, EMANUELE NASPETTI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
MUGELLO, FELICE TEDESCHINI, Trivelatto DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
VALLELUNGA, MAURO MARTINI, Coperchini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
IMOLA, FABRIZIO GIOVANARDI, PreMa Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 883

1989
VALLELUNGA, ANTONIO TAMBURINI, PreMa Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 893
MAGIONE, ANTONIO TAMBURINI, PreMa Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 893
VARANO, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
PERGUSA, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
MONZA, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
VALLELUNGA, EUGENIO VISCO, EC Motorsport DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
MISANO, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
MISANO, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
MONZA, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
IMOLA, ANTONIO TAMBURINI, PreMa Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 893
VALLELUNGA, ANDREA MONTERMINI, Euroteam REYNARD Alfa Romeo 893

[Gert]

1987
MAGIONE, ANDREA CHIESA, Euroracing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
VALLELUNGA, ANDREA CHIESA, Euroracing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
26/04/1987 , MISANO, ENRICO BERTAGGIA, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
MUGELLO, ANDREA CHIESA, Euroracing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
VARANO, ENRICO BERTAGGIA, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
MONZA, ENRICO BERTAGGIA, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
PERGUSA, EUGENIO VISCO, Euroteam REYNARD Alfa Romeo 873
09/08/1987 , MISANO, MAURO MARTINI, Coperchini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
30/08/1987 , MONZA, ENRICO BERTAGGIA, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
13/09/1987 , IMOLA, ALBERTO APICELLA, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387
27/09/1987 , VALLELUNGA, RINALDO CAPELLO, Coloni Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 873
25/10/1987 , MUGELLO, ROBERTO COLCIAGO, Coperchini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387


(*) For the Varano race I have found the following result:
07/06/1987 , VARANO, MASSIMO MONTI, Team Farnoti, RALT Volkswagen RT31
second place ENRICO BERTAGGIA, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387

I don't know if it's the same race and if perhaps Monti was disqualified afterwards?

[Gert]

1988
27/03/1988 , VALLELUNGA, ANTONIO TAMBURINI, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
17/04/1988 , MAGIONE, MAURO MARTINI, Coperchini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
24/04/1988 , MISANO, MAURO MARTINI, Coperchini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
08/08/1988 , VARANO, EMANUELE NASPETTI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
MUGELLO, FABRIZIO GIOVANARDI, PreMa Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 883
MONZA, RINALDO CAPELLO, Ravarotto DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
PERGUSA, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
MISANO, EMANUELE NASPETTI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
MONZA, EMANUELE NASPETTI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
08/09/1988 , MUGELLO, FELICE TEDESCHINI, Trivelatto DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
VALLELUNGA, MAURO MARTINI, Coperchini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
IMOLA, FABRIZIO GIOVANARDI, PreMa Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 883

(*)
MUGELLO, FELICE TEDESCHI, Trivelatto DALLARA Alfa Romeo 388
I had his name recorded as Tedeschi, not Tedeschini

[Gert]

1986
VALLELUNGA, MARCO APICELLA, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
IMOLA, MARCO APICELLA, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386 (*)
04/05/1986, MAGIONE, STEFANO MODENA, Team Seresina REYNARD Alfa Romeo 863
18/05/1986, VARANO, STEFANO MODENA, Team Seresina REYNARD Alfa Romeo 863
01/06/1986, MONZA, NICOLA LARINI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
15/06/1986, IMOLA, MARCO APICELLA, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
29/06/1986, MONZA, NICOLA LARINI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
13/07/1986, MUGELLO, NICOLA LARINI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
PERGUSA, NICOLA LARINI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
MISANO, ALEX CAFFI, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
31/08/1986, MONZA, NICOLA LARINI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
PERGUSA, ALEX CAFFI, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
28/09/1986, VALLELUNGA, MICHELE MINUTOLO, DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
05/10/1986, VARANO, STEFANO MODENA, Team Seresina REYNARD Alfa Romeo 863

(*)
According to my sources (Sport-Auto, French magazine), the 2nd round took place at Misano, not Imola.
There was a (non-championship) race at Imola (in the F1 weekend), which was won by Alex Caffi

