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#1 David Beard

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Posted 28 June 2003 - 09:28

I bought some marvelous photos from Ted Walker at Ferret Fotographics last week, taken in 1958 and showing a Lotus on the pavement in front of what I assume is Colin Chapman's father's Railway Hotel in Hornsey. This left me wondering if it is still there, perhaps under another name. Any TNFers know the locality?

I think the Lotus showroom was alongside the pub by that time...I was surprised really that the photo wasn't taken in front of that.

Is the showroom still there too?...I seem to recall seeing a photo somewhere of the place being used as a carpet showroom, or similar.

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#2 Eric McLoughlin

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Posted 28 June 2003 - 10:00

Looking at some old Lotus Seven advertising, the official address was:

7 Tottenham Lane
Hornsey
London
N8
Tel: FITZroy 1777 (notice all the "7"s, probably a special number linked to their mainstay at the time, the Lotus 7).

Other ads show the 'phone no. as MOUntview 8353

I'm not sure about the continued existence of the Hornsey factory and showroom but I think the later Cheshunt site is still in use.

#3 WGD706

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Posted 28 June 2003 - 13:47

David
BLARNEY STONE
472 Hornsey Road, N19 4EF
Currently 'The Blarney Stone', after being in rapid succession,'Salt Bar' and 'All Points West'. Formerly Railway Hotel

#4 David Beard

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Posted 28 June 2003 - 13:51

Originally posted by WGD706
David
BLARNEY STONE
472 Hornsey Road, N19 4EF
Currently 'The Blarney Stone', after being in rapid succession,'Salt Bar' and 'All Points West'. Formerly Railway Hotel


Yes, I found that too.
I was confused about the relationship between 472 Hornsey road and 7 Tottenham Lane.

#5 David McKinney

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Posted 28 June 2003 - 15:38

Originally posted by WGD706
David
BLARNEY STONE
472 Hornsey Road, N19 4EF
Currently 'The Blarney Stone', after being in rapid succession,'Salt Bar' and 'All Points West'. Formerly Railway Hotel

Different Railway Hotel - a couple of miles from Lotus
I don't know if this is any help
http://www.multimap....40&gridn=187083
Tottenham Lane is the curving one next to - you guessed it - the railway line

#6 David Beard

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Posted 28 June 2003 - 20:10

From the website of the Hornsey Historical Society (They seem to have missed something ): )



"Famous people who have lived or worked in our area:


John Logie Baird, pioneer of television
Gordon "Sting" Sumner, singer
Bob Hoskins, actor
Charles Dickens, novelist
Arnold Bennett, novelist
Clive Barker, horror novelist (all preceding three locate fictional scenes in Hornsey)
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, poet and philosopher, with Wordsworth revolutionized English poetry
Peter Sellers, actor and comedian, Goon
Juliet Stephenson, truly madly deeply wonderful actor
Thomas Moore, Irish poet and song-writer, friend of Byron
Bob Dylan, American poet and song-writer, Crouch End curry fan
Samantha Fox, singer and model, worked at Crouch End greengrocers
Jonathan Pryce, actor
W. Heath Robinson, cartoonist
The Man Behaving Badly who is not Martin Clunes
Jean Simmons, actor
Angela Burdett-Coutts, Victorian charity campaigner
Bernie Grant, politician
Ardal O'Hanlon, actor and comedian
Mr Justice Blackburne, High Court judge, former Haringey councillor
Adrian Dunbar, actor
Arthur C Clarke, sf author, co-writer with Stanley Kubrick, 2001: A Space Odyssey
AE Housman, poet
Barbara Roche, politician
X-Files's Dana Scully
Sir Hugh Myddleton, his river runs through us
Lord Mansfield, judge, his decision ended contractual validity of slavery in England
Michael Faraday, scientist
Spike Milligan, comedian and novelist, Goon
Charles Babbage, computer pioneer
Luke Howard, weather scientist
W. Henley, poet (Invictus) and editor, original of Long John Silver
Yehudi Menuhin, musician
A.J.Jaeger, music critic, Edward Elgar's Nimrod
William Butterfield, architect
Andrew Marvell, poet
Annie Lennox, singer
John Betjeman, poet and conservationist
W. Forster, anti-slavery Quaker politician, brought in universal education Act"

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Posted 28 June 2003 - 22:03

Eric McLoughlin

I'm not sure about the continued existence of the Hornsey factory and showroom but I think the later Cheshunt site is still in use.


But not by Lotus. When I was running an Elan S2 in 1972 or so, I wrote a question and sent it there, to an address taken from the service manual. After a month it was returned to me with the hand-written note: "GONE AWAY".


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#8 Eric McLoughlin

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Posted 29 June 2003 - 07:49

Lotus moved out in 1966 to their present base at Hethel in Norfolk.

