Is active suspension still being used in F1?
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Majarvis
, Jun 12 2003 20:55
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Majarvis
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Posted 12 June 2003 - 20:55
I know it's banned, but are the teams still using it one way or another, by cheating?
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mplach
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Posted 12 June 2003 - 21:56
.... i'd love to know how they would :
slightly off topic. i remember a couple years back when prost was supposidly developing a form of mechanical active suspension that would be legal as it wasnt controled by an onboard computer... what happened to that idea. most likely it was **** and wouldnt work well enough but it had to be a good idea in theory.
slightly off topic. i remember a couple years back when prost was supposidly developing a form of mechanical active suspension that would be legal as it wasnt controled by an onboard computer... what happened to that idea. most likely it was **** and wouldnt work well enough but it had to be a good idea in theory.
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Posted 12 June 2003 - 23:46
Wouldn't any form of active or semi-active suspension in the 'classical' sense as opposed to merely active damping or ARB control necessitate the presence of obvious pumps, and actuators? Damned hard to hide that sort of thing I'd imagine. One might be able to get away with electrorheological adaptive dampers I guess.
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Posted 14 June 2003 - 14:28
could the michelin opt be classified as a 'mechanical active suspension'?
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Posted 14 June 2003 - 15:21
No.
Active suspension uses a powered system to change some aspect of the suspension dynamics from one condition to another, be it altering the damping, geometry or spring rates.
The Michelin OPT system only modifies the wheel path to ensure a more beneficial camber for traction purposes at the rear wheels. There is no variation between states, and the wheel may follow only one path. The damping and sping rates are adjustable when the car is static, and do not intentionally vary whilst the car is out of the pits.
Active suspension is not named in the regs, IIRC, but any system which adjusts the suspension of the car whilst it is motion - so driver adjustable ARB's are not possible.
Rumours (of good quality) circulate that teams use active systems in testing to alter ride heights and damper rates etc without having to return the car to the pits. This is time and cost-saving issue.
Alex
Active suspension uses a powered system to change some aspect of the suspension dynamics from one condition to another, be it altering the damping, geometry or spring rates.
The Michelin OPT system only modifies the wheel path to ensure a more beneficial camber for traction purposes at the rear wheels. There is no variation between states, and the wheel may follow only one path. The damping and sping rates are adjustable when the car is static, and do not intentionally vary whilst the car is out of the pits.
Active suspension is not named in the regs, IIRC, but any system which adjusts the suspension of the car whilst it is motion - so driver adjustable ARB's are not possible.
Rumours (of good quality) circulate that teams use active systems in testing to alter ride heights and damper rates etc without having to return the car to the pits. This is time and cost-saving issue.
Alex