20/04/1986 , MISANO, MARCO APICELLA, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
NC : IMOLA, ALEX CAFFI, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386

There was also a non-championship round at Monza on 06/09/1986, won by Stefano Modena in a REYNARD Alfa Romeo 863

[Gert]

1989
02/04/1989 , VALLELUNGA, ANTONIO TAMBURINI, PreMa Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 893
16/04/1989 , MAGIONE, ANTONIO TAMBURINI, PreMa Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 893
14/05/1989 , VARANO, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
28/05/1989 , PERGUSA, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
MONZA, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
VALLELUNGA, EUGENIO VISCO, EC Motorsport DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
30/07/1989 , MISANO, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
30/08/1989 , MISANO, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
MONZA, GIANNI MORBIDELLI, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 389
IMOLA, ANTONIO TAMBURINI, PreMa Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 893
08/10/1989 , VALLELUNGA, ANDREA MONTERMINI, Euroteam REYNARD Alfa Romeo 893

[Piet Ram]

Gert,

Thanks for your reply.

[Gert]

Forgot to think about it, but ...
The information you're looking for is probably available in Jimmy Piget's excellent Booklet!

Maybe not in the printed vesion, but IIRC it's all in the electronic version...
Don't have it with me at the moment, so I can't tell for sure...

I don't know if there available on 'the net', but Jimmy kindly mailed the electronic versions to a great number of TNF'ers, so if you ask him kindly, maybe you can get one as well?

Gert.

[nigel red5]

I've recently managed to get hold of the 1985 Italian F3 support race, at Monza, and that's brought me here after a good search round.

Thanks to the excellent lists provided above, i've established that Franco Forini won the race, and i know that the likes of Amati, and Bertaggia were in the race as well.

Does anyone have the race results for this event?, or a list of the entrants. I tried the link in the early posts but that had no further information.

[sat]

1985 Italian F3 support race

what do you mean?

Forini wom race at Monza 30.6.1985 (27. GP Lotteria di Monza)
and 7.9.1985 (1. Trofeo Monza F3)

Results of second race:

1. Dallara F385-VW Franco Forini
2. Ralt RT30-Alfa Romeo Luis Perez Sala
3. Ralt RT30-VW Franco Scapini
4. Ralt RT30-Alfa Romeo Enrico Bertaggia
5. Ralt RT30-Alfa Romeo Giovanna Amati
6. Dallara F385-VW Claudio Antonioli
7. Ralt RT30-Alfa Romeo Gianfranco Tacchino
8. Ralt RT30-VW Rinaldo Capello
9. Dallara F385-Alfa Romeo Eugenio Visco
10. Ralt RT30-Alfa Romeo Andrea Chiesa
11. Ralt RT30-VW Marco Melito
12. Martini Mk45-Alfa Romeo Nicola Marozzo
13. Martini Mk45-Alfa Romeo Ermanno Alboreto
14. Ralt RT30-Alfa Romeo Luca Maggiorelli
15. Ralt RT3-Alfa Romeo Carlo Guggia
16. Dallara F385-Alfa Romeo Alex Caffi
17. Ralt RT3-Alfa Romeo Ernesto Catella
18. Reynard 853-Alfa Romeo Marco Apicella
19. Martini Mk45-Alfa Romeo Nicola Larini
20. Dallara F385-Alfa Romeo Fabrizio Barbazza
21. Arno 03-385-Alfa Romeo Paolo Delle Piane
22. Ralt RT30-Alfa Romeo Stefano Modena
23. Ralt RT3-Alfa Romeo Mario Pelloni
DNF Ralt RT30-VW Giorgio Montaldo
Ralt RT30-Alfa Romeo Roberto Ravaglia
Ralt RT30-Alfa Romeo Luis Villamil
Ralt RT30-VW Felice Tedeschi
Wainer-Alfa Romeo Oscar Larrauri
Arno 03-385-Alfa Romeo Giovanni Lavaggi
DNS Ralt RT3-Alfa Romeo Alessandro Aghemio

some other interesting names by the way...

[nigel red5]

sat,
That is exactly what i was looking for! My bad, yes, i should have said the 1985 Italian GP support race. Marvellous, thanks very much for posting this.