#9 David McKinney

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Posted 29 June 2003 - 17:38

Someone had to do it
Just checked out the site. The present Wishing Well pub is obviously what used to be the Railway Hotel. The old showroom building is now bricked over and is a Jewson’s, but has a plaque (placed by Club Lotus) identifying it as the birthplace of Lotus

#10 David Beard

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Posted 29 June 2003 - 18:24

Originally posted by David McKinney
Someone had to do it
Just checked out the site. The present Wishing Well pub is obviously what used to be the Railway Hotel. The old showroom building is now bricked over and is a Jewson’s, but has a plaque (placed by Club Lotus) identifying it as the birthplace of Lotus


Brilliant David, thanks :clap:

I take it you took some snaps?

#11 David McKinney

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Posted 29 June 2003 - 18:31

Sorry, no. Due principally to the fact that I don't have a camera at the moment...
(Memo to self: get a camera, then a scanner...)

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Posted 29 June 2003 - 19:35

Originally posted by David McKinney
Sorry, no. Due principally to the fact that I don't have a camera at the moment...
(Memo to self: get a camera, then a scanner...)


......or try one of the new fangled digital cameras and forget about the scanner! :clap: :clap:

#13 David McKinney

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Posted 29 June 2003 - 19:58

That is one of the options I'm investigating, Ruairidh
Not sure about the quality of scanned images from books this way though. And what about negatives?

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Posted 30 June 2003 - 01:01

And some webspace, David?

So you can post some of those pictures you'll be scanning...

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Posted 30 June 2003 - 05:17

Originally posted by David McKinney
That is one of the options I'm investigating, Ruairidh
Not sure about the quality of scanned images from books this way though. And what about negatives?


Well, while this is off topic, I have to say that since I bought a pair of digital cameras last year (a semi-pro Minolta and a pocketable cigarettebox sized Canon, which I carry everywhere) I haven't touched any of my considerable collection of 35mm cameras. No negatives it is true, but get a decent printer and bob truly is your digital uncle.

It is also true that they won't be the tool for scanning images from books though....and I did enjoy that scanned image from a wet December day in the early '60s posted above.

Good Luck

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Posted 01 July 2003 - 06:40

:confused:

David McKinney
. The old showroom building is now bricked over and is a Jewson’s, ----------- I give up ????

WHAT is a Jewson,s????

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Posted 01 July 2003 - 08:49

Originally posted by eldougo
:confused:

David McKinney
. The old showroom building is now bricked over and is a Jewson’s, ----------- I give up ????

WHAT is a Jewson,s????



They are a nationwide chain store of Builder's merchants and DIY requisites............strangely their corporate colours are green & yellow............ Jewson being the founders name

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Posted 01 July 2003 - 08:52

Originally posted by Ruairidh


Well, while this is off topic, I have to say that since I bought a pair of digital cameras last year (a semi-pro Minolta and a pocketable cigarettebox sized Canon, which I carry everywhere) I haven't touched any of my considerable collection of 35mm cameras. No negatives it is true, but get a decent printer and bob truly is your digital uncle.

It is also true that they won't be the tool for scanning images from books though....and I did enjoy that scanned image from a wet December day in the early '60s posted above.

Good Luck


Any advice on make & model & price of a really good colour printer ?

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Posted 01 July 2003 - 11:35

Originally posted by RTH



They are a nationwide chain store of Builder's merchants and DIY requisites............strangely their corporate colours are green & yellow............ Jewson being the founders name



...and used to sponsor David Brabham in F3, IIRC. (or do I mean Gary?) - one or t'other.

pete

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#20 David Beard

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 01:21

Originally posted by RTH



They are a nationwide chain store of Builder's merchants and DIY requisites............strangely their corporate colours are green & yellow............ Jewson being the founders name



Click....Jewson
They only sell things called "Heavyside" at this branch, whatever that means. Doesn't sound very Lotus.

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 01:53

Originally posted by RTH


Any advice on make & model & price of a really good colour printer ?


Personally I've had very good experiences with a Canon S900. It was about $300 or so when I bought it a year ago, probably cheaper now. I've used the following website for good reviews and to help me choose in the past http://www.steves-di...m/printers.html . I have no affiliation with either Canon or Steve- just a happy customer/user.

#22 RTH

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 05:10

Many Thanks, Ruairidh, I will have a look.

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 06:11

:D

Thanks Richard---- Pete--- David . for solving that mistery for me,At least they have keep the
Lotus colours flying. :up:

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 06:42

I think you can see that Jewsons from the train on the main line out of Kings Cross. I must have passed it many times without realising its significance!

#25 David McKinney

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 10:15

You might see the site, Rob, but I'd be surprised if the actual ex-Lotus showroom is visible from the train - the railway is 100yds or so away, and down an embankment. It's more or less at the same place as the Hornsey BR station - does that line go to King's Cross?

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 13:18

Originally posted by David McKinney
You might see the site, Rob, but I'd be surprised if the actual ex-Lotus showroom is visible from the train - the railway is 100yds or so away, and down an embankment. It's more or less at the same place as the Hornsey BR station - does that line go to King's Cross?

Yes,David,Hornsey is on the main line but only the local trains stop there. 1962-65 my comuter journey usually called there.