[HistoryFan]

I searches the championship table of the 1976 Formula Three championship, with the points, teams, cars (with engines). Champion was Riccardo Patrese with a March Toyota from Trivellato Racing. But then?

I hope someone can help me!

[fines]

Originally posted by sat


what do you mean?

Forini wom race at Monza 30.6.1985 (27. GP Lotteria di Monza)
and 7.9.1985 (1. Trofeo Monza F3)

Results of second race:

An interesting titbit from my time away, thank you sat! Perhaps you can also help me with a query I had many years ago about the 1986 Italian GP F3 support race (Sep 6)???? The only thing I was able to establish back then was that the race apparently took place, as an Italian magazine deemed it "interesting", but failed to mention who won it (apart from anything else)! :

[fines]

Originally posted by sat
some other interesting names by the way...

... and quite puzzling that so many of the better known drivers rank so far back! The winners of the last two championship rounds in 18th and 20th position - what's the story?

[fines]

Originally posted by Gert
According to my sources (Sport-Auto, French magazine), the 2nd round took place at Misano, not Imola.
There was a (non-championship) race at Imola (in the F1 weekend), which was won by Alex Caffi

20/04/1986 , MISANO, MARCO APICELLA, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386
NC : IMOLA, ALEX CAFFI, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 386

There was also a non-championship round at Monza on 06/09/1986, won by Stefano Modena in a REYNARD Alfa Romeo 863

I can confirm the first statement (the Imola NC round was Apr 27), and thank you for the Italian GP support winner - still looking for complete results, though!

[fines]

While I'm at it...

1984
Mar 25, Vallelunga?, WALTER VOULAZ, Automotor Racing RALT Volkswagen RT 3
Apr 8, MUGELLO, FRANCO FORINI, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 384
Apr 23, MISANO, Alessandro Santin, Coloni, Ralt/Alfa Romeo
May 13, MUGELLO, Alessandro Santin, Coloni, Ralt/Alfa Romeo
May 27, Monza, Alex Caffi, Coloni, Ralt/Alfa Romeo RT3
Jun 10, MAGIONE, Franco Scapini, Automotor, Ralt/Volkswagen
Jun 17, Varano, Franco Scapini, Automotor, Ralt/Volkswagen
(*)Jul 8, Pergusa, Alessandro Santin, Coloni, Ralt/Alfa Romeo(*)
Sep 2, Monza, Fabrizio Barbazza, Venturini, Dallara/Alfa Romeo
Sep 16, VARANO, ALEX CAFFI, Team Coloni RALT Alfa Romeo RT 3
Sep 30, VALLELUNGA, ALESSANDRO SANTIN, Team Coloni RALT Alfa Romeo RT 3
Oct 7, Varano, Marco Apicella, Coloni, Ralt/Alfa Romeo
Oct 14, IMOLA, FRANCO FORINI, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 384
Oct 28, Misano, not VALLELUNGA, GIANFRANCO TACCHINO, Automotor Racing RALT Volkswagen RT 3

(*) questionable!

[fines]

1985
Mar 31, VALLELUNGA, FABRIZIO BARBAZZA, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 385
Apr 7, MISANO, MARCO APICELLA, Coperchini Racing Ralt/Alfa Romeo, not REYNARD Alfa Romeo 853
Apr 28, VARANO, LUIS PEREZ SALA, Team Pavesi RALT Alfa Romeo RT 3
May 12, MUGELLO, FRANCO FORINI, Forti Corse DALLARA Volkswagen 385
Jun 2, MONZA, FABRIZIO BARBAZZA, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 385
May 26, MAGIONE, FABRIZIO BARBAZZA, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 385
Jun 9?, IMOLA, FRANCO FORINI, Forti Corse DALLARA Volkswagen 385
Jun 30, MONZA, FRANCO FORINI, Forti Corse DALLARA Volkswagen 385
Jul 14, PERGUSA, ALEX CAFFI, Coloni Racing Martini/Alfa Romeo MK45, not DALLARA Alfa Romeo 385
Jul 28, MUGELLO, FRANCO FORINI, Forti Corse DALLARA Volkswagen 385
Sep 1, Monza, FABRIZIO BARBAZZA, Venturini Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 385
Aug 10, MISANO, MARCO APICELLA, Coperchini Racing REYNARD Alfa Romeo 853
Sep 22, Imola, FRANCO FORINI, Forti Corse DALLARA Volkswagen 385
Sep 29, VALLELUNGA, ALEX CAFFI, Coloni Racing DALLARA Alfa Romeo 385
Oct 16, Varano, Marco Apicella, Coperchini, Reynard/Alfa Romeo

Notabene different order of events!

[fines]

Originally posted by Gert
(*) For the Varano race I have found the following result:
07/06/1987 , VARANO, MASSIMO MONTI, Team Farnoti, RALT Volkswagen RT31
second place ENRICO BERTAGGIA, Forti Corse DALLARA Alfa Romeo 387

I don't know if it's the same race and if perhaps Monti was disqualified afterwards?

Monti started the season in England, as team mate to Damon Hill, but results wouldn't come and he returned to Italy just prior to the Varano race, substituting Scapini in the Automotor team. A good decision, since he took pole and won the race! He also won at Pergusa on July 5, but since he still ran on a British licence he was inelligible for Italian Championship points, and it were Barbazza and Visco, respectively, who scored full points.

[sat]

6.9.1986
57. GP d'Italia, 2. Trofeo Monza
AC di Milano
Started 27

1. 9 Reynard 863-Alfa Romeo Stefano Modena Euroteam 21 0:29:04,260 187,044 km/h
2. Dallara F386-Alfa Romeo Nicola Larini 21 0:00:00,170
3. 1 Dallara F386-Alfa Romeo Marco Apicella Coloni Racing 21 0:00:01,290
4. 28 Dallara F386-Alfa Romeo Eugenio Visco 21 0:00:14,890
5. Dallara F386-Alfa Romeo Jean Alesi 21 0:00:15,400
6. Martini Mk42-Alfa Romeo Rinaldo Capello Astofer Corse 21 0:00:19,500
7. Dallara F386-VW Andrea Chiesa Trivellato Racing 21 0:00:20,160
8. Dallara F386-VW Giovanna Amati 21 0:00:21,130
9. Dallara F385-VW Michele Minutolo 21 0:00:40,150
10. Dallara F386-Alfa Romeo Luca Maggiorelli 21 0:00:43,790
11. Dallara F385-Alfa Romeo Cesare Carabelli 21 0:00:44,270
12. Ralt RT30/85-VW Franz Binder 21 0:00:57,670
13. Martini Mk49-VW Lido Gastone Andreella 21 0:01:07,260
14. Ralt RT30/85-VW Vito Boffa Ravarotto 21 0:01:24,420
15. Dallara F385-Alfa Romeo Roberto Prodan 21 0:01:37,790
16. Ralt RT30/86-Alfa Romeo Fabrizio Rossi 21 0:01:42,760
17. Dallara F385-Alfa Romeo Walter Voulaz 19
18. Martini Mk45-Alfa Romeo Renato Lanzetti 19
19. Dallara F386-VW Franco Forini CH 17

DNF
Dallara F386-Alfa Romeo Enrico Bertaggia I 3
Dallara F386-Alfa Romeo Fabio Mancini I
Dallara F386-Alfa Romeo Antonio Tamburini I
Dallara F386-VW Giovanni Lavaggi I
Martini Mk49-Alfa Romeo Eric Bellefroid F 0
Reynard 863-Alfa Romeo "Gimax jr." I 9
Arno 03/385-Alfa Romeo Nino Famà I
Reynard 863-Alfa Romeo Ernesto Catella I 0
DNQ - Dallara F386-Alfa Romeo Paolo Barilla I Venturini Corse
DNP - Ralt RT3-Alfa Romeo Massa I
FL N. Larini 01:50,55 in lap 18 188,87 km/h

[sat]

Re 1984

2.9.1984 6. Premio Monza F.3 - non championship
7.10.1984 4. Trofeo Banca del Monte di Parma, Coppa Concessionaria Cabauto, Trofeo Riccardo Paletti - also

Santin Ralt Misano, Mugello - RT3E/83 Pergusa RT3/84

Re 1985

The winners of the last two championship rounds in 18th and 20th position - what's the story?

Apicella spun off
Modena engine

Luis Perez Sala RT30
Imola 15.6.1985

in Varano Apicella in Dallara F385-Alfa Romeo ex E. Visco
Apicella's Reynard raced by G. Tacchino to 6th place

[fines]

Great!

[fines]

Originally posted by sat
6. Martini Mk42-Alfa Romeo Rinaldo Capello Astofer Corse 21 0:00:19,500

Something that sticks out immediately: not only was Capello a regular frontrunner in a Ravarotto Ralt/Alfa before and after this race, so it's difficult to see him change to a backmarker outfit, let alone driving the oldest car in the field! Astofer also had a new Reynard and a couple of MK45 Martinis to chose from!

[fines]

Originally posted by sat
in Varano Apicella in Dallara F385-Alfa Romeo ex E. Visco
Apicella's Reynard raced by G. Tacchino to 6th place

Do you have more on these races? For 1984 and '85 I have only the winners, except for one or two races. I'd be delighted to have the top 6, or even 10 finishers!

[Rapid Rupert]

Hello Fines

Did you manage to get the top ten for the Italian F3 series for 1984 and 1985?

I might be able to assist if you're still on the look out as I have a lot of unsorted data from this era, but do not have a points table to authenticate the information.

If someone has access to an official final points table, please let me know.

I do recall in the 1980's some races doubled up as rounds of the European F3 championship and a country's national championship (not sure about 84 & 85 though), so results may not have been reflective of points scored for a national title.

Sorry it's taken so long to respond, but I have been a dormant TNF'er for a long time and am only now coming out of hibernation!

Lets see what's out there....

[Ralliart]

I think Jacques Villeneuve raced in Italian F3. Haven't seen his name listed so maybe I'm mistaken.

[fines]

Originally posted by Ralliart
I think Jacques Villeneuve raced in Italian F3. Haven't seen his name listed so maybe I'm mistaken.

No, you're not - he did three seasons of Italian F3, but wasn't very successfully... no, scratch that, he wasn't successful, period (first year he often failed to qualify, the other years he managed one second place finish each, not much else).

Rupert, I'm still interested, but am heavily involved in a very different project right now, and for some time to come! Go ahead, post what you've got - I will see what I can find re points tables.

[sat]

Do you have more on these races? For 1984 and '85

I have results from Autosprint

[brooster51]

Originally posted by HistoryFan
I searches the championship table of the 1976 Formula Three championship, with the points, teams, cars (with engines). Champion was Riccardo Patrese with a March Toyota from Trivellato Racing. But then?

I hope someone can help me!

I think Patrese was in a Chevron B34. The year (77) after was Elio de Angeles (sp I'm sure) with both a Chevron B38 and Ralt RT1.

JV did race in Italian F3 but don't remember which year. It was before he went to the States. I don't think he figured much.

[Rapid Rupert]

Hi Michael,

When you have some free time, have a look at the email I sent you.

Best wishes.

[fines]

Sorry Rupert for not answering, but don't worry, just post what you've got. This is INFORMATION, DATA... there's no such thing as copyright if you just post results here! If there was, I'd be long gone on a governmental vacation for years by now!

[Steffe Ornerdal]

Any information/results about Italian F3 1977?

[Bob Amblard]

Hy,
Does someone have pictures of Franco Forini on board an Italina formula 3 ???
Thank U.

[Rapid Rupert]

Sorry for not posting results on the Italian F3 championship from 84 or 85 yet. Been rather busy on projects of my own and others. The results WILL be posted soon.

Sorry Stefan, I can't help you with 1977 Italian series.

Regards.

[ghinzani]

Items of interest to see for me would be 1980 and 81 Dallaras. Also does anyone have any pictures or info on the March 803 or 813's that Art Merzario ran in 1981 with Alfa power? F2 driver Pierro Nechi qualified one at Monaco that year but I think a pair of March's generally ran in Italy.

Also can anyone enlighten me on the 'Monza Playboy' - Cannazi or something similar who made occasional but rapid Italian F3 outings in the late 70s and early 80s, generally at the Lotteria.

[ghinzani]

Fernando Cazzaniga was who I was thinking of. Also known as The Monza Playboy